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I thought he was the new Rasheed?
He will sign with Panathinaikos.
Hailslip sucks anyways!
If true, makes sense. He obviously wasn't an NBA player. Had the size and the build but the skill level just wasn't there. Add in the fact that Matt Bonner is back and Ian Mahinmi passed him in the rotation and Haislip was never going to play a meaningful minute again.
I'm guessing Haislip offered to give back some money so he could go sign a bigger contract with that Greek team ... and the Spurs jumped at the opportunity.
Precursor to a move or acquisition of some type?
By the way, where is this being reported?
That is great. Save the Spur some money and gives the guy a chance to play.
Doubtful. Seems to be tied to that Greek team wanting him and not the Spurs wanting to make room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5304Quote:
Spurs waive Marcus Haislip
Posted by Inside Hoops
The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have waived forward Marcus Haislip to allow him to pursue opportunities outside of the NBA.
The 6-10, 230-lb Haislip appeared in 10 games for San Antonio and averaged 2.5 points and 1.0 rebounds in 4.4 minutes.
The Spurs roster stands at 14.
At least he proved to himself that he took the shot but just wasn't good enough for NBA. No shame, kid can go make buku money in Europe and live better than us still.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Panathinakos was looking for a PF to play the Euroleague top16 because they had injuries at the PF spot. The deadline to sign this player is next Tuesday.
Haislip will clear NBA waivers this Tuesday just before the Euroleague deadline.
Wonder how much money the Spurs saved. It would have been nice if that Greek team had to pay a buyout, but that's apparently a one-way street.
Probably won't mean much, but it does leave the possibility open for an open roster spot..does this potentially save the Spurs any money? I would imagine it's nothing of importance..
Haislip definitely isn't an NBA guy though, you could see that when he was overwhelmed in preseason..I wish him well though, I'm sure he'll continue to have success in Europe..
Speaking of Europe, has Marcus Williams tried there yet? I hope he isn't still trying to make the NBA..
If Hailsip has accepted to forfeit the rest of his salary, Spurs have saved $785,044.
He is playing in China for $200K.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Had you heard rumblings or did it just make sense once you heard the news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Tim and Kori please un ban me now?
Remember i told you this head of time. I told you from my inside source same as Bourousis story proved true.
Please now. After Bourousis story was true you never took my ban off. Now I again tell you this about Haislip.
I have PROVEN my truth and my inside sources.
Tim remember I told you 1.5 million euros. Haislip will be backup PF in PAO for next month due to their injuries.
I told you this BEFORE press even knew about it.
Just like everything I said about Bourousis - Popvich confirmed it was true. You banned me for arguing about it. You made fun of me. Called me a liar. You never took the ban off after you found I told the truth.
Again now I prove my truth and source to you about haislip.
Please be fair and let me back now that you know all along I was always telling truth in the boards.
There have been articles today saying that Panathinaikos was interested in Haislip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
It makes sense that the Spurs would let him go to pursue a better opportunity while also saving a little cash. But it also gives them little roster flexibility to take a flier on some kind of D-League prospect or maybe even bring aboard a guy like Dorrell Wright without having to give up any assets.
Good luck, 'Slip.
Thanks, Bruno.
Also, Tim I said over and over in this forum Haislip was a bad player and sucked and was like 20th best PF in Euroleague MAYBE to be kind and generous.
Bruno and Mountainballer lied lied lied to the forum that he was good. They lied lied lied telling all the Americans I was lying and they told truth and how good he would be and how great he would help Spurs.
I did everything to tell the truth and say he sucked and was garbage. You did not believe me - none of the fans here did.
You banned me also for arguing about this and calling Bruno and mountainballer liars.
I KNOW they are liars and never watch euroleague. Once again I was proven right. You KNOW now once again I told the truth and they were lying.
It was them all along that were lying and I was telling the truth. Please take my ban off now that you know that all along I was always being honest here and being picked on unfairly.
Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
I thought Bynum was the next Kareem?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Cleva
K_B_P.:lol
You're going to call in, right?
Oh well... All the best for Marcus! :)
Spurs can't get Dorrell Wright without trading a player like Finley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Now, I agree Spurs get some flexibility. Spurs could try some D-League players with 10 days contract, sign a vet PG (Antonio Daniels) or a project player like Rashad McCants.
IMO, they will keep the roster spot open to save money and wait until the deadline to see if an interesting vet will be available.
nooooooooooooooooooooooo............ It is back !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Help me out Bruno, the way I've been made to understand it, the Spurs would only need a roster spot and a willingness to take on the salary..Quote:
Hollinger:
The Heat can offer anyone the $951,066 he'll have left on his contract on trade-deadline day to take Wright off their hands, likely adding a sweetener for the trouble (for instance, either more cash or one of the two second-round picks they got from the Hornets on draft day last year).
Spurs are over the cap, they need a trade exception big enough to take Wright salary ($2.9M). Spurs don't have that trade exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Thanks, that's what I thought to start but was told something different (might have just misunderstood).
If the Spurs were able to save some money, then this is a good deal all around.
Good luck Haislip.
And it's nice for Spurs to have a team in Greece willing to pay salaries of Spurs' garbage (Haislip and Spatula).
Spurs cannot take another player on via trade without giving another player up because they are over the cap. The only way they could get Wright without a trade is if he is waived.
Most definitely, although I think Span could have helped if his head was right. But this Haislip thing is a very nice bailout on a move that did not workout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
lol 'Spatula'.
Is there any way to make a trade and get back under the cap?
Yep, whottt called him "Vaginis Spatula". Great name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Highly unlikely if you are talking about this year. I would say impossible. For next year, yes if they trade RJ and get an expiring back.Quote:
Originally Posted by I. Hustle
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Originally Posted by I. Hustle
Unless u want to tank the season and Gut the team no..
LOL tank the season. Most people think we already have.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...=144757&page=2Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
All of info is in my posts there on that page.
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Originally Posted by I. Hustle
The same people clammoring for Marcus haislip to get minutes?
yes if show is on at good time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
What about if they trade one player for two -- could that be done with a full roster, or is it now a new option?Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I think there are too many people reading way too much into this.
Haislip was never going to play for the Spurs. The Spurs had an opportunity to cut him and his salary, its a no brainer.
That's probably all it is and not a precursor for anything else.
You were wrong about Haislip and I was right. The forum never should have trusted you as a source of European basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainballer
They can certainly trade one player for two. That is what the extra roster spot opens up. That could not be done before unless they waived someone before the trade. Now they can just do a 2 for 1 trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
It has nothing to do with Spurs moves. Panathinaikos has injuries at PF spot so they hired Haislip for the backup PF position for next month to cover for the injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Das Texan
They offer money to Spurs and they take it and Haislip can get maybe 15 minutes for time being in PAO. Nothing more to this than that.
Is that before lux-tax implications? Meaning is it twice this amount?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Spurs could take a player if he is on a minimum contract. Teams don't need a trade exception or to be under the cap to take these players.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
It's the salary and the luxury tax combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomanul
Yes, but that would be the same as taking a d-league player or picking up someone from waivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
If it is someone that is already on a team that has a contract that is above the minimum, the Spurs could not get them unless they traded a player.
No, I don't see why it would be the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I do not see why the Spurs would even entertain bringing in another player to ride the bench. Isn't that what Mahimi is doing and Harriston was doing? Why take on more penalty?
Because if they are coming from the D-L aren't they getting minimum contracts? The Spurs can call up someone from the D-L now that they have a roster spot, and they would likely get a 10-day contract or pro-rated minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
If they claim someone from waivers or get a bought out player, it would likely be on a minimum contract.
So being able to trade for a player on a minimum contract without giving up a player as if they were under the cap is the same thing in my eyes, which is why they are allowed to do it.
I don't know of anyone in the D-League who would be of immediate help -- maybe tweener forwards like Mike Harris, Trey Gilder or Rob Kurz who might fill a Haislipish role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
There are a few good point guards if they want to go that direction. I'm not overly impressed with Curtis Jerrells' defense this season. There are a couple of guys I would call up before him -- and Antonio Daniels is just sitting around right?
There are no swingmen who play better than Hairston. There is only a need for one if Finley is really done. Also there are no big men better than Ian at this point either -- or really much better than Dwayne Jones for that matter. A couple of them like Greg Stiemsma have some potential as shot blockers, but they are quite a ways off from contributing to a team like the Spurs.
Right. Such a player would have to be able to help immediately or have a Hairston-like level of potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by elbamba
Well, what you say makes no sense. It simply isn't at all the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/65616/180
Both of PAO backup big men are injured. Backup Batiste and backup Tsartsaris and they will miss top 16 games.
This is why Haislip will be signed to try to backup Antonis Fotsis. There is nothing to this to do with Spurs future roster moves.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Kurz plays in the Greek League with Aris.
Can you please clarify? Are the types of contracts the Spurs would be giving out to D-L players and waiver players not the same as the ones they can trade for without giving up a player?
Spurs making a move on the trade block. Book it.
No, for example Spurs could sign players with the LLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
And it's not because they have the same contract than it's the same thing. It would be like saying Mike D'Antoni is the same thing as a cat because they have both staches.
Spurs waive Haislip
By Jeff McDonald
The Marcus Haislip era with the Spurs has come to a close. The team waived Haislip Friday, saying in a release it wanted to allow him to focus on opportunities outside of the NBA (most likely read: Europe).
A former first-round draft choice of the Milwaukee Bucks, Haislip had hoped to use the Spurs to make his triumphant return to the NBA after four seasons abroad. It didn't quite work out.
Haislip appeared in just 10 games with the Spurs, and was inactive most nights. The 6-foot-10 forward averaged 2.5 points.
Haislip's 2009-2010 contract was guaranteed, meaning the Spurs must eat the remainder of his $855,189 salary, as well as a portion of the $915,852 he is owed next season, in order to waive him.
By doing so, the Spurs bring their roster down to 14, giving them the flexibility to sign another free agent going forward.
Yes, because the problem the Spurs have is lack of talent. If they add another player, who goes to the bench? Doubtful that the rotation is going to open up to share minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
:wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Timvp on January 11 2010
James White!!
That sucks, if true. However, if the Spurs did eat the rest of Haislip's contract, that does make it much more likely this move was meant to open the door for another transaction.Quote:
Haislip's 2009-2010 contract was guaranteed, meaning the Spurs must eat the remainder of his $855,189 salary, as well as a portion of the $915,852 he is owed next season, in order to waive him.
I was making a reference that the rule you mentioned is in place because there are other cap rules (10 day contracts, unlimited league minimum contracts...) in place that allow for similar moves. It would just make sense. But I see what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Certainly, the Spurs usually do right by their players, as long as it makes financial sense. But I could not see them just eating his contract to let him go play. There would have to be some incentive. Unless the Spurs thought no one would take his contract and they were going to have to pay him no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Surely if he wanted to be let go there was a buyout negotiated to save the Spurs some money.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Yeah, you would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
If i were the lakers i would goble him up and release walton.
Remember how Panathinaikos paid 1 million euros to Spurs to get Spanoulis? Well they paid 1.5 million to them to get Haislip.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
The salary of Haislip still counts on Spurs salary cap just like it did with Spanoulis because of NBA CBA rules. But Spurs pocket 1.5 million EUROS, not dollars cash from this. Already has been sent to Spurs bank account.
Popovich is very close personal friends with PAO coach Obradovic. Do not forget that.
Also 1.5 million euros = $2.12084 dollars
The amount of money saved then, could throw some light upon this move.
I hope and pray that the FO isn't that stupid. The only reason I can imagine that there wouldn't have been a buyout of some sort is if this move is on the Spurs' timeline, which means that there's going to be some move by the end of the weekend that required the open roster spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I doubt McDonald is right:
First, Haislip 10-11 salary was fully nonguaranteed.
Second, If Haislip hadn't agreed to a buyout, Spurs would likely have traded him (with cash) to a team under the tax to avoid paying the luxury tax on his contract.
Third, his bad record speaks for itself.
$2M+ for Haislip? For some reason I doubt that . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
:lol @ second hand KBP. I think the best case scenario is that Haislip and the Spurs agree that he is owed no more money this season; basically a zero buyout.That would be pretty stupid to do before he clears waivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by KBProxy
I just heard a BBC report on the Greek financial situation (the country is broke).
Lies, big lies and then Greek accounting.
1.5 Millions?
And Euros???
Obradovic will probably pay a Greek salad and, maybe, a souvlaki to Popovich when he comes over.
Popovich might have to bring a bottle of wine, though.
Having said that, I don't think that any top European team would want Jefferson for more than 200K.
Dollars, of course.
Maybe you could interest them in Dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin
This is a good move, we traditionally have always had an opportunity to pick up a player who can provide some value to the team like Gooden or Stoudamire.
With teams scrambling to free up cash for next season, there are sure to be some valuable players cut loose for us to consider.
You means the player formerly known as Bonner. He is now known as "The Claw".Quote:
Originally Posted by iSupportBonner
Dice would be perfect for Switzerland.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
They play once every two weeks, slow pace, and the guards actually e-mail you before they dare making a pass.
Coach Obradovic of PAO said to Greek reporters they already sent 1.5 million euros to the Spurs. It has already been received by the Spurs. Once again, Popovich and Obradovic are very close friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
They often visit with each other in the summer.
sucks for Haislip but he didnt look like an nba player.
didnt understand the hype about him in the first place.
Haislip confirms.
http://www.sentragoal.gr/article.asp...&pubid=7000040
He says he will play for PAO and that he left Spurs because Popovich would not play him. He says every player in Europe dreams to play for PAO.
Perhaps the Spurs are paving the way to bring back Anthony Tolliver. :-)
He still apparently can't shoot, but he can do things other than Haislip. He's on another ten-day right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Can't draw a foul either. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Hooray! The Spurs have fixed all their problems by waiving their end of the bench player. That should fix the defense.
I can't believe Golden State went to Tolliver in clutch time to tie the game with a 3 vs. Denver a few days ago..he obviously missed, as expected LOL..I guess they were trying to get a Sundiatta Gaines moment..
There goes one of the 'great' signings this summer, another 'under the radar' pickup that was going to work for the Spurs where he failed for somebody else.
Farewell Marcus, we never really knew ya...
- from project spurs.com, wouldn't mind taking another look at JonesQuote:
With Dwayne Jones outplaying all of his competition in the D-League and easily averaging 20 and 20 a night recently, will the Spurs look to Jones to fill the empty roster spot?
http://projectspurs.com/2010-article...to-europe.html
Jones does not have enough offensive game to be an NBA player. He defense is solid, but not good enough to compensate for his lack of an offensive game imo.
I wonder when we will get the details of what happened financially.
My money is on the Spurs looking for another vet in the 35-40 age range. Maybe they can't play very well, but look at all their experience and basketball IQ.
I hate to say it, but the braintrust has about lost my trust on signing vets. They never work out. How soon we forgive and forget the signing of N VanE
Ya Basta!