Silver Lining as the Panic Siren Sounds

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Originally Posted by timvp

95% chance Spurs make the playoffs. What number would you put on it?

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70%, and that requires them to play better and suffer no major injuries the rest of the way.

If, however, the Spurs play the second half of the season just like the first half, even without injuries, then they'll finish with about 45-46 wins, which would give them about 25-30% chance of making the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Johnny RIngo

Lottery ain't so bad. We might even have a shot at a solid player.

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if that was Pop idea for this season then why did he trade Kirk, Fabb and Bruce if the only problem last season was that Manu was hurt, we should of kept the old team

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Originally Posted by timvp

Typically, that is the wise move. But with the Spurs having a legit window that may very well close after this season (if Manu leaves, I'd say the window is closed) or may extend one or two seasons, there really isn't a future to build toward. The Spurs have to play for the now.

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Manu off this team now would be an improvement.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

70%

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Noted :smokin

We have as good of a chance as anyone (slightly better) than most teams of making the playoffs-- and that's is the sad reality of where we are in 2010.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I'm also concerned that Pop has just lost the ability to motivate this team..

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This reminds me. Didn't Pop call out the team already, calling them soft? It looks like it went unnoticed or it didn't make the same headlines as before.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Maybe, but our big 3 are all significantly less athletic than previous years, especially Manu and Tony..when your core gets older, you expect the FO to surround them with more athleticism to make up for their drop-offs, at least IMO...

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The Spurs Big Three is also considerably less athletic that the star players on other NBA teams.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

We really don't have any athletes in the rotation other than Hill and Jefferson..the problem with RJ is that he's very slow when it comes to lateral quickness, so he doesn't even really have impressive athleticism outside of leaping..

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I've thought all year long that RJ looks a bit heavier than in years past. Maybe it's me, but perhaps that is contributing to his lack of lateral quickness.

Timvp,

I don't know which thread to put this in (I already talked about it in this one) but can we discuss why in the hell Manu was in the game at PF for that Bulls possession where Noah got the tip to go ahead 93-91. Was there not a stoppage of play/could the Spurs not have called a timeout somewhere in there? I don't understand why you don't put at least one taller guy in to get a potential game altering rebound.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Now if we can only stop Pop from playing midget ball when defensive stops are needed . . . .

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You could have just copied and pasted this from 2007 on (and still going).

Small ball is the bane of our existence.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Noted :smokin

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Uh, how exactly do you plan to prove which number is correct?

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

The Spurs Big Three is also considerably less athletic that the star players on other NBA teams.

I've thought all year long that RJ looks a bit heavier than in years past. Maybe it's me, but perhaps that is contributing to his lack of lateral quickness.

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Nah, he hasn't been laterally quick for a few years now, ever since his major injuries piled up..RJ is the EXACT same player he was in his last year in NJ and last year in Milwaukee..the FO fucked up..

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

You could have just copied and pasted this from 2007 on (and still going).

Small ball is the bane of our existence.

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As timvp mentioned, the small ball of the past (playing a SF at PF) wasn't as horrible as it is now. Pop seems comfortable rolling with four guards with a big now. It's scary bad.

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Originally Posted by timvp

It's too late. Mahinmi isn't going to be the difference this year.

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Therein lies the rub. Everyone, even the blind homers like Tpark, can see this team isn't going anywhere this season.

Why not give the kid some run? You ain't winning with him riding the pine, may as well get the kid some run...

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Nah, he hasn't been laterally quick for a few years now, ever since his major injuries piled up..RJ is the EXACT same player he was in his last year in NJ and last year in Milwaukee..the FO fucked up..

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Pretty much this. He was losing his athletic ability. I tried to gather some information from Bucks fans on RealGM. Not good defensively, lost lateral quickness and athletic ability. If we got 2005 RJ, then it would be different.

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Originally Posted by NRHector

if that was Pop idea for this season then why did he trade Kirk, Fabb and Bruce if the only problem last season was that Manu was hurt, we should of kept the old team

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You're preaching to the choir. I was never a big fan of RJ. In fact, I've been haggling my brother, for the past three years, about SJax being the missing piece for the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Therein lies the rub. Everyone, even the blind homers like Tpark, can see this team isn't going anywhere this season.

Why not give the kid some run? You ain't winning with him riding the pine, may as well get the kid some run...

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It doesn't make sense not to. Again, they aren't winning anyway, so what the hell.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

As timvp mentioned, the small ball of the past (playing a SF at PF) wasn't as horrible as it is now. Pop seems comfortable rolling with four guards with a big now. It's scary bad.

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Yeah, I caught up with his explanation of micro ball a little after that reply got posted :lol

Damn, I'd welcome us going back to the 'old' days of small ball. It's like Pop is trying to channel the bastard child of D'Antoni and Nellie out there these days.

Defensively, we simply don't have enough size, and the newly acquired players don't have the smarts either. Opposing teams make adjustments after half time, that we simply don't respond quickly enough too, or better yet predict.

Offensively, Teams have figured us out years ago, and we're not really trying to change it up, even with the new talent we've acquire at the offensive end.

I keep saying it, but I still it think it boils down to a lack of coaching depth. I'm not saying it's Pop, but I am saying we need some new blood in the assistant ranks to provide some support, fresh ideas and some creativity.

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Originally Posted by timvp

95% chance Spurs make the playoffs. What number would you put on it?

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I think 6 teams are sure to be in front of the Spurs at the end of the season

LA
Dallas
Denver
Portland
Utah
Memphis

Then there's 2 spots left for 5 teams :

San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Houston
Phoenix
New Orleans

The Spurs schedule is insane !!!
5 back to back in March... A lot of +50% teams...

I think the Spurs have a shot at the 8th seed if Oklahoma City, Houston, Phoenix & New Orleans suck BIG time the rest of the season.

For me it's 25% chance Spurs make the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

Timvp,

I don't know which thread to put this in (I already talked about it in this one) but can we discuss why in the hell Manu was in the game at PF for that Bulls possession where Noah got the tip to go ahead 93-91. Was there not a stoppage of play/could the Spurs not have called a timeout somewhere in there? I don't understand why you don't put at least one taller guy in to get a potential game altering rebound.

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Pop had a lot of chances to take the Spurs out of midget ball. The problem is that Pop wants to go small but RJ is such a soft azz player at this point that he's even worst at PF than Manu. I personally think Pop should have put in McDyess and matched him up against Deng but that makes too much sense . . .

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Uh, how exactly do you plan to prove which number is correct?

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Good question.

I'll just bump this thread when the Spurs make the playoffs. :hat

I think a lot of the guys have tuned out Pop, and with good reason. I don't understand why Tim will put up with being the only big on the floor. It's idiocy, and it's completely unfair to Tim.

Obviously Parker isn't happy with Pop, and now we're hearing that Manu may not want to re-sign.

Doesn't surprise me. Dictatorships only work for so long, and then they're overthrown...by their own people.

I just think we are fucked. We will most likely make the playoffs. But, the West is too fucking tough to not have a single round of homecourt advantage at all (which is a situation we are staring right in the face).

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Originally Posted by timvp

Good question.

I'll just bump this thread when the Spurs make the playoffs. :hat

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Uhh, which would prove nothing. :lol

The only thing that would be definitive would be the Spurs missing the playoffs. :depressed

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Manu off this team now would be an improvement.

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As Manu gets older, he's becoming more of a Horry type player.... extremely valuable for a championship type team, but can no longer consistently shoulder a heavy load.