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I find it hard to believe that they're going to let arguably their most popular player go.
Malik was pretty popular and he was let go so the same could happen with Manu. I think the part of Manu saying that when the time comes during FA he's going to let his wife decide what's best for him and his career choice and the twins will have no affect on whether he stays or not is pretty interesting.
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Originally Posted by
ducks
you follow the spurs?
spurs tried to sign him before he went to play for his country
did not get down
spurs said stay here it will get done
HE SAID HELL NO
they said they would not extend him them
he said FUCK YES
That isn't not wanting to get resign, that's prioritizing playing with the NT over getting resigned which is not the same. If the Spurs wouldn't have put that clause Manu would have resigned.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
Just because you think that way it doesn't make it true, when a player has given so much to an organisation he earns some special rights and those rights can't be taken away no matter how bad you are playing. Manu has earned the right to say what he thinks to Pop or to the FO, whether those demands are justified or not that's another story (like I said, I don't think the FO should resign him now)
I could say the same to you. That right is reserved for a special few and that's all-time greats (Duncan). Playing for the umpteenth time for your country and in the process making that more important than your employer (and it looks like it'll cost him future earnings) and then proceeding to play like shit for the better part of two years will do that.
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[QUOTE = Pistons <Spurs; 4006925] Man, I can not even begin to imagine Manu playing for a team other than San Antonio. I love what Allows for free agency in sports, but sometimes Certain players should just simply not be allowed to leave the team they'll always be identified with. [/ QUOTE]
Me either. I don't even want to think about it....
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Originally Posted by
TD 21
I could say the same to you. That right is reserved for a special few and that's all-time greats (Duncan). Playing for the umpteenth time for your country and in the process making that more important than your employer (and it looks like it'll cost him future earnings) and then proceeding to play like shit for the better part of two years will do that.
Those rights are given to the players that spend a long portion of their careers with the same team and during that time write an important chapter of that organisation's history, not only sport wise but in the social aspect also. Players like Tim, Tony, Manu (Bowen if he would still be playing) have earned that right.
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Manu no, i like how people just casually put him and duncan in the same sentence
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I thought Ginobili accepted and understood the fact SA wasn't in a rush for a contract extension, seeing as how he's been injured the past two seasons.
I am surprised to hear he was disappointed with the FO. I would be devastated if he left the Spurs, but I also understand why they aren't in a rush to resign him until after the playoffs to see how he holds up.
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Originally Posted by
Amuseddaysleeper
I thought Ginobili accepted and understood the fact SA wasn't in a rush for a contract extension, seeing as how he's been injured the past two seasons.
I am surprised to hear he was disappointed with the FO. I would be devastated if he left the Spurs, but I also understand why they aren't in a rush to resign him until after the playoffs to see how he holds up.
I might have lost it but I didn't read anywhere that he was dissapointed with the FO, in fact he said that he realizes that he will be a free agent and he is OK with that.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
In 2005 he was making less money than Malik Rose, when he resigned he did it for a lot less money than he could have had. He never complained about coming off the bench. I say he earned the right to express his mind whenever he feels like it.
And now he has been grossly overpaid going on three seasons. You can't in any way justify $10.7M for what he's giving the team this year, unless you want to point to Jefferson and say he sucks too and is also overpaid. How much less money did he take, anyways? No one offered him a contract because he was a restricted free agent and the Spurs had money under the cap to match anything. I can't stand hearing this revisionist history that completely ignores the bargaining position Manu was in when he re-signed.
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Originally Posted by
mookie2001
Manu no, i like how people just casually put him and duncan in the same sentence
I like how you just casually omit Tony and Bowen's names.
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
And now he has been grossly overpaid going on three seasons. You can't in any way justify $10.7M for what he's giving the team this year, unless you want to point to Jefferson and say he sucks too and is also overpaid. How much less money did he take, anyways? No one offered him a contract because he was a restricted free agent and the Spurs had money under the cap to match anything. I can't stand hearing this revisionist history that completely ignores the bargaining position Manu was in when he re-signed.
In 2008 the Spurs wouldn't have gotten where they got without Manu, besides Manu is arguably the most popular player of this team, he makes a lot of money for the organisation even when he's not playing well.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
In 2008 the Spurs wouldn't have gotten where they got without Manu, besides Manu is arguably the most popular player of this team, he makes a lot of money for the organisation even when he's not playing well.
And Eddie Nealy was once the most popular Spurs player too.
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In 2008 the Spurs wouldn't have gotten where they got without Manu, besides Manu is arguably the most popular player of this team, he makes a lot of money for the organisation even when he's not playing well
ROFL ohh come on
i dont know where to start
what happened in 2008? let me google it
wrong and bullshit
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baseline bum
And Eddie Nealy was once the most popular Spurs player too.
And I bet he wasn't overpaid like Manu isn't overpaid.
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players like olajuwon, david robinson, shaq, scola
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As for 2008, the Spurs weren't that far from beating LA, considering they had big leads in games 1 and 5, and came a bad call from forcing OT in game 4. Manu carried the team in game 3, but was awful the rest of the time. The opportunity cost of his contract may very well have cost them that WCF. I'm not trying to trash Manu because I have been a huge fan of his since the Kinder Bologna days, but if his body can't survive NBA seasons then he's clearly not worth what the team is paying him.
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Originally Posted by
mookie2001
ROFL ohh come on
i dont know where to start
what happened in 2008? let me google it
wrong and bullshit
Let me remind you: Manu had the best statistically season of his NBA career, carried the team during a long part of the season when other players were hurt and lead the team in pts and assts in the last playoffs series we won that year, like I said we wouldn't have made it that far without him.
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DAF86
And I bet he wasn't overpaid like Manu isn't overpaid.
Nealy was a complete scrub. Fan loyalty and quality of play don't always correlate strongly. Dwayne Schintzius used to get huge ovations when he'd come into games, and he was a horrible player and an even worse person with a chequered past.
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thats really nice, email the FO on how manu has earned a lifetime max contract because we lost to the lakers in the playoffs
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baseline bum
As for 2008, the Spurs weren't that far from beating LA, considering they had big leads in games 1 and 5, and came a bad call from forcing OT in game 4. Manu carried the team in game 3, but was awful the rest of the time. The opportunity cost of his contract may very well have cost them that WCF. I'm not trying to trash Manu because I have been a huge fan of his since the Kinder Bologna days, but if his body can't survive NBA seasons then he's clearly not worth what the team is paying him.
The combination of Manu's play and the money he makes for the Spurs organisation with his mere presence on the team justify his salary.
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Originally Posted by
mookie2001
thats really nice, email the FO on how manu has earned a lifetime max contract because we lost to the lakers in the playoffs
If you want to argue, do it fairly. Don't make shit up just to help your case. I was just arguing the conception that Manu was overpaid in 2008, nothing more than that.
P/S: Did you miss the part where I said that the FO shouldn't resign Manu right now?
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
The combination of Manu's play and the money he makes for the Spurs organisation with his mere presence on the team justify his salary.
That's a lot of popularity to offset $10.7M on 40% shooting.
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
That's a lot of popularity to offset $10.7M on 40% shooting.
Trade Manu now and see the Spurs ticket sales drop considerably, and that is just one example.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
Trade Manu now and see the Spurs ticket sales drop considerably, and that is just one example.
The Spurs have sold about 97% of their tickets every year in the Duncan era. Despite Manu's popularity (which is great), I don't think he's affected ticket sales that much. He's made fans more excited, definitely -- but it hasn't been as big of a financial impact in that regard as you might imagine.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
Trade Manu now and see the Spurs ticket sales drop considerably, and that is just one example.
Not if they get someone who is better able to help the team compete for a title.