rjeff for gerald wallace! just do it!!!
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rjeff for gerald wallace! just do it!!!
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Originally Posted by 024
While we're at it...
Jefferson for Lebron...Let's go Ferry!
Why do these fucking noobs keeping opening new threads when this shit is here??
since paul is injured, hornets should just tank. james posey anyone? his contract is horrible but he adds overall toughness and defense.
this actually got me thinking. spurs can do a last all in move.Quote:
Originally Posted by 024
richard jefferson + dead weight of bogans/finley + ratliff for okafor and posey.
NO might even have to throw in a pick or two because okafor and posey have horrible contracts. but in the end, this would give NO a serviceable scorer in paul's absence, keep them in the playoff hunt because the last thing they want to do is deal the finishing blow to their franchise by returning to the lottery, and jefferson's contract is like gold compared to posey and okafor's.
for the spurs, they will drastically improve in defense with okafor's interior dominance and posey's mid-range defense.
I was to harsh. sorry for that. I got impatient.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFBlue
Even better...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=madqll
Nobody wants RJ's bad contract, that's why I only used expirings...
I guess it's safe to say that we were the suckers...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
RJs contract is a great contract as it expires next year verses a player who has a contract for 3-5 years. (Okafor - 5 years)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The length of the contract is relative if the player delivers what he's being paid for. Whois going to pick up the tab for $14 mill/year for a guy averaging 12PPG?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
And people here think Ginobili is overpaid...
i read on espn insider that andre iguodala is still in play. what would be worth giving up? ginobili + picks/splitter? my idea of jefferson + filler for iguodala and dalembert? ginobili + filler for iguodala and dalembert? out of all the players rumored to be available, i think only iguodala wold dramatically improve this team. the question is at what price.
but we also hear that half the Wizards roster is for sale. just for the sake of discussion:
wouldn't a Caron Butler + Haywood duo help out as much or more than Iggy + Dalembert?
for probably a lower asking price and less costs long term?
I would say it depends on what they want..
For impact, you could go either way, and it depends who we would have to give up..I really don't think Butler and Jefferson would fit together at all, so for me it would depend on whether or not RJ is involved..Butler has been a poor defender this season, which might be unusual for him, and he also can't really shoot 3s..I would take him, but I don't know how well he would fit..the thing I'm worried about with Butler would be that the FO would be banking on him to defend like he used to, which is what they tried to do with RJ too, and that obviously hasn't worked out..for the record, I am definitely a fan of Butler, I'm just saying..
Iguodala would be a good fit here, regardless of whether it's Manu or RJ involved in the trade IMO..he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA..he doesn't shoot the 3 at a good clip, but that's partly due to shooting too many and the fact that he isn't suited to be a #1 option that has to consistently create his own shot, but he CAN make the 3 at a decent rate when he's in a rhythm..he's also a solid passer and still extremely athletic, so I think he would be a very good fit with the Spurs..
Haywood is my personal preference, I've been watching most of the Wizards games this season, I'm always impressed with his ability as a role player..Dalembert might put up sexier stats, but Haywood is definitely the bigger and better post defender..he's also much less of a bonehead..
I would be happy with either deal though, there isn't much of a difference between the 2 groups..it would completely be up to what they're asking for IMO..I'm assuming Washington will continue to play it tough and not let other teams lowball them since other teams probably feel like the Wizards are vulnerable with all the drama going on..I'm assuming Philly is going to act like they want teams to take back Brand if they want Iguodala..
I'm sure the right deal can be made around the deadline..the question for me is whether the Spurs are willing to give up Manu, Splitter and/or Hill or Blair, whether the Spurs FO is scared to attempt to pull off another "big" trade, and whether or not the Spurs FO feels like our current roster will be enough with gelling and health..
This is not a big or sexy trade, but I think it could help the spurs.
Spurs get Raja Bell and Ronny Turiaf
Golden State gets Mason OR Finley, Bonner, Ian, and a draft pick (and Theo if his money is needed to make deal work).
Give up offense for defense without cutting into core or taking on too much long term money. Low risk and potentially good return.
butler is too much like rj for me to want him on the spurs. having both of them would be redundant. iguodala is a great two way player the spurs need. he'll come in to score and defend on the other end. unlike jefferson, iguodala is a proven defender.
also, the sixers are most likely dangling iguodala in order to get rid of dalembert's contract as well. they won't want to deal iguodala by himself so the spurs will have to take back dalembert's contract to get the good player. dalembert is servicable though, he gets rebounds and blocks but i don't think he's a good low post defender. still, he would be better than mcdyess (currently) and the seldom seen but needed ratliff.
championship!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...ampionship.jpg
I actually like this except Arenas is suspended for the year.
BTW, am I The only one who fear that Manu is traded at the deadline?
I thought that keeping Manu was a no-brainer for Spurs but I'm now not that sure about that. Between the Stoudamire rumor, Manu talking a lot about his future FA status, Manu not playing well, it starts to make a lot of negative signs. I would hate to see Manu being traded but I'm starting to be ready at that idea.
Arenas in a spurs jersey ? are you crazy ? it could happen if Pop quits or retiresQuote:
Originally Posted by FatBeaner
spurs won't trade manu unless they get someone that dramatically improves them. they won't make a wild gamble in stoudemire so it'll have to be a player the spurs can't turn down like bosh. ginobili is hurting the team with his poor shooting but not playing like complete trash to warrant a trade. he still creates plays and plays defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno