I'm noticing more and more Parker not passing to Blair

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Originally Posted by Dex

Granted, Tony probably has the hardest adjustment on this team, trying to integrate all of these new pieces and spread the scoring load that was pretty much all on him last season. It's fair to expect a learning curve, but this has been dragging out for a while. The Spurs can't afford to have any of the Big 3 coming up as a question mark come playoff time.

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I have no sympathy for Parker because he's the one that bitched and moaned the loudest last year, claiming the roster needed upgrades. He basically carried the load last year and reminded everyone that he needed help. Now that he's gotten help, he's continued playing his selfish brand of ball-hogging offense, causing the rest of the team to suffer.

He can't have it both ways. He cannot complain about being tired and dead legged, yet continue to force his own offense, while failing to integrate the new weapons around him that could help relieve some of his offensive burden.

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Originally Posted by BigVee

There are certain passes Tony can't make especially from the top of the key on a pick and roll...maybe because of his size, don't know. He passes well when driving and a defender comes at him but his range of passing is limited, unlike Manu who can make all the passes, even the ill advised ones that make you cringe.

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One of the reasons why TP doesn't average more assist per game.A lot of people said that it's because our style of play but that's not true at all.
When Manu is the PG he gets assist easily.

move manu to the starting pg and start parker at the 2. on defense tp can still guard the other pg.

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Originally Posted by ivanfromwestwood

move manu to the starting pg and start parker at the 2. on defense tp can still guard the other pg.

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Actually, Hill has been guarding the opposing PG (DWill, CP3)... I believe this is because Pop don't want to tax Tony on the defensive end...

Parker can't pass with his left hand, and he's just not a crafty passer in general. i think he sees him, but he doesn't have much in his arsenal in the way of passing ans so can't get him the ball.

This is just what the French do. Help you out at the beginning then bitch and moan at you for the next 250 yrs.

To answer the OPs concern, Parker's still mad cause Eva told Blair she wanted to find out why they call him the "Beast".

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Originally Posted by Whisky Dog

To answer the OPs concern, Parker's still mad cause Eva told Blair she wanted to find out why they call him the "Beast".

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:wow

:lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I have no sympathy for Parker because he's the one that bitched and moaned the loudest last year, claiming the roster needed upgrades. He basically carried the load last year and reminded everyone that he needed help. Now that he's gotten help, he's continued playing his selfish brand of ball-hogging offense, causing the rest of the team to suffer.

He can't have it both ways. He cannot complain about being tired and dead legged, yet continue to force his own offense, while failing to integrate the new weapons around him that could help relieve some of his offensive burden.

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Great post. You pretty much mirrored my thoughts on the situation.

Parker's shtick is getting old. With every passing second he shows more and more that things are all about him and he will sacrifice whatever to keep it that way. The timeline looks like this:

He has career stats last year carrying the team.

He gripes about needing help.

He plays for his national team even though he saw what happened to Manu.

He gets help through free agency and the draft.

He looks slow and tired because he didn't get enough rest in the offseason.

He whines about being tired and beat up even though it was self inflicted.

41 games into the season, he is still not using the help that he asked for.

It's like he is going in the opposite direction from a maturity standpoint. Instead of finding a way to integrate his teammates(you know, that help he was wanting) he plays the same old selfish Tonyball. He had better get over himself quick or this team is going nowhere.

Where's ducks? I'm surprised he hasn't come to TP's rescue yet.

I've noticed this time and again. Blair would be wide open, but TP would never deliver the ball. I'm chalking it up to TP not having the skills to pass the ball. These are same passes Manu makes every day to Blair.

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Originally Posted by beachwood

I've noticed this time and again. Blair would be wide open, but TP would never deliver the ball. I'm chalking it up to TP not having the skills to pass the ball. These are same passes Manu makes every day to Blair.

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Cop out. He makes tough passes to Duncan all the time. He also makes some pretty tough passes when passing out to jump shooters. Parker is doing what Parker wants to do...that is pretty much the long and short of it.

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Originally Posted by Whisky Dog

This is just what the French do. Help you out at the beginning then bitch and moan at you for the next 250 yrs.

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what do u known about french and even american history, do you only remember when the twin towers were destroyed by a man with a cutter?
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ps: please dont talk about our country, you insult us!

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Originally Posted by JP le Requin

what do u known about french and even american history, do you only remember when the twin towers were destroyed by a man with a cutter?
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ps: please dont talk about our country, you insult us!

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Try to stay on the subject, people! (I wouldn't bring up any 9-11 references either, just bad taste.)

you right..if only others american people could do like you..

maybe TP doesnt want blair shine in order to have ian on the court and let him shine more than blair... no impossible i hope...i love the way blay play...

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Originally Posted by Dex

n't a huge surprise, but also isn't a good sign for a "point guard".

Granted, Tony probably has the hardest adjustment on this team, trying to integrate all of these new pieces and spread the scoring load that was pretty much all on him last season. It's fair to expect a learning curve, but this has been dragging out for a while. The Spurs can't afford to have any of the Big 3 coming up as a question mark come playoff time.

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Eh, he just either has a lack of court vision, or he has trust issues. Any decent PG on this squad would be averaging double figure assists.

He's more of a shooting guard playing at the point...

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Originally Posted by Whisky Dog

This is just what the French do. Help you out at the beginning then bitch and moan at you for the next 250 yrs.

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Originally Posted by Whisky Dog

To answer the OPs concern, Parker's still mad cause Eva told Blair she wanted to find out why they call him the "Beast".

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:wakeup

I guess ST can count on you to "raise the bar"...

Why all the Parker hate?

If not for his plantar fasciitis he would be taking us to another level.

First, he is one of our best scorers and last year was virtually unstoppable going to the rim. When you can get points in the paint like him, you should be shooting and shooting often. Even if you are a point guard. Unfortunately, he doesn't have his burst of speed because of injuries. But we tend to win when he gets his points.

Second, he has never been a pass first point guard. Our offense is designed around him getting to the rim and putting pressure on the interior defense. He draws and kicks very well and is averaging a respectable amount of assists.

Third, Blair, although a nice rookie, is hardly a classic finisher in the lane. For every nice finish, he blows three or four dunks or easy shots. He also tends to get his shot blocked against bigger, longer defenders. That's not to say that he isn't effective in the paint. But if I have a choice between Parker and Blair shooting, I take Parker every time.

We need Parker's scoring. If he were 100% like last year, our team would be on par with the Cavs and the Lakers. He isn't the same player this year, unfortunately.

So if Parker isnt the same player as last year dont you think he should PASS it!

If blair was playing for the suns he'd probably be averaging 15 and 10 maybe even 18 and 10. parker is on a young decline too many national team blunders. for being an elite scorer he's doesn't have an ''elite'' PPG stat. His assists suck too, undersized shooting guard.....

TP just isn't a great passer. His assist come mainly off reactions to what he does or attempts to do offensively or PNRs with Duncan. Not so much from other players cutting to the basket. If his drives to the basket aren't successful, his whole game suffers. If he was a better, more confident passer, he'd have a handful of alley oops (or at least attempted alley oops) to Jefferson by now.

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Originally Posted by Dex

I'm finding myself becoming less and less please with Tony Parker's mental state. As much as I admired the guy for putting up career numbers last year, I am almost equally as disappointed with him this year, and it's not just with his lack of production. Tony's mind just doesn't seem to be in it this season.

The French national team - this is a no-brainer. Tony saw what happened to Manu when he played over the summer. He should know that a body can't survive playing basketball around the clock. And yet he did it anyway, and his body is paying for it now.

Looking to pass - Pop can probably be blamed for this one as well, but Tony's desire to get his teammates involved has hindered the team more than it has helped. When Tony isn't looking to drive to the hoop and let the passing come to him, his game suffers. His assist-to-turnover ratio has been atrocious, and he just looks out of sync at times. Considering he is supposed to be our engine, that can't happen

Concealing his injuries - I assume that the Spurs FO new about his plantar fasciitis before the public did, but I have to wonder by how much. Tony told Elliott in an interview that it's "gotten better over the past month", so you have to wonder if he has been struggling all season. If so, should he have asked Pop for rest earlier? Now we're to the point where we can't really afford to sit him for long, but we also can't afford to have a Jekyll-and-Hyde Parker, where you never know if you're gonna get quickfoot or slowfoot on the court.

Focus on the court - let's just say it doesn't always seem to be there.

Falling in love with the jumper - Unless he's on the break, it seems like Tony has backed off of the drive, and is settling on the jumper more. That would be fine if his jumper was falling like last season. Fact of the matter: it's not.

Lack of cohesion with his teammates - People have already mentioned Tony not looking for Blair. Now it also seems like he's having a hard time getting Jefferson the ball in good spots. Really, the only people Tony looks comfortable playing with are Tim and Manu, which I guess isn't a huge surprise, but also isn't a good sign for a "point guard".

Granted, Tony probably has the hardest adjustment on this team, trying to integrate all of these new pieces and spread the scoring load that was pretty much all on him last season. It's fair to expect a learning curve, but this has been dragging out for a while. The Spurs can't afford to have any of the Big 3 coming up as a question mark come playoff time.

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I completely agree... Some say it's ALL because of his injuries, and I hope it is... but even if it is just because of that, I don't see how that's a good excuse at all. Tony needs to get his shit together... I've been one of his biggest supporters from day 1, but this doesn't even seem like the same guy I've always been a huge fan of.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Third, Blair, although a nice rookie, is hardly a classic finisher in the lane. For every nice finish, he blows three or four dunks or easy shots. He also tends to get his shot blocked against bigger, longer defenders. That's not to say that he isn't effective in the paint. But if I have a choice between Parker and Blair shooting, I take Parker every time.

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Really? lmao... Blair blows 3 or 4 for every 1?... wtf are you watching, and where did you take your math classes at?

Guy is shooting well over 50%, so how does that add up?

damm when duncan got this injury he did not get ripped
this year tp has new teamates and is trying to gain trust in each other

it takes time
when blair misses dunks it is hard to trust him

oh it took duncan 2 years to trust tp
where were those post then about duncan


tp needs to get mental right but pop has to help him
he seems to be ok with him

Manu posted in an interview he and pop are not getting along

nothing along that line from tp about pop

rj got blasted in the paper by pop for not telling the spurs fo about his back
maybe tp hide it
he knew spurs wished he did not play for france but did anyhow
but he was healthy

manu was hurt when he still played for his country


if spurs score near 100 the o is not the problem it would be turnovers,missed free throws, or d

damm when duncan got this injury he did not get ripped
this year tp has new teamates and is trying to gain trust in each other

it takes time
when blair misses dunks it is hard to trust him

oh it took duncan 2 years to trust tp
where were those post then about duncan


tp needs to get mental right but pop has to help him
he seems to be ok with him

Manu posted in an interview he and pop are not getting along

nothing along that line from tp about pop

rj got blasted in the paper by pop for not telling the spurs fo about his back
maybe tp hide it
he knew spurs wished he did not play for france but did anyhow
but he was healthy

manu was hurt when he still played for his country


if spurs score near 100 the o is not the problem it would be turnovers,missed free throws, or d

i'm sure his reduced level of play is entirely due to his injury. given that, popovich needs to reduce his minutes. this is all on popovich.