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What good is upside or potential if it remains unrealized? If this were earlier on in the year, it would be one thing, e.g., we could look forward to the pieces slowly, albeit eventually, coming together. But, we've passed the season's midpoint, and the team is in stasis, if not regressing.
While everyone, even the haters, agrees this team has gobs of potential, but as it stands now Godot will get here quicker than Spurs Basketball (TM). To me, that makes the clouds blot out the silver lining.
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The silver lining is with Pop. If he uses the right rotations, he could significantly increase our chances at success.
But I don't see it much myself.
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Bruno
No, it isn't a silver lining.
I'm not trying to find some positives into this debacle.
The Spurs having a lot of upside isn't a silver lining?
Okay.....
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Actually, we played Bonner a lot last year, which is going semi-small (camp on the perimeter, poor rebounding, plenty of 2nd chances for the other team). It just looks like if him is not available, Pop will simply go with a freaking guard...
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timvp
The Spurs having a lot of upside isn't a silver lining?
Okay.....
Uh, No.
A silver lining would be to say that Spurs could turn things around because they have a lot of upside and that wasn't what I'm saying.
Spurs will need at least a couple of miracles to be again a serious contender. Hoping for miracles isn't seeing a silver lining.
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Bruno
Hoping for miracles isn't seeing a silver lining.
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Etymology
Noun
silver lining
1. An unexpected good outcome; especially following some bad event.
I would say that miracles are unexpected . . .
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I like the idea of a shortened rotation, but if we are trying to get better at Defense with it, it really isn't smart to have Keith Bogans out of that rotation.
Just a suggestion...
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timvp
I would say that miracles are unexpected . . .
http://www.answers.com/topic/silver-lining
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n.
A hopeful or comforting prospect in the midst of difficulty.
miracle != prospect.
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No, not really. I guess we're going to niggle over definitions instead of talking about basketball, so...
silver lining
–noun a sign of hope in an unfortunate or gloomy situation; a bright prospect: Every cloud has a silver lining.
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silver linings are for pussies
duncan cannot keep pulling this entire team's weight, the weak links simply have to step up
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Cant_Be_Faded
silver linings are for pussies
duncan cannot keep pulling this entire team's weight, the weak links simply have to step up
Yeah, those six foot three guys should have bodied Noah for that rebound. Slackers. ;)
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Boston didn't have a dominant player the year they won a title and that was only 2 years ago, and they still don't..Orlando doesn't have an offensively dominant player either..
I disagree. Pierce was a dominant player on the C's championship team. He was way more clutch than Bryant could ever hope to be. He can hit the spot-up three, put it on the floor and pull up, get to the rim, and get to the line. He can score in a a variety of ways, yet doesn't monopolize the ball. Pierce is one of the most underrated go-to guys in the history of the league.
I agree that Orlando doesn't have an offensively dominant player, but they have multiple weapons and are basically a three-point shooting team. They were also lucky to get to the Finals last year anyway, with Boston's injury to KG, and the matchup nightmare with Cleveland. That said, when he wants to, Dwight Howard can take over games on the defensive end, and he absolutely rules the paint.
My point was that this year's Spurs don't have those types of forces.
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One thing that has been made very clear this year is that teams do not fear Spurs defense at all anymore. For the last 3 years there has been an inability to get those big defensive stops when most needed.
Other than Timmy, there is no shot blocking to speak of. DB is a fantastic rebounder, but being undersized hurts his shot bocking ability imho.
Dice is a great guy, but again, not a shot blocker.
The last time the Spurs had an inside threat of any intimidation to speak of was actually when Rasho and Tim were on the floor together.
From a totally objective viewpoint, I see the Spurs having to make a move to get another big to be real contenders for a title. Does that mean I will give up on them if they don't make a move?....no way, anything can happen. As long as the Spurs can avoid certain matchups in the playoffs and have good health, anything can happen.
I'll never jump off the wagon...I was born a Spurs fan and always will be, but the writing is beginning to appear on the wall. Right now the Spurs remind me of the Cowboys after their glory days when they still thought they had the best O-line in the league, and believed they could out muscle any D-line, but in reality, they were not the same dominant team they had been before, but kept trying to be.
One more piece could really change things, but with Bonner's bum hand I think chances of working him in a deal are a bit slim. It is a shame Ian hasn't panned out the way the organization would have liked him to. I actually would have liked to see Ian tonight against the Bulls athletic youth.
The league changing from a big man's league to a sf and 2 guard league has not done the Spurs any favors either..but hey, the focus in on Kobe, Lebron, Melo and Durant...times have changed from the days of Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, and Timmy being market material.
Maybe the team comes together on the Rodeo road trip, but man, they have a boatload of road games after the Allstar break. Making the playoffs in the West is no gimmie anymore, and if Pop continues to sit Tim like he says he is going to do...ugh...I don't wanna go there.
Go Spurs Go !!
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Obstructed_View
Yeah, those six foot three guys should have bodied Noah for that rebound. Slackers. ;)
we didn't go micro ball the whole game, and if our other players that are consistently underwhelming (like rj...) were steppin up, maybe pop doesn't go all crazy with the micro ball
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Baseline
I disagree. Pierce was a dominant player on the C's championship team. He was way more clutch than Bryant could ever hope to be. He can hit the spot-up three, put it on the floor and pull up, get to the rim, and get to the line. He can score in a a variety of ways, yet doesn't monopolize the ball. Pierce is one of the most underrated go-to guys in the history of the league.
Please... the Celts got bailed out by PJ Brown and Posey when KG and Pierce where choking games and taking series to 7 games...
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I can't take this losing anymore !!!!!!!!!!! I backed this team when they were 21-61 and the year they were 20-62 so I'll never give up, but this losing sucks.
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LJ I'm fairly shocked you think that a lineup of 8 players is a good thing for the Spurs. Bonner and Finley should both be in the rotation. The Spurs will have no legs come the playoffs with an 8 man rotation.
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timvp
Midget ball is when there are four guards on the court. Before this year, I don't remember Pop ever going with four guards at the same time.
still room to increase this number. maybe 5 will work. let's just try.
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the Spurs will turn it around by spanking the Nuggets :drunk Nuggets are playing some great ball but beating a good team on the road is a different story for them.
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There is no silver lining. The worst part of it is that the Spurs rarely come out of a close game the winner.
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This team I think has a 50% chance of making the playoffs and I'm being generous.
I'm bummed.
I should be thankful for an amazing 13 year run of close to a 70% winning percentage. I almost completely forgot what mediocre basketball even looks like.
The Spurs have been the winningest team in pro sports over the last 13 years, so it is hard to stomach anything short of excellence.
Unfortunately, the Spurs truly great players are not what they used to be and teams no longer fear the Spurs.
The Bulls (including their coach) are chumps and still they raised their leg and peed on the Spurs.
Spurs fans must realize a single trade will not fix this thing. This run is over and we get to look forward to some sub .500 basketball in the very near future.
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A true silver lining would be that Pop suddenly went 8 players deep because Bogans, Bonner, Mahinmi and Finley are on the verge of being traded. :stirpot: