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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
I yhink A.Biedrins would be a good fit!
He has a poor offensive game, but who cares with Timmy next to him...
He D is realy good and it would remind me the Nesterovic Timmy combo that was really efficient!
What's your opinion?
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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Pauleta14
I yhink A.Biedrins would be a good fit!
He has a poor offensive game, but who cares with Timmy next to him...
He D is realy good and it would remind me the Nesterovic Timmy combo that was really efficient!
What's your opinion?
I think he's a bit like Camby. Block's shots but he's undersized for a C and his man-to-man D isnt that special.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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mystargtr34
I think he's a bit like Camby. Block's shots but he's undersized for a C and his man-to-man D isnt that special.
What do guys want, Wilt Chamberlain? :lol
You can't have everything. A guy with great shot blocking ability would fit in perfectly next to Tim in the starting lineup. Furthur, he's playing on a Don Nelson team that doesn't preach any kind of defense intensity. His man to man defense would pick up if he was wearing silver and black.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
You guys do remember that just 2 years ago when Andris Biedrins was healthy he was playing at a near all-star caliber level averaging 16.8pts, a league high 14.9 boards, and 1.5 blocks a contest.
Oh wait, that might actually hurt your arguments. Never mind.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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TJastal
You guys do remember that just 2 years ago when Andris Biedrins was healthy he was playing at a near all-star caliber level averaging 16.8pts, a league high 14.9 boards, and 1.5 blocks a contest.
Oh wait, that might actually hurt your arguments. Never mind.
When did that even happen anyway? Are you spewing nonsense?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...biedran01.html
And he is shooting an atrocious 11.1% from the free throw line this season.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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Chieflion
2008. I know, you probably weren't born yet.
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TJastal
2008. I know, you probably weren't born yet.
Idiot, can someone please click the damn link to clarify his stats?
10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds to be exact. What a fucking idiot. Is that you, Tacker? Spewing stats with no basis whatsoever. Looking at PER 36 stats doesn't justify your shitty claims either.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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HarlemHeat37
Raja Bell isn't an answer on the perimeter..he looked poor defensively to end last year and he didn't look good earlier this year..
I agree that we need help to defend the perimeter, but Raja Bell isn't the answer..
That's a home run opinion. :tu
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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Chieflion
Idiot, can someone please click the damn link to clarify his stats?
10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds to be exact. What a fucking idiot. Is that you, Tacker? Spewing stats with no basis whatsoever. Looking at PER 36 stats doesn't justify your shitty claims either.
I guess I need to clarify here. Those were his numbers when he was 100% healthy sometime before the all-star break.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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mosdef17
I wish Shane Battier was available...
According to Chad Ford's Insider, he just might be - for the right price:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...deWatch-100121
Shane Battier, F, Rockets
Battier is the heart and soul of Morey's Rockets. Remember, Houston traded lottery pick Rudy Gay for him in 2005, shortly after Morey's arrival, and has never looked back. While Gay has been the more electric prospect, Battier has done what Battier does: all the little things that translate into chemistry and wins. I don't think any team in the league values him the way Morey does.
That said, there have been rumblings that Battier is available for the right price. The Rockets are after a big man, and, well, isn't just about anyone available for the right price? I don't see a team making an offer that knocks Morey's socks off, but you never know
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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TJastal
You guys do remember that just 2 years ago when Andris Biedrins was healthy he was playing at a near all-star caliber level averaging 16.8pts, a league high 14.9 boards, and 1.5 blocks a contest.
Oh wait, that might actually hurt your arguments. Never mind.
Well, you have a good point, I would certainly entertain thoughts of Biedrins if the Spurs would offer Finley and half eaten bag of Doritos. But, then again, I'd hate to give up that half eaten bag of Doritos.
But, then again, we could use another big to decorate the bench.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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mosdef17
I wish Shane Battier was available...
I wish Jesus would come back as a Spurs Center/PF but reality intrudes and I wake up.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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murpjf88
Well, you have a good point, I would certainly entertain thoughts of Biedrins if the Spurs would offer Finley and half eaten bag of Doritos. But, then again, I'd hate to give up that half eaten bag of Doritos.
But, then again, we could use another big to decorate the bench.
How about Biedrins PLUS Stephen Jackson? Not that it matters now, but I wonder how good the spurs defense would be if they'd have shipped Parker and Finley (or Bonner) out for both these players. And don't tell me Don Nelson wouldn't have been creaming his pants to get another 20ppg shoot-first guard.
With a starting lineup of Biedrins/Duncan/Jefferson/Jackson/Hill. That would be a suffocating unit and then you'd have an offensive barrage coming off the bench led by Manu.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
No On biedrins..... We Need A big man with Some length. Im tired of our center Being between 6'7 and 6'9.... I would love Someone 6'11 or taller, get some length and make guys shoot over the top of them.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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TJastal
How about Biedrins PLUS Stephen Jackson? Not that it matters now, but I wonder how good the spurs defense would be if they'd have shipped Parker and Finley (or Bonner) out for both these players. And don't tell me Don Nelson wouldn't have been creaming his pants to get another 20ppg shoot-first guard.
With a starting lineup of Biedrins/Duncan/Jefferson/Jackson/Hill. That would be a suffocating unit and then you'd have an offensive barrage coming off the bench led by Manu.
Yeah, I'll bite. But the spurs would still need a back up point guard. If they could steal away Devin Harris from new jersey. I always liked Jackson, but Pop is stubborn in his ways and didn't want to bring him back.
Personally, I want Kaman.
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SpurCharger
No On biedrins..... We Need A big man with Some length. Im tired of our center Being between 6'7 and 6'9.... I would love Someone 6'11 or taller, get some length and make guys shoot over the top of them.
Biedrins is a legit 7'0", if not 7'1".
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
Here's a name many of you obviously don't remember: Rasho Nesterovic.
He was not a traditional shot blocker, but he got his share of blocks. How? By standing under the basket with both his hands straight up in the air when the defenders funneled their guy to him. It was a fairly decent system. How hard would it be to teach Theo Ratliff or Ian Mahinmi to do that? I doubt it would be terribly hard to do.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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murpjf88
Yeah, I'll bite. But the spurs would still need a back up point guard. If they could steal away Devin Harris from new jersey. I always liked Jackson, but Pop is stubborn in his ways and didn't want to bring him back.
Personally, I want Kaman.
Nelson would have thrown in Acie Law or CJ Watson for sure. He tossed in Acie Law with Jackson in the Bell/Radmanovich trade, why wouldn't he have done the same in a Parker trade?
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
I remember a game I went to where the Spurs played the Twolves and Rasho had like 8 blocks. Rasho was always a good shotblocker.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andris_Biedri%C5%86%C5%A1
His breakthrough game came in November 2006, when the Warriors beat the title favorites San Antonio Spurs 119-111. In this game, Biedriņš asserted himself against Spurs superstar Tim Duncan, only being narrowly outscored 18-22 and outrebounded 15-16,[9] but did block six shots, including three straight shot attempts by Duncan in the third quarter.
Ironic, eh?
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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bigdog
I remember a game I went to where the Spurs played the Twolves and Rasho had like 8 blocks. Rasho was always a good shotblocker.
Yes, but not what I would call a traditional shot blocker, because he didn't rely on leaping ability. He was tall and got good position, and he used a combination of good timing with the defensive system. One would think that Mahinmi could be groomed to be like Rasho with slightly better rebounding skill in the same type of defensive system.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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TJastal
Nelson would have thrown in Acie Law or CJ Watson for sure. He tossed in Acie Law with Jackson in the Bell/Radmanovich trade, why wouldn't he have done the same in a Parker trade?
Possibly, but I'm not completely sold on Hill as a point guard. He's much more productive as a shooting guard. He has proven that he can handle the point guard position short term as evidence last year, but long term, I don't know. Hill is only in his second full season, and for a team that still has championship aspirations, that's a lot of pressure.
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murpjf88
Possibly, but I'm not completely sold on Hill as a point guard. He's much more productive as a shooting guard. He has proven that he can handle the point guard position short term as evidence last year, but long term, I don't know. Hill is only in his second full season, and for a team that still has championship aspirations, that's a lot of pressure.
He hasn't proven that he can handle the point guard position at all, in my opinion. At this point he's the third best at running the offense on the team, and that's probably only because Ime Udoka isn't here anymore. It's a big question mark going forward, even if the team were playing well right now. The only thing that could be worse is if they call up Curtis Jerrels or something and think he's going to be able to run an offense.
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Re: Who's getting traded in the west (hoopsworld)
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murpjf88
Possibly, but I'm not completely sold on Hill as a point guard. He's much more productive as a shooting guard. He has proven that he can handle the point guard position short term as evidence last year, but long term, I don't know. Hill is only in his second full season, and for a team that still has championship aspirations, that's a lot of pressure.
While a playmaking point is a great asset, the lakers proved you can win a championship last year without a "true" point guard on the roster. I'll agree with you that Hill would have been thrown into a pressure cooker but the kid has shown he is tough as nails and afraid of nothing and I think he would have elevated his game to a new level. I'm not sure how Jackson and Jefferson would have meshed offensively. Like many things it looks good on paper (to me) but might have been bad in reality. Defensively however I'm 99.9% sure this lineup would have owned.
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Chieflion
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2004-05 18 GSW NBA 30 1 12.8 1.5 2.6 .577 0.0 0.0 .000 0.6 1.3 .475 1.6 2.4 3.9 0.4 0.4 0.8 0.4 2.9 3.6
2005-06 19 GSW NBA 68 2 14.7 1.7 2.7 .638 0.0 0.0 0.3 1.1 .306 1.8 2.3 4.2 0.4 0.3 0.7 0.5 2.8 3.8
2006-07 20 GSW NBA 82 63 29.0 4.2 7.1 .599 0.0 0.0 1.1 2.0 .521 3.1 6.2 9.3 1.1 0.8 1.7 1.5 3.7 9.5
2007-08 21 GSW NBA 76 59 27.3 4.5 7.1 .626 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.5 .620 3.4 6.4 9.8 1.0 0.7 1.2 1.1 3.4 10.5
2008-09 22 GSW NBA 62 58 30.0 5.0 8.6 .578 0.0 0.0 .000 1.9 3.5 .551 3.6 7.6 11.2 2.0 1.0 1.5 1.8 3.8 11.9
2009-10 23 GSW NBA 17 13 24.4 2.5 4.2 .597 0.0 0.0 0.1 1.1 .111 1.9 6.1 7.9 1.7 0.6 1.6 0.9 4.1 5.2
Career NBA 335 196 24.2 3.6 5.9 .603 0.0 0.0 .000 1.1 2.1 .521 2.8 5.4 8.2 1.0 0.7 1.3 1.1 3.4 8.3