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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
You know you always think it would be fitting for our big 3 to retire as a Spur, but the reality is things don't really just work out that way. It does seem apparent that we aren't seeing the same Ginobili anymore. I'm glad he's found other ways to help the team, but i'm not sure if that will be enough to keep him around. I see the Spurs trying to sign him back for less. Weather or not he will want to stay a Spurs under those circumstances I have no clue. It's possible that if he sees a team he can make better and are contenders; he might opt for that situation. Who knows he might even go international again. Whatever happens Ginobili had a great run here. Thanks for the memories Manu!
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Unfortunately I can see it happen. It'll be a very interesting summer. If the Spurs don't win it all this year I can't see the Spurs giving him much at all if anything and Manu may decide that even though we're still a title contender that maybe it's time to go and play for another team. Also this time he's an UFA so he'll have choices and offers this year unlike when he was a RFA where we could match any offer and that teams were concerned about going after him. If LA offered him a contract a little less then what we would offer him would he consider trading teams to be in title contentions? How about teams like Houston and the Cavs? They might not be the biggest title contenders but they're still good teams that he might want to play for. Unfortunately trading him now would be bad because 1.) We couldn't get fair value for him 2.) How does this trade help us now and in the next few years that Tim has left? Interesting
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Right now the Spurs TEAM has nothing to offer to Ginobili.
The run is over.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Gino is the Man and will always be the man.
I remember watching him in preseason games the first year he came on board. (here comes the....)But if he wants to part ways and do his own thing so be it or if Spurs want to part ways and do thier thing so be it . If Spurs dont win it this year he is going to need to take a giant paycut to come back(vet minimum??). DWAYNE WADE in the house!!!
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Well you guys could always trade us for T-Mac :lol
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I think he will go to L.A. or Miami. Not Cleveland.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
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exstatic
If Ginobili leaves, the Spurs will only have the MLE to replace him.
1) you ain't getting Rudy Gay for that
2) he's a horrible chucker. His career pts/FGA is 1.18. That's pretty pedestrian. A figure like that would put you in the Ron Mercer class: a scorer who needs a LOT of shots to put up a good amount of points. By comparison, Manu's career figure is 1.41.
not false but that doesn't say the whole thing. 27 % of manu's points come from FT as they're only 17 % for Gay. And most of the times, FT also use a possession (except and one and technical FT) without any FGA counted, even if they're easy points.
Without the FT, pts/FGA for manu is 1.04 and 0.98 for Gay. rather close.
still, manu is a very very efficient player, that's for sure. but the difference here comes from his ability to go to the line.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
The problem with our team is Jefferson contract next season will stop us from getting better. So next year is going to be the same as this year so thats another year of Manu getting wear and tear on his body.
I love Manu and hope he would stay with us but if he leaves I would love for him to go to Cleveland and hang out with Danny Ferry. It would be sweet to see him tearing up the Flakers in the finals.......Oh YES..........
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edgar
Well today I had the pleasure of meeting Ginobilis brother and 2 other family members when they came in to eat at our restaurant on the river walk. He is tall like Manu and suprisingly they were extremly polite and nice people overall. I took their family picture with their camera and that broke the ice. They were waiting for their check but they asked me a question about all the airforce graduates that were walking around the river walk and I explained to them in Spanish that they graduate each week here since we have airforce bases here in town. BUT this is when I asked what every Ginobili Fan wants to know. Do you think Ginobili resigns with the Spurs? His response was: No! I told him What, Why Not? He said that he hopes he does but that his gut feeling is telling him no because he feels Ginobili has already accomplished alot here and he need to accomplish more. I was shocked but had my doubts thinking its more that the front office might not want him back instead of what his brother said.
WTF? Why is that surprising? :lol
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
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BackHome
The problem with our team is Jefferson contract next season will stop us from getting better. So next year is going to be the same as this year so thats another year of Manu getting wear and tear on his body.
I love Manu and hope he would stay with us but if he leaves I would love for him to go to Cleveland and hang out with Danny Ferry. It would be sweet to see him tearing up the Flakers in the finals.......Oh YES..........
Jefferson's contract will be an enormous asset next season. It keeps the team from doing a lot this year, but it's going to be extremely sought-after next season the way McGrady's is now.
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baseline bum
Jefferson's contract will be an enormous asset next season. It keeps the team from doing a lot this year, but it's going to be extremely sought-after next season the way McGrady's is now.
Tell Popovich to trade Blair for Arenas: that's going to be an even bigger asset, come 2014.
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temujin
Tell Popovich to trade Blair for Arenas: that's going to be an even bigger asset, come 2014.
I don't get it. The post I was referring to said Jefferson's contract will screw the team next season, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
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baseline bum
I don't get it. The post I was referring to said Jefferson's contract will screw the team next season, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
Jefferson is screwing the team NOW.
Big time.
He is the ultimate anti-spur.
And even more next season, with ginobili gone.
The FO had a chance for a last run, and they blew it with this guy (plus McDyess).
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Yes, the Spurs defense sucks because of Richard Jefferson..the coach plays small-ball because of Richard Jefferson..the Spurs have no interior D because of Richard Jefferson..the Spurs don't have a legit 2nd big because of Richard Jefferson..Parker and Manu haven't been themselves because of Richard Jefferson..
The guy has been a disappointment, but there are much bigger problems on this team than Richard Jefferson..
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Popovich is not an easy guy to play for, and I think this is the reason Manu may bolt.
Think about it - Manu could play for a guy like Adelman and do whatever he wants. He wouldn't be constrained at all. He could play loose and free, and be on the floor with Scola. Adelman is obviously a great coach if he that bunch playing that well.
This isn't just me saying this, by the way. On NBA-TV, Brent Barry described how players play "loose" for Adelman, whereas in San Antonio it's not hat way. Obviously we know why.
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HarlemHeat37
Yes, the Spurs defense sucks because of Richard Jefferson..the coach plays small-ball because of Richard Jefferson..the Spurs have no interior D because of Richard Jefferson..the Spurs don't have a legit 2nd big because of Richard Jefferson..Parker and Manu haven't been themselves because of Richard Jefferson..
The guy has been a disappointment, but there are much bigger problems on this team than Richard Jefferson..
No, there aren't.
Four on one, he goes or a weak dunk and gets blocked by Aaron frikking Brooks.
Enough said.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
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temujin
Jefferson is screwing the team NOW.
Big time.
He is the ultimate anti-spur.
And even more next season, with ginobili gone.
The FO had a chance for a last run, and they blew it with this guy (plus McDyess).
Of course his contract is screwing the team now. I was clearly referring to next season. What's screwing Ginobili's chances to be back are his lackluster shooting, defense, and ability to be effective playing heavy minutes. Using Jefferson as a scape-goat for Manu's decline is weak.
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baseline bum
Of course his contract is screwing the team now. I was clearly referring to next season. What's screwing Ginobili's chances to be back are his lackluster shooting, defense, and ability to be effective playing heavy minutes. Using Jefferson as a scape-goat for Manu's decline is weak.
Manu's decline was inevitable as much as Tim's decline is inevitable. That's exactly why we traded for RJ and Dice. To me, Tony's decline this season was the unexpected factor. But even then, you really can't attribute the sharp decline on defense on that alone, IMO.
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Send this thread to Manu?
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Even beloved players like Hakeem and Ewing ended their careers with other teams.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Ginobili will probably sign with a team with a chance at the championship. Somebody like Portland.
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tlongII
Ginobili will probably sign with a team with a chance at the championship. Somebody like Portland.
Portland?
portland is there to partecipate not to win.
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Re: Are Ginobili's Days As A Spur Numbered? Must Read
Manu next to Lebron would siiiiick...