sons say what you want, but the Spurs ONLY won because of the refs

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Originally Posted by BOHOLANO#21

sorry son, the refs forgot that crybaby paul is licensed to just run over anybody and get a call in his favor...:hat

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The funny thing is, that last charge wasn't even a pushoff. I know Spurs fans like to say that Paul extends his arm when going to the rack, but he didn't even do it that time.

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Originally Posted by BRHornet45

sons that was one of the most poorly called games that I have ever seen. The lopsided calls in favor of the Spurs was downright embarrassing and pathetic. seriously with it being MLK day, do the Spurs have more blacks on their team than N.O.? I am just trying to understand the blatant favoritism today. Now a win is a win so props to you guys for taking advantage of the favoritism from the refs, but damn ... don't just take my word for it. Take your homer glasses off and go look at the stats ...

The Spurs had 26 more free throws than the Hornets ... 26!!!!!!! (Spurs 38, Hornets 12)

now sons you can say all you want to try and justify it, but no excuse is legit. there is absolutely NO reason for the free throw numbers to be that lopsided. maybe one team having 10 more or something REASONABLE like that, but 26?? really??? .... I'm just proud that the Hornets were actually able to make a game of it and only lose by 7 points. unbelievable.

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:rolleyes

Did you really watch the first three quarters of the game? Not a single Hornets player got into the paint consistently. Meanwhile, Parker was anally violating you at will on the other end.

I'll give you the fact that Okafor got 2 ticky tack fouls called on him in the penalty. But that only explains 4 FT.

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Originally Posted by redzero

The funny thing is, that last charge wasn't even a pushoff. I know Spurs fans like to say that Paul extends his arm when going to the rack, but he didn't even do it that time.

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You're right. All he did was lower his shoulder into Hill. That should never be called in that situation. :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by redzero

The funny thing is, that last charge wasn't even a pushoff. I know Spurs fans like to say that Paul extends his arm when going to the rack, but he didn't even do it that time.

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I agree redzero, Hill was moving his feet furiously when the contact occured and Paul didn't even lower his shoulder or extend a forearm into Hill's body. It was less benign than Kobes' out of control twirling spin that plowed over Bogut a few weeks ago.

It was a judgement call that in alot of cases will be awarded to the offensive player, and in superstar cases will be awarded almost every time. Last time I checked Paul is still a superstar player in the league.

I don't think its any coincidence in the 4th quarter when the hornets started playing hard the refs suddenly turned. They had been fairly generous up to that point trying to keep you guys in the game despite the FT disparity. I really think they gave up and basically said "screw y'all we're not helping anymore".

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Originally Posted by TJastal

I agree redzero, Hill was moving his feet furiously when the contact occured and Paul didn't even lower his shoulder or extend a forearm into Hill's body. It was less benign than Kobes' out of control twirling spin that plowed over Bogut a few weeks ago.

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I know a great opthamologist.

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Originally Posted by Agloco

I know a great opthamologist.

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You mean, opthalmologist?

I know some english teachers that provide after hours tutoring..

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Originally Posted by TJastal

You mean, opthalmologist?

I know some english teachers that provide after hours tutoring..

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Or you could simply put me in touch with a skilled typist. :rolleyes

Way to duck the issue. I'll make sure to have you proof read my posts from now on.

BRHornet, once you start blaming the refs for your teams losses thats when you know your team SUCKS!

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Originally Posted by Agloco

Or you could simply put me in touch with a skilled typist. :rolleyes

Way to duck the issue. I'll make sure to have you proof read my posts from now on.

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son who is that ass in your sig?

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Originally Posted by BRHornet45

son who is that ass in your sig?

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I believe it's Jamie Eason

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Originally Posted by Ryvin1

I believe it's Jamie Eason

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it looks like Jaime Koeppe is why I ask

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Originally Posted by TJastal

I agree redzero, Hill was moving his feet furiously when the contact occured and Paul didn't even lower his shoulder or extend a forearm into Hill's body.

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It's a myth that you have to have your feet planted to draw a charge. Moving your feet is not an issue. It is the direction you are moving that is an issue. If you are backing up, or just moving your feet but not moving in any direction, that's fine.

Paul absolutely did lower a shoulder into Hill. You are in active denial of reality. It wasn't blatant but it was there.

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It was a judgement call that in a lot of cases will be awarded to the offensive player, and in superstar cases will be awarded almost every time. Last time I checked Paul is still a superstar player in the league.

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It's not that cut and dried. The refs don't like to be used, even by superstars. When a superstar just deliberately runs into the defender and expects the refs to call a foul, without really trying to score, many refs don't look kindly upon that. And in this case, Hill put great hustle on the play and got cleanly in front of Paul before Paul launched himself into him and then looked for the foul call. The refs like hustle.

Bottom line is I think Paul didn't expect Hill to get there that quickly, and figured he could get an easy foul on Hill as Hill tried to get in position.

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It was less benign than Kobes' out of control twirling spin that plowed over Bogut a few weeks ago.

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Actually, that WAS a foul on Bogut. He was not in position to take the charge, he was still sliding over. Plus, Kobe was actually attempting a shot (and it even went in if I recall correctly), unlike Paul who was just trying to draw the foul.

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Originally Posted by BRHornet45

sons that was one of the most poorly called games that I have ever seen. The lopsided calls in favor of the Spurs was downright embarrassing and pathetic. seriously with it being MLK day, do the Spurs have more blacks on their team than N.O.? I am just trying to understand the blatant favoritism today. Now a win is a win so props to you guys for taking advantage of the favoritism from the refs, but damn ... don't just take my word for it. Take your homer glasses off and go look at the stats ...

The Spurs had 26 more free throws than the Hornets ... 26!!!!!!! (Spurs 38, Hornets 12)

now sons you can say all you want to try and justify it, but no excuse is legit. there is absolutely NO reason for the free throw numbers to be that lopsided. maybe one team having 10 more or something REASONABLE like that, but 26?? really??? .... I'm just proud that the Hornets were actually able to make a game of it and only lose by 7 points. unbelievable.

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Well in case you werent aware of this, the team that is more agressive typically gets more calls.. So maybe you might want to blame the Hornets for that instead of the refs...

But remember denial is the 1st step (Hornets SUCK)
2nd step(repeat the 1st step)
3rd step(yap you guessed it, Hornets SUCK)

Ref's dont lose games for teams, players lose games for thier teams.

Downtown Devin Brown doesn't need free throws.

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Originally Posted by BRHornet45

bullshit

son you can't honestly believe that ... 38 free throws compared to 12. no excuse for that at all. blatant favoritism from the refs.

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You lost the charm and humor when you cussed. You had a funny, cute thing going. Next time stick to the "son" and leave it around that. Whatever you do, don't go to the "f" word.

The Hornets definitely should not have fouled so much. Also, I'm surprised Posey wasn't thrown for that trip shot he threw at Duncan which could've caused a serious injury.

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Originally Posted by YoMamaIsCallin

It's a myth that you have to have your feet planted to draw a charge. Moving your feet is not an issue. It is the direction you are moving that is an issue. If you are backing up, or just moving your feet but not moving in any direction, that's fine..

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Ahh, the ol' treadmill effect, huh?

Paul absolutely did lower a shoulder into Hill. You are in active denial of reality. It wasn't blatant but it was there.

It was so subtle the camera didn't even see it, right.

It's not that cut and dried. The refs don't like to be used, even by superstars. When a superstar just deliberately runs into the defender and expects the refs to call a foul, without really trying to score, many refs don't look kindly upon that. And in this case, Hill put great hustle on the play and got cleanly in front of Paul before Paul launched himself into him and then looked for the foul call. The refs like hustle.

Boy, coulda fooled me. Lebron made a living at the line in last year's playoffs by simply launching himself into defensive players

Bottom line is I think Paul didn't expect Hill to get there that quickly, and figured he could get an easy foul on Hill as Hill tried to get in position.

Actually, that WAS a foul on Bogut. He was not in position to take the charge, he was still sliding over. Plus, Kobe was actually attempting a shot (and it even went in if I recall correctly), unlike Paul who was just trying to draw the foul.

Paul attempted a shot as well, doofus. And Kobe did almost a complete 360 spin, and in addition to travelling threw his shoulder into Bogut's mid section. Good lord your takes have bigger holes than the titanic.

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Originally Posted by redzero

The funny thing is, that last charge wasn't even a pushoff. I know Spurs fans like to say that Paul extends his arm when going to the rack, but he didn't even do it that time.

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You're right it wasn't a push-off, Paul just tried to run him over. Hill was with Paul step for step, and Paul initiated the contact, which is a charge.

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Originally Posted by TJastal

You mean, opthalmologist?

I know some english teachers that provide after hours tutoring..

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Really, maybe you should get to know them better.

It's spelled ophthalmologist.