Travis Outlaw from Portland is on the block, we could definitly use someone like him.
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Travis Outlaw from Portland is on the block, we could definitly use someone like him.
Outlaw will not put the spurs over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
It'd be a hell of a first step. As long as Parker's speed and lift is gone, there isn't a trade short of Parker for Chris Paul that would put the Spurs over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
Travis Outlaw plays worse D than Jefferson..he also absolutely needs the ball in his hands to be effective, which is a problem we already have with Jefferson..what's the point of adding him?..
and he is coming off injury for the Blazers
Trade for Haywood and tell Pop he is a shooting guard so Pop will play him thinking its small ball.
:lol
And armed with Mason, Finley & bonner, who do you see us getting that would put us "over the top". Sorry thats a weak statement, the RJ trade was supposed to put us over the top, if he isn't going to put us "over the top", no one is, I'm not really sure who you are expecting the Spurs to get..you are setting yourself up to be very disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
Parker and Dice for:
- Butler and Haywood of WAS.
- Wallace and Chandler of CHA.
- Granger and Foster of IND.
- Deng and Noah of CHI.
- Iguodala and Speights of PHI.
- Maggette and Biedrins of GSW.
- Stoudemire and Dudley of PHO.
- Martin and Thompson of SAC.
- Gay and Randolph of MEM.
- Wade and Beasley of MIA.
- Jefferson and Gomez of MIN.
All of those are horrible. Are you kidding? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by outmap
I will agree it is mostly terrible for the other team, especially the one where we give up Parker for Wade and Dice for Beasley.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimDunkem
I got 2 trades that would put us on top, first we trade Jefferson, Malik Hairston, and 1st round pick to the bobcats for Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace. The bobcats were shopping wallace around earlier in the season and I don't think Jackson is in their long term plans, so this is scenario isn't totally impossibly. If I were the spurs would even throw in splitters rights to make this deal happen, also the trade saves the bobcats money after next season.
Then after that I would trade Bonner, Finley, Mason, Mahinmi, and 2nd round pick to Philedelphia for Samuel Dalembert. I know everyone in Philedelphia thinks this guy is an underachiever, but he might just be in the wrong system. Philedelphia is an offensive minded team, while Dalembert's talent and skills are on the defensive side. Put him in San Antonio and he will flourish because the spurs will get the most out of his skills and he will be appreciated here for what he does best Block shots, rebound, and finish around the rim, thus making him a more motivated player. This trade is very possible, because Philedelphia has been looking all year for anyone to take him. But I wouldn't do this trade unless we did the trade above first. Both trades work salary wise and would give the spurs what they need defense, versatility, length, offensive creativity and athletism.
The Bobcats are going to trade their 2 best players on a Larry Brown-coached team for Richard Jefferson and a project player in his 2nd season?..
I would like to trade small ball for conventional ball and keep all the same players.
Jefferson, Hairston, and a crummy 1st round pick for the Bobcats 2 best players?? Larry Brown would break his hand slamming the phone after hearing that proposal. Not gonna happen.
Bon, Fin, Mason, Ian for Dalambert is more reasonable but that would leave the bench paper thin.
Would you send Mason and Ian for JR Smith?
What about Kevin Martin? there was rumor Dallas was trying to trade howard for him? Spencer Hawes isnt a bad Center just kinda slumping and Sacramento really likes brockman. Jason Thompson has been struggling too..but im sure he would be hard to get.
dude, my man, thanks for providing some great laughs before I head to bedQuote:
Originally Posted by outmap
it's funny that he wrote Wade AND Beasley, as if Wade wasn't enough LOL..
Any Spurs or trade rumors of any team you heard about recently?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
The Iguodala-Dalembert trade, while it's my preference, I don't expect that one will even be discussed, much less consummated, but Camby, Haywood, etc. I fully expect the Spurs to, if not put on a full court press for, at least ask about.
Ultimately, this is what it comes down to and this is the question the front office has to ask themselves: even if we improve immensely, are we good enough, barring something unforeseen, to beat the Lakers in a playoff series? Duncan is obviously more than fine as the first big, McDyess is fine as the third big, but they still don't have that second big. The only other Spurs big who matches up with the Lakers front line is Ratliff, but I can't see him being a twenty minute plus player against them and being part of a three man big rotation. He should be the fourth guy, used for spot minutes.
I think I heard something about Haywood and the Nuggets. I got some information from RealGM but I need confirmation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
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Honestly, you shouldn't take that "Haywood won't be dealt" headline very seriously. It came from a reporter in Denver's twitter feed, and he probably just got word that the low ball Nuggets offer's were rejected. What he should have written would be "Denver package for bigmen hopelessly inadequate; laughed off the phone".
Splitter is probably the deal breaker for Haywood (or Camby, for that matter). Yeah, the Spurs can offer expiring contracts, but so can other teams and those guys are already on expiring contracts to begin with, so forget that, that's not going to be considered value in either of these deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
Here's what is value...
1st round pick: True, it likely won't be a high (or low, depending on how you look at it) pick, but it has value nonetheless, even if it ultimately probably falls somewhere in the low-mid twenties.
Mahinmi: Minimal, I know and he does fall into the expiring contract category as well, but because he has intriguing physical tools, is cheap and has no guaranteed money coming to him next year, he's a worthwhile project to take on.
Splitter: He, when paired with the 1st, has to intrigue teams. A young, big, skilled, relatively athletic player who should be an instant contributor next season and will likely play on a reasonable contract.
Maybe some other contender overpays, but think about it, which one of them is desperate A) for a starting quality big man and B) for the type the Spurs need? The Nuggets will probably end up getting a backup big, such as Foster or someone of that ilk. The others? The Mavs could use one, but I've yet to hear of them being interested in one. The Cavs are in the market for a stretch four, such as Jamison, Murphy, etc. Basically, I don't see an overwhelming amount of competition.
If you're the Spurs, the 1st isn't that big a deal, but Splitter, do you sacrifice him for an in his 30s upcoming free agent (one with durability issues)? I think it depends on if they believe he's coming over this summer, how much he contributes immediately and if he takes them up a notch as a team. Personally, I don't care if two-three years from now he's producing 12/8. Within' reason, the sole goal should be to get Duncan one for the thumb. If the Spurs can get Camby/Haywood to help them (theoretically) revert to being a contender for this year and next, then I'd probably do it. Having a young big like Blair should make Splitter somewhat more expendable.
Found another one.
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NBA sources said the Washington Wizards had “light conversations” about sending center Brendan Haywood(notes) to the Portland Trail Blazers for guard Andre Miller(notes), but nothing is imminent. The transition of the Wizards’ ownership has complicated any changes the team is considering making to its roster. One NBA executive said Portland still hopes it can use Miller to net a center or small forward.
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However, according to Chris Tomasson's twitter account sources close to the situation expect Haywood to remain a Wizard throughout the rest of the season. Haywood, whose $6 million deal expires at the end of the year, is having one of the best seasons of his career with averages of 9 points and 10 rebounds. He'd be a nice short-term solution for the Blazers that could help them significantly in their playoff run while providing them with a mulligan of sorts for the Miller signing.
It might be absurd but it's possible, why? Wade will not be in Miami next season, their FO knows that and coach Erik is having problems with Beasley with his off-court antics and lack of motivation. I don't think any team is willing to offer anything better than Parker-Dice Knowing Beasley's Gooden-like attitude and the non-guarantee of Wade resigning. Unlikely, but possible.