injury report: Parker suffering knee and back issues

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Originally Posted by Bruno

It doesn't fit together. As I said before, I think a big part of the problem about TP is mental and not physical. Most of these injuries shouldn't be more important than the ones he consistently plays through during his NBA career. He is just now in whining mode while he kept minor injuries for himself before.

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Exactly. TP probably has mild/moderate PF and is physically and mentally tired. The combination has led to a slow start to the season.

While his whining is lame, it's also good news. It makes me pretty confident he'll be ready to go by the playoffs. We've seen him fight through injuries before and it looks like no injury he has should be season-altering.

He will be fine, he just needs to continue what he does now, he needs to adjust to his foot and keep working hard.

Maybe some rest when it is possible and maybe the fatigue has more effect on him at back to back games, but he'll be alright. He is doing good and will be there playoff time when we need him the most.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

One the one hand, Parker has a stiff back, trouble at a knee, tendinitis at an ankle, and edema at the other ankle, a plantar fascistic and is very tired.

On the other hand, Parker played his 5th game in 6 and a half day against NO and scored 25 points in 38 min.

It doesn't fit together. As I said before, I think a big part of the problem about TP is mental and not physical. Most of these injuries shouldn't be more important than the ones he consistently plays through during his NBA career. He is just now in whining mode while he kept minor injuries for himself before.

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could be also an explanation for the pop last quote "TP has good and bad days for whatever reason"

Fucking millionaires whining to the media. Whine to your wife, we don't want to hear it.

Regardless of the reasons for those pesky injuries, should Pop rest him like he rests Timmy? I believe he should.

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Originally Posted by Shifty

Regardless of the reasons for those pesky injuries, should Pop rest him like he rests Timmy? I believe he should.

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Pop not resting him even during this extremely tough stretch tells me Pop doesn't think TP is too injured. Pop must think it's mostly mental and fatigue.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Pop not resting him even during this extremely tough stretch tells me Pop doesn't think TP is too injured. Pop must think it's mostly mental and fatigue.

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Those things need rest too.

We'll see if Tony takes it easy during ASB or will he be flitting around with Eva, partying, and trolling the red carpets and clubs?

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Those things need rest too.

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I don't think Pop would ever let a player sit out for more than a game just for being tired.

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Originally Posted by timvp

I don't think Pop would ever let a player sit out for more than a game just for being tired.

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Tim is the exeption?

Or it's in 'menage minutes program'?


I think more then anything Pop is testing Tony's character and wants him to push himself in that kind of situation. Also I think that is a 'revange' for playing in the summer.

Rest TP for 1-2 games

Start Hill Billy

I think Parker is indirectly asking for some rest (through the media), but Pop isn't giving it to him.

Pop isn't exactly ingratiating himself to Parker these days. Right now the liklihood of TP re-signing with the Spurs is riding low.

I think Manu will re-sign this summer for 3yrs/27M or so, but I think Parker will not re-sign with us when his deal is up. We'll probably have to end up doing a sign-and-trade with Parker. That way he'll get paid, but he'll go to Miami or NY or LA where he'd rather be. Meaning wherever Pop is not.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

This is more fatigue than any type of real injury. Pop really needs to consider resting him some. Perhaps if they plan to rest Duncan on a back to back then Parker can rest the game before/after.

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Agreed. Fatigue seems to be the culprit here. And getting some rest would help but also the 2nd unit closing out games would also help, too. Blowing big leads like the one in NO and several others IIRC could help not only in giving TP some rest but also in getting the playing time many at the end of the bench want and need to develop.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Exactly. TP probably has mild/moderate PF and is physically and mentally tired. The combination has led to a slow start to the season.

While his whining is lame, it's also good news. It makes me pretty confident he'll be ready to go by the playoffs. We've seen him fight through injuries before and it looks like no injury he has should be season-altering.

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I agree that he should be ready come playoff time. He has enough time to get over this and has shown in the past the ability to fight through these types of situations as you pointed out. But a little rest here and there wouldn't hurt either.

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Originally Posted by Baseline

I think Parker is indirectly asking for some rest (through the media), but Pop isn't giving it to him.

Pop isn't exactly ingratiating himself to Parker these days. Right now the liklihood of TP re-signing with the Spurs is riding low.

I think Manu will re-sign this summer for 3yrs/27M or so, but I think Parker will not re-sign with us when his deal is up. We'll probably have to end up doing a sign-and-trade with Parker. That way he'll get paid, but he'll go to Miami or NY or LA where he'd rather be. Meaning wherever Pop is not.

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Maybe but then again maybe not. Ever since TP got here there seems to be a love/hate relationship between the two of them. Pop has continually gotten on TP and he has responded positively to that. Whether this relationship has soured a little remains to be seen from my viewpoint. In other words I think the jury is still out on this one. But if he leaves then your suggestion about a sign and trade would seem most likely. If he's going might as well get something in return.

I am so sick of this crap. It's nauseating. You get paid to play NBA ball. Stop whining. You're hurt because you didn't rest this summer. This will bite you and the team in the ass right when they need you the most. Where are your priorities?

Well, you'll have a lot of rest in April or May again to heal your broken body because if you're not healthy the Spurs aren't going anywhere. And, it doesn't seem like you are healthy enough to last the entire season plus play-offs.

Hope summer play was worth it. I'm pretty sure I can guess what the Spurs and Timmy think about your summer play.:rolleyes

"Parker said he's been dealing with lingering back and knee issues throughout much of the season and it times it stiffens up like it did Saturday in Memphis"

this thread is just funny. so a writter asks TP about his health, TP answers and the writter brings this simple sentence above.

A ST member wants to make a thread about it and it becomes a "TP is a whiner" thread. :lol

Tim has said dozens of times he had sore knees last year. Almost every game. Was he whining or was he just answering the same question again and again ? Same thing with KB finger, Nash back or Manu ankle last years.

TP, with his PF mainly, has health issues this year and reporters will probably ask him about his health again and again. No need to make a thread about it every time.

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

Hope summer play was worth it. I'm pretty sure I can guess what the Spurs and Timmy think about your summer play.:rolleyes

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i also know what Tim thinks about summer play. He should hate it because he simply always failed badly in international competitions and that will be a major hole, IMO, in his wonderful career.

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Originally Posted by kace

"Parker said he's been dealing with lingering back and knee issues throughout much of the season and it times it stiffens up like it did Saturday in Memphis"

this thread is just funny. so a writter asks TP about his health, TP answers and the writter brings this simple sentence above.

A ST member wants to make a thread about it and it becomes a "TP is a whiner" thread. :lol

Tim has said dozens of times he had sore knees last year. Almost every game. Was he whining or was he just answering the same question again and again ? Same thing with KB finger, Nash back or Manu ankle last years.

TP, with his PF mainly, has health issues this year and reporters will probably ask him about his health again and again. No need to make a thread about it every time.

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Yeah, exactly.

As I said , first some of you want players to not hold possible injuries for themselves because they are athletes, and then when they do not hold it for themselves but tell it, because others ask, you see it as whining and you want them to not whine, to suck it up and keep going. :bang

Everyone plays a little injured all the time - too many games at too high of a level. Plus the bigger a dude is, the more injury prone he becomes, and everyone (mostly) in the NBA is taller than average, most of them way taller.

I think he doesn't like the fact that people forget him when they're talking about the best PGs. Sure he's hurt but he's making excuse for his poor plays this year. Like other posters said, it's mainly mental.

I don't remember Manu blaming bad games on his injuries, at EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW :pctoss

nut up Tony!!!

Bobo

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Originally Posted by kace

i also know what Tim thinks about summer play. He should hate it because he simply always failed badly in international competitions and that will be a major hole, IMO, in his wonderful career.

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Ummm, no. Timmy only failed one Summer - 2004 - and the main reason for that was he and Iverson were the only 2 elite players at the time who did not back out from their commitment to Athens.

He dominated International Competition in 1999 and 2003. I believe he was the USA bball player of the year both times.

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Originally Posted by Gooshie

Ummm, no. Timmy only failed one Summer - 2004 - and the main reason for that was he and Iverson were the only 2 elite players at the time who did not back out from their commitment to Athens.

He dominated International Competition in 1999 and 2003. I believe he was the USA bball player of the year both times.

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Kidd

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Originally Posted by benefactor

This is more fatigue than any type of real injury. Pop really needs to consider resting him some. Perhaps if they plan to rest Duncan on a back to back then Parker can rest the game before/after.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

It doesn't fit together. As I said before, I think a big part of the problem about TP is mental and not physical. Most of these injuries shouldn't be more important than the ones he consistently plays through during his NBA career. He is just now in whining mode while he kept minor injuries for himself before.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Exactly. TP probably has mild/moderate PF and is physically and mentally tired. The combination has led to a slow start to the season.

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This is what I've been tending to believe, but I haven't been able to outright dismiss the PF because of how debilitating it could be for a player of Tony's ilk; his bouts of explosiveness and stop-and-go speed doesn't lead you to believe he's walking on steak knives (the sensation some have compared their PF to), though.

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Originally Posted by timvp

While his whining is lame, it's also good news. It makes me pretty confident he'll be ready to go by the playoffs. We've seen him fight through injuries before and it looks like no injury he has should be season-altering.

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The Spurs obviously need their Big 3 to be playing at the top of their game to have any kind of chance, so, in that, it definitely sounds to be good news.

One other good thing to come out of this?

His play has warranted an All-Star appearance. That should give him a decent little break and hopefully help to recharge his batteries for the second half..

Since 10 years tony has played more 1100 games 1 game all 3 day