injury report: Parker suffering knee and back issues

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Originally Posted by kace

i also know what Tim thinks about summer play. He should hate it because he simply always failed badly in international competitions and that will be a major hole, IMO, in his wonderful career.

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Wrong

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Originally Posted by Gooshie

Ummm, no. Timmy only failed one Summer - 2004 - and the main reason for that was he and Iverson were the only 2 elite players at the time who did not back out from their commitment to Athens.

He dominated International Competition in 1999 and 2003. I believe he was the USA bball player of the year both times.

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I don't know if there is such an award, but it would have gone to Duncan in 2003 and to Duncan or Payton in 1999.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Kidd

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Kidd didn't play in 1999 and was definitely not the best player on the 2003 team.

http://www.usabasketball.com/news.ph...page=mtoa_1999

http://www.usabasketball.com/news.ph...page=mtoa_2003

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Originally Posted by fred33

Since 10 years tony has played more 1100 games 1 game all 3 day

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Duncan has played more and has more injuries than TP.

You don't hear Duncan blame bad play to injuries. Ever.

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Originally Posted by cheguevara

Duncan has played more and has more injuries than TP.

You don't hear Duncan blame bad play to injuries. Ever.

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Well that has also to do with him being duncan. You dont hear Duncan at all on most subjects. :)

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

I am so sick of this crap. It's nauseating. You get paid to play NBA ball. Stop whining. You're hurt because you didn't rest this summer. This will bite you and the team in the ass right when they need you the most. Where are your priorities?

Well, you'll have a lot of rest in April or May again to heal your broken body because if you're not healthy the Spurs aren't going anywhere. And, it doesn't seem like you are healthy enough to last the entire season plus play-offs.

Hope summer play was worth it. I'm pretty sure I can guess what the Spurs and Timmy think about your summer play.:rolleyes

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I feel your frustration and this situation is going to continue until the players themselves decide what their priorities are. As of now many players are committed to their NTs and Stern will not speak against this. He has stated that the NBA is will not do anything against any player that wants to play summer ball for their respective NTs. He is afraid that if he were to let the NBA FOs apply pressure against players that do then his world wide expansion wont happen. He really wants to have teams all over the world so as to dominate the basketball scene and all the :greedy that goes with it. I'm following the $$$ on this one.

And until the owners have the balls to go against Stern I believe the status quo will continue. Stern is looking at the overall picture of how to increase the NBA exposure - therefore dollars - while the owners are just looking at their bottom lines. The owners gave in to him a long time ago and now are starting to feel the consequences. Regaining some sort of leverage is going to be tough. Anyway Stern took a league that was finacially almost dead if not on life support and built it into what it is today. Yes, he needed players like Magic, Bird and Jordan...etc. to help him but he's on the business end of the NBA. He was/is just doing his job - selling the league and expanding it so as to max out the marketing $$$ available. The owners and players have more than reaped their fair share of the $$$. IMHO

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Originally Posted by kace

i also know what Tim thinks about summer play. He should hate it because he simply always failed badly in international competitions and that will be a major hole, IMO, in his wonderful career.

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IIRC he was frustrated at the officiating based on FIBA rules. He was getting fouled repeatedly in the paint with no calls in his favor. I frankly don't see that as a major hole if any. I've always wanted to know how an American game got hijacked by the Olympic committee that implemented international rules rather than American ones. Could it be that at that time the USA was so dominate that it really didn't matter or was there another reason. Either way it is what it is but not wanting to play by FIBA rules doesn't diminish his career whatsoever.

How many times does Parker hit the floor in an average NBA game? 5-8? Maybe that's too few, but let's say a conservative estimate of 6 per game. That's about 500 times per season, not including pre-season, playoff games and practices...not to mention National Team games and practices.

A player who drives and hits the floor and pinballs himself off of huge physical men 5,000-6,000 times over more than 10 years of professional basketball...is going to have issues.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

This is more fatigue than any type of real injury. Pop really needs to consider resting him some. Perhaps if they plan to rest Duncan on a back to back then Parker can rest the game before/after.

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Completely agree. What does it say about Pop's level of concern with this team that he's been rushing to put Duncan and Parker back into games at the slightest bit of adversity? Despite the fact that the team just completed their busiest stretch of the season and the fact that one is playing, if not injured, then at the very least hurt and the other they're trying to monitor the minutes of? In the past, Pop would have risked losing games at the expense of not wearing these two out. Right now, he's throwing caution to the wind.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Exactly. TP probably has mild/moderate PF and is physically and mentally tired. The combination has led to a slow start to the season.

While his whining is lame, it's also good news. It makes me pretty confident he'll be ready to go by the playoffs. We've seen him fight through injuries before and it looks like no injury he has should be season-altering.

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timvp
always the optimist

motherfucker.

this guy is becoming more and more frustrating with each passing day.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Exactly. TP probably has mild/moderate PF and is physically and mentally tired. The combination has led to a slow start to the season.

While his whining is lame, it's also good news. It makes me pretty confident he'll be ready to go by the playoffs. We've seen him fight through injuries before and it looks like no injury he has should be season-altering.

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How will he be ready 40 some odd games from now if he is tired and hurt already? Wouldn't that get worse before the playoffs? I don't get why some say that. :bang

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Originally Posted by cheguevara

I don't remember Manu blaming bad games on his injuries, at EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW :pctoss

nut up Tony!!!

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Actually Manu talks more about his injuries than Tony ever has. For years, after every bad game Manu would list off all his bumps and bruises in almost every interview, but then add something like "that's not an excuse" at the end.

Anyway, I don't think either of them Manu/Tony are whining about their injuries. I think they are asked questions in interviews like, "You didn't play well against the XXX, are you banged up?" and then they answer. So I really don't get what the big deal is.

guys it just hit me!!!!!!! i bet the reason pop is playing him so much regardless of the injuries, is because he doesnt want to reward parker for playing in the summer, think about it if he rests him parker will think its ok and keep doing the same old shit, meanwhile influencing other national playerson our team.

if you think about it this is a smart way of telling parker hes going to pay for it one way or the other!!! and pop[s prob. thinking why am i going to rest him when he should have been resting in the summer, im paying this bitch to play so hes going to play.

conclusion! pop is indirectly showing these players that theyre not going to have it easy after risking their body for n/t ,and come back here and be half ass!!! i would do the same thing, and if he cant handle it well we trade him, these are all consequences of playing 4 NT and if you cant handle it dont do it next time!!!

who agrees w/me???????? and if you disagree i dont want to hear it!!!jk

I don't know if you're right, but if you are, i think it's stupid. We need a healthy and rested big3 for the Playoffs.
That's why Duncan sits in b2b and Manu has limited minutes. Parker should rest some (28-30mn/game should be good).