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Originally Posted by z0sa

The Spurs have 100% underachieved this season.

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What does that have to do with the fan base being fickle? Nothing is done with 100% certainty. All you can ask for from the team you root for is that they try and win.

They have done that. They made moves that made sense and that they thought could give them the best shot to win. They spent money and put out a team that could compete.

So far it has not worked out, but that does not mean fans should bitch and moan like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sometimes things don't work out, but you take it like a man and move forward. There is nothing wrong with wanting improvements, but there is something wrong with crying like little malcontents and whining over moves that everyone would have made. Especially when those moves were made with the best of intentions.

Fickle fan base.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

What a fickle fan base the Spurs have.

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I always thought the same thing when I'd see the meltdown threads, but after the recent back 2 back losses against obviously inferior teams (on paper at least) I couldn't help but start wondering if there really is a problem and I'm just in denial.

But yea, Manu is the only movable piece that never gives up, and the only reason why I haven't shit on the Spurs during the games. Trading him is no promise that we can turn it around...and if he's gone and we're still struggling, we don't have Manu's grit and heart to fall back on to at least give us (or maybe just me?) hope.

I wouldn't mind trimming the fat from the roster and getting a defensive big to anchor us. If nothing else, the Wizards gotta be talking to the Spurs at this point for SOMETHING...give them TP, cuz once Timmy is gone he doesn't wanna "baby sit" on a non-contender. Send his ass to the Wizards before he leaves on his own so he can see how good he had it in SA.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Fickle fan base.

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You expect the fanbase to be "constant and loyal in their affections" (definition of fickle) when their team is, by some's count, vastly underachieving?

lol at the oxymorons on this thread not willing to trade away parker, gino or whoever else not name td, blair, ghill

stop fkn living in the past with the 4rings..

since our last ring, pop and co hasnt delivered and found a way to beat smallball,

fck this loyalty bs you clowns in here always bring up....

There is absolutely no denying the team has a problem. That does not change the fact the fans are fickle.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

There is absolutely no denying the team has a problem. That does not change the fact the fans are fickle.

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Fickle does not accurately describe our reaction.

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Originally Posted by ace3g

that are our 2 needs: pass first PG and Big man that can score/play defense

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:lol what a joke

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Originally Posted by z0sa

You expect the fanbase to be "constant and loyal in their affections" (definition of fickle) when their team is, by some's count, vastly underachieving?

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Read the whole post. Yes, I do expect that because the FO tried to win. It does not always happen. What do you want them to do? What else can they do besides what they have done until this point? You expect them to just be able to constantly trade for players that can win them a title every 3 months?

where are all he homers now that were calling us rearded when we were saying his all season?

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Originally Posted by fotan2

phil jackson for pop

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You know those years Phil Jackson has taken off from coaching have helped him re-energize. I really don't think he is much better than Pop. Pop could be burnt out. Pop might just need a break from it all. He doesn't seem like the same Pop aggression wise.

Same with the Bulls and Jordan. I really don't think they win 8 straight if Jordan didn't take a break from basketball.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

Fickle does not accurately describe our reaction.

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It describes it perfectly. All of the F this team and F this player shows that.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Read the whole post. Yes, I do expect that because the FO tried to win. It does not always happen. What do you want them to do? What else can they do besides what they have done until this point? You expect them to just be able to constantly trade for players that can win them a title every 3 months?

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Here's your problem: you act like the Spurs have nothing to do with the Spurs' problems.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

It describes it perfectly. All of the F this team and F this player shows that.

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If you want to name names, do it. Don't label a whole fanbase.

Point is, it is not right to do what Spurs fans do given the circumstances. The asked the FO to make moves to try and win, and they did that. That should be enough to keep fans from completely shitting on them.

Now give them time to rectify the situation.

I would give you JJ Barea for a plate of enchiladas from a good SA restaurant.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

Here's your problem: you act like the Spurs have nothing to do with the Spurs' problems.

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Where did I say that and what does that have to do with anything? One question: Did the FO make moves where a reasonable person could conclude they were trying to win?

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Originally Posted by z0sa

If you want to name names, do it. Don't label a whole fanbase.

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Don't play semantics. Do I obviously mean every single fan? No, but the majority of people on here are fickle.

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Originally Posted by gospursgojas

No way cleveland wins it. Lebron doesnt have the will yet (if ever).

God, please dont let shaq get his 5th before Tim. I would rather Kobe get it first

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Why would you rather Kobe win it?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

What does that have to do with the fan base being fickle? Nothing is done with 100% certainty. All you can ask for from the team you root for is that they try and win.

They have done that. They made moves that made sense and that they thought could give them the best shot to win. They spent money and put out a team that could compete.

So far it has not worked out, but that does not mean fans should bitch and moan like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sometimes things don't work out, but you take it like a man and move forward. There is nothing wrong with wanting improvements, but there is something wrong with crying like little malcontents and whining over moves that everyone would have made. Especially when those moves were made with the best of intentions.

Fickle fan base.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

What does that have to do with the fan base being fickle? Nothing is done with 100% certainty. All you can ask for from the team you root for is that they try and win.

They have done that. They made moves that made sense and that they thought could give them the best shot to win. They spent money and put out a team that could compete.

So far it has not worked out, but that does not mean fans should bitch and moan like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sometimes things don't work out, but you take it like a man and move forward. There is nothing wrong with wanting improvements, but there is something wrong with crying like little malcontents and whining over moves that everyone would have made. Especially when those moves were made with the best of intentions.

Fickle fan base.

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This is the first time I realise this is over!
Not only because of tonight game, but there are SO MANY reasons that you have to be blind to think there will some kind a miracle that, not only would make the team plays well (that still could happen), but also give two of our stars a "fresh body" (:lol sorry, I lack of voccab)!!!

You can't deny that we are going nowhere without a great Tony and a great Manu... both of them are far from being healthy, and I don't see any reasons they would feel better playing more (tough) games through the season...

I love the geniuses in here who want to deal parker. The guy puts up 22 pts and 10 dimes in a loss, so what the Spurs really need is a pass-first point guard??

It's not the piss poor interior defense, it's the lack of a pass-first point guard. Now i get it.

Chris Paul for Tony Parker.....

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Point is, it is not right to do what Spurs fans do given the circumstances. The asked the FO to make moves to try and win, and they did that. That should be enough to keep fans from completely shitting on them.

Now give them time to rectify the situation.

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I agree that we shouldn't "shit on them." But I'm honestly not seeing any of our normal (ie 'decent') posters melting down more than usual.

It's not because most are fickle (though spoiled would be slightly more accurate) - It's just discouraging to lose like we are losing.

Giving up double digit leads, not stopping teams we surely can in any kind of consistent manner, and going through confusing scoring droughts despite the most gifted offensive Spurs team ever.

Fickle was the December lameness. Now, we're a few games away from the RRT and a brutal ending stretch of schedule, with no marked and consistent improvement, especially on D, since training camp IMO.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Where did I say that and what does that have to do with anything? One question: Did the FO make moves where a reasonable person could conclude they were trying to win?

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I said trade Jefferson for Jackson two months ago or if not Jefferson trade expirings for Jackson.

How long do the Spurs want before they get it?