Is he a franchise player? Yes...just not the Spurs franchise.
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Is he a franchise player? Yes...just not the Spurs franchise.
No. All Star when healthy, but not franchise.
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Originally Posted by DAF86
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Originally Posted by tp2021
I wasnt saying that as an argument if tony parker is a franchise player and Paul is not, but I was saying that, to say Parker is a better player than Paul and why he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
Anyway I think the only true franchise players in the NBA are just Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Wade and Howard
Still, saying that a guy is better than another 'cause one doesn't need a screen and the other does is dumb, and on this particular case is even dumber 'cause is not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukefal
I think Paul is not that good as everybody sees him. as I said about thisQuote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Paul puts up more numbers, because everything is envolving about him. Everything is set up for him. I do think that Paul is a better defender and passer than Tony is, but I think tony is a better scorer and he is better in penetrating in the basket in offense.
For Paul it's all pick/screen and roll, plays for him, that's the only way he is solid and dangerous, in that way tp is more independent, creates himself a way to the basket.
Also I think if Paul would have been playing for the spurs, with the rest everything the same. He would be very dissapointing
bukafen is the french version of the rabid argy manu>dirk fan. Still, to say that parker>paul...(because paul needs "screens".....rofl)....probably almost as bad as those shitheads on LG saying kobe>jordan. Serious question here: does anyone that actually watch chris paul seriously think he's not every bit as good a finisher/penetration/scorer as chris paul is? His team needs him to be more of a distributer, that's all. P.S right now, I'm not sure parker is even the top 5 best pg in the league. Deron Paul Nash Rondo Parker?
Paul uses the pick and roll 'cause that way he is able to create plays for him and/or his teammates, but that doesn't mean he can't create for himself on isolation plays, besides when do you see Tony going one on one on games? That's not Spurs ball, 90% of Tony's plays in the halfcourt come from the pick and roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukefal
Paul besides beign a better defender and passer (acording to you) is a better shooter-
CP3- 49 FG% - 42 3pt% - 84 FT%
Tony- 48 FG% - 30 3pt% - 76 FT%
And a more efficient scorer-
CP3- 19.5 pts in 14 FG attemps (1.3 pts per att)
Tony- 16.8 pts in 13 FG attempts (1.2 pts per att)
I really can't see how you think that Tony is better than CP3 right now.
Floor general>scoring point guard. Parker is great. But he doesn't make the other around him better. Cp3 does. If we had paul this year you can damn there hand us the lob. Hed make everyone on this squad better. Parker is not a franchise player. Tim has been a blessing. Gonna be tough to see him clock out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukefal
Manu would facerape Dirk on his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor
Yup im French :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor
But then again, you also think uruguayans are 'argies'. :toast
anyway, I just dont think so. Im talking about in general, not about right right now. This season Parker hasnt been so well, not on his best.
rabid argy fan = case in point.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
What reason did you have to say that if paul played on the spurs, he would be "disappointing" like parker? (other than your french bias, of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukefal
I took a chapter from the Mavs fans' book.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor
Again, im not talking about Parker being a franchise player and paul not. Parker isnt a franchise player, I agree. CP3 = the hornets, he leads the whole team, with us its different, we have a bunch of quality players, they dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurspokesman
Because if he was at the spurs, it wouldnt be all involving around him. he wouldnt be the main focus of the team. His number would go down drastically. TP can also put up high numbers up every game, but it doesnt fit in the spurs systemQuote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor
no. he might not even be an all star this yr
might? He won't.
How come it's always Parker compared to CP, Nash, or Kidd?
How bout comparing Manu to Kobe, James?
Why would you compare a scrub shooting 40% from the field averaging barely over 10 ppg to the 2 best players in the game today? lol crazed argy fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by gilmor
'Cause Manu comes off the bench, plays less than 30 minutes per game and takes only 9 shots per game and let's be honest isn't playing all that well right now, besides Kobe/James >>>>> Any of those PG, either way in 2008 (Manu's best statistical season) he was considered the 2nd best SG in the league and a lot of people were comparing him to Kobe (not me), the funny thing is that 2008 wasn't his best season but people only look at stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by gilmor
Not totally sure, but I believe these are the only starting point guards to win a ring over the last 30 years.
Derek Fischer
Rajon Rondo
Tony Parker
Chancey Billups
Jason Williams
Avery Johnson
bj armstrong
Ron Harper
Kenny Smith
Isiah Thomas
Magic Johnson
Dennis Johnson
Maurice Cheeks
Geography fail. You know you can move your cursor towards the flag under the poster's avatar, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor
See that flag under my avatar, that's an Argentinian flag, the flag under gilmor's avatar is a Philipinian one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadOdor