Their only point guard is playing for the national team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
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Their only point guard is playing for the national team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
G League is "kicking the tires."
"Taking him out for a spin" would be a call-up.
Austin Spurs
POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OREB DREB REB AST PF STL TO BS BA PTS Josh
Huestis
34SF 32 6-10 1-4 1-2 4 2 2 4 2 3 2 0 4 0 14 Ben
Moore
26PF 35 5-12 2-5 1-2 2 10 4 14 5 1 4 5 0 0 13 Drew
Eubanks
14C 29 6-14 0-0 4-4 -3 2 3 5 1 4 0 0 1 0 16 Devon
Bookert
13SG 20 0-3 0-2 0-0 7 1 4 5 4 2 0 1 0 0 0 Lonnie
Walker IV
1PG 32 10-25 0-4 8-8 4 1 2 3 4 4 3 3 0 1 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAqMZfM_d_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4F9fvHO_mc
4 blocks shots and 2 steals.. nice..Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
I know it's just one game but if Lonnie can keep this up, there is no reason why he would not be a 11th string player or so the next year.
He needs some defensive positioning as well, imo.
I am really surprised Ben Moore has not been called up at all this year
^ hard to call anyone up when we don't have an open roster spot, unfortunate situation...
Spurs get the win 117-106
Austin Spurs
POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OREB DREB REB AST PF STL TO BS BA PTS Josh
Huestis
34SF 33 4-9 2-5 0-0 16 3 8 11 4 3 1 0 1 0 10 Ben
Moore
26PF 32 5-10 2-2 2-3 12 5 6 11 4 2 2 1 1 0 14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SNgM5Y9es
Shots looking good and look like in rhythm. I’m excited for this guy to break the rotationQuote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
spurs need to get rid of forbes, mills contract and maybe ddr if he doesnt work out
3 roster spots open and tank mode? why not
Really? Not poindexter or Cunningham?Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
I would cut those two and bring huestis and moore up. And still have a spot to find another talent
There’s an open roster spot for Josh, and Moore is a two way, so he doesn’t require a spot. They could both be in SA tomorrow if the team wanted them.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi
Austin Spurs
POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OREB DREB REB AST PF STL TO BS BA PTS Ben
Moore
26SF 34 4-8 1-3 2-2 6 4 3 7 6 3 0 2 1 0 11 Josh
Huestis
34PF 32 6-15 4-9 0-0 -13 4 4 8 1 4 1 3 2 0 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYq-0MUoqI0
4-9 on 3PM is not bad. But 6-15 FGA? Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
I wish the spurs would give huestis a 10 day contract or something, see how he performs in the big league
It's the 3point percentages that are important. With all the mid-range players that Spurs have (Aldridge, DeRozan, Gay), Heustis isn't going to be asked to create offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
Spurs need DEFENSE immediately.
Where can Heustis be slotted in to be useful. Not with the starting five.
What about the bench? Mills, Belinelli, Heustis, Bertans, Eubanks
The alternatives, with Walker IV - Too small Mills, Walker, Belinelli, Bertans, Eubanks
With Cunningham - Too slow in defense Mills, Belinelli, Bertans, Cunningham, Eubanks
With PonDexter - Too small - Mills, PonDexter, Belinlli, Bertans, Eubanks
There's already a body of work with OKC to show how he plays in NBA minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Degoat
Both Huestis and Moore have NBA experience would like to see both of them get the Green light on shooting 3 and offensive game. I like Moore cause he is younger and he is consistent in that he is almost always going to get close to a double double - rebounding and scoring. Plus last game he has I think 6 assist so overall I like what he brings.
Last 3 games total:
Moore
Rebounds- 32
Assists - 12
Points- 35
Huestis
Rebounds -23
Assists - 5
Points - 39
I would like to see both on the main team replacing Dante and Quincy (who do not add anything to the team)Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
The Spurs are going to be in playoff mode from now on. Neither one of these two would get any playing time.Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Walker should be fine getting his shot off at the NBA level. Anyone who thinks he doesn't have any NBA-caliber skills hasn't watched his floor game. He's a guy who really has to become "solid" so that his more superlative traits can shine.
Wow some of those drives were impressive. Looks like he’s getting his athleticism back and getting more confident making those kind of plays.
Those moves would work in the big league
Wish he could show some of that with the parent club
Attacking the rim much more often now instead of settling for midrange Js. Definite improvement compared to earlier in the season. His shot looks great as always.
They still lost that game. But at least you see that he's got a ton of potential!Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
Under the Spurs system, WalkerIV can take that talent and refine it to be more controlled and accurate. Very promising!!
If he can shoot anywhere near the accuracy of Forbes, then he'll be golden!
Thank god for Austin. LW IV seems to have his mojo back, and he never would have played enough in SA for that to happen.
Oh, and I don’t give a flying fuck if Austin ever wins. Their purpose is to instill fundamentals in young players like Lonnie. He needs a crossover. He needs a rocker step move. He needs to learn to post up smaller players. He needs to learn both team and individual defense. That’s why farm teams exist: so any mistakes and growing pains are inconsequential.
As long as he can stay healthy he is the real deal. Yeah lots of stuff he can improve upon but he was drafted on potential meaning two or three years of G League for everything to catch up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBiZaJoyP0
Was trying to post video of LWIV and Ben Moore but no clips for gleague YT.
Austin Spurs
POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OREB DREB REB AST PF STL TO BS BA PTS Josh
Huestis
34SF 28 4-10 3-5 0-0 -1 1 4 5 1 2 0 2 2 1 11 Ben
Moore
26PF 34 6-7 1-1 4-4 33 7 10 17 2 4 1 1 1 0 17 Drew
Eubanks
14C 20 6-8 0-0 2-3 10 1 4 5 0 2 0 0 3 1 14 Lonnie
Walker IV
1SG 29 7-17 0-2 0-0 28 0 4 4 3 2 1 0 2 1 14
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Originally Posted by ace3g
Ben Moore https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/ima...smishocked.gif
Like I said before Ben Moore is going to give you a double double every game.
Huestis, moore, Walker, metu, and eubanks are all interesting future options.
I don't get why so many here think Josh Huestis has such NBA potential. His +/- stats with Austin are beyond mediocre (in the g League!). He's a net negative player on that team... there are tons of players who dominate down there and still can't secure a spot on an NBA team. DeJuan Blair has a better chance of being called up.
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Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Blair’s number won’t be called. At Whataburger, they bring the food to you. He just leaves the number at the table.
As a rotational guy he has potential. He had it early in his career and now his offensive game seems to have improvedQuote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
17 rebounds for Moore. WowQuote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
No, it hasn’t. Look at his stats, old school or analytics. They suck donky balls. Don’t be fooled by YouTube clips. They only show the good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by palangi
I’ve been wondering why they haven’t brought Moore up. He’s a two way, and wouldn’t take up a roster spot. Then, it occurred to me that they may be hiding him, so that no one else can sign him after the g-league season ends.
I don’t Think people are that high on huestis here. If you tell me who i prefer i will go with moore or eubanks. If huestis can defend on sg and sf he could be interesting but i don’t Know match about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
can you explain that please ?Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
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Originally Posted by duncan2150
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Originally Posted by exstatic
I was thinking about a rule... but you mean, as no team will see moore, nobody will make a good offer To him?
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan2150
If he’s good, why don’t they just sign him. For sure Spurs need an athletic SF who can help provide both defense and offense, especially when Gay is out. Or is he not what they’re looking for? I don’t know the rules, but is the roster fixed now going in the playoffs or can they still sign a free agent?
He's not really a SF, but more of a PF in a SF body. He's leading the ASpurs in rebounding(9.2), with more per game than Eubanks(7.7), Brimha(8.1), and Metu(7.3). I think he currently lacks the perimeter skills to play on the wing, other than shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
So they’re still looking from outside, but can they still sign? Or did that already pass? Is this the final roster going to the playoffs? Because we’re thin, and one injury away from being eliminated.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Moore won't change that. He's a d-leaguer with potential, but would immediately be the 15th man on the roster if he were signed. To have some effect on this team, he needs to go through a training camp, learn the system on both sides of the ball, and earn some PT. I think he can do it, but he won't be any help this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
Thank you. I love Eubanks getting some minutes and he’s a quicker body than Gasol. But I hope they still can get that elusive SF to defend long perimeter players, because Dante is not it.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Agree with you I really like Moore but he played a lot of Center at SMU so making adjustment to PF/SF will take time and coaching so he is perfect for G League. I like the fact that Larry Brown coached him and recruited him a nice article about Brown making him run PG duties in practice for a whole year to round out his game. He has the hops he has the Spurs character loves playing defense he just needs to work on offense side his 3 ball and mid range.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
He'll turn 24 at the end of May. If they get him into camp next year, I think he has a good shot. He has the one thing you can't teach: an understanding of the game. Larry Brown said he just always knew the right play to make. I think he can transition to the wing with a lot of hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Consider that
(1) Spurs have 3 draft picks next year
(2) There a ton of free agents available next year
(3) Pondexter, Cunningham are expiring contracts
(4) Gay will be resigned
(4) There are only 3 spots open next year
Signed players next year:
mills/murray/forbes/white/walker
derozan/belinelli/bertans
aldridge/poetl/metu
So 3 spots for draft picks, free agents and g-league openings.
2 spots for two-way contracts
Two-ways don't count against your 15 man roster. That's why they were invented, in order to pay two guys in the d-league MORE money and still get them some limited big club minutes without leaving your team short handed when they're down on the farm team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
I'm also not writing Metu's name in pen on the 15 man roster coming out of camp next fall. He's sucked pretty badly in NBA minutes, and would be a cheap cut at less than $1M. If they cut Metu, that leaves FIVE open spots, and maybe three draft picks (or less?) to go against that count.
You mean four if we sign Rudy gay and cut metu.
A lot will depends on the draft, if we take a guard it’s Sure that one of our guard will go for example.
imo one player of the actual roster will not be there next year, could be metu or other, minus pon and cun , plus 2 picks and you have Two slots for free agency.
If we don’t draft a big it’s almost a guarantee that we sign Eubanks you can tell Metu is not happy as a big with a signed contract loosing playing time to a undrafted player.
I think at this point I'd rather have Eubanks than Metu. I'm not even sure if Metu really has higher upside, Eubanks does some things pretty well from an eye test perspective.
He should work on not sucking then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
I'm wondering now what backup big the Spurs will be taking with them into the playoffs.
The only one we have Eubanks
Eubanks has been a pleasant surprise. He passes the eye test, moves very well and gets out of the way. He should continue working on cutting hard to the basket. He has quick hands and tons of energy, a poor man’s version of David Lee?
Eubanks is ineligible for the playoffs, unless his contract is converted to full NBA status by 11 April.
That Whataburger joke is so overplayed. :deadhorse:deadhorseQuote:
Originally Posted by Dverde
Thats intersting so if we do sign him what type of contract do you see us offering. I just don’t see us going into playoffs with only two big men.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Technically, in this day and age, both Rudy and Davis would be considered 'bigs'. It's not like Eubanks is gobbling up minutes, or anything. He only sees occasional spot minutes. Rotations tighten up for the playoffs, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
You have to assume injuries and being in foul trouble. Spurs are definitely short one big, unless they start playing Metu.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Dont forget Bertans. He can play post if necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Umm no. Lol...I like Bert but he would get killed playing against Cousins or Adams. I just don’t know if you sign Eubanks if you are going to bring over Nikola or be able to draft Goga or Fernando?
nahQuote:
Originally Posted by south side spur
And you think Eubanks could defend that much better than Bertans vs those 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Umm yeah Eubanks is a big boy Bert is well Bert and is not a rebounder or a post defender but he is good on perimeter
For me it’s simple I’d rather have Bertans out there instead of Eubanks regardless of the circumstances. Eubanks isn’t ready.
took this from before blairs ejection
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1QoqleWoAA-RZ6.jpg
Last Two Games Total:
Moore:
Rebounds - 25
Points- 25
Assist - 3
Walker:
Rebounds - 10
Points - 36
Assist - 3
Huestis:
Rebounds - 9
Points - 15
Assist - 3
Moore is on a two-way right? Bring him up to fill in for Gay! Wait... you mean he's also inelligible for playoff action?Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Yup. Didn't bother mentioning it before, because he hasn't been called up at all yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
Eubanks is like 6'8". Next time you look at him, subtract the hair. That's how a player with a good post game, rebounding ability, and some shot block hops goes undrafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Every place I have read is 6’10 at 250pds Ben Moore is listed as 6’8 and I know Eubanks is taller then him in person.
Moore and Heustis look to be the same height. Eubanks is on the short side for a center, I figure he's around as tall as David Lee or Nick Collison. Metu is the same height.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
A nice tradition of the Spurs in the past has been to bring up one or two of the Austin club who have earned a 10 day in the spotlight because of their development, potential, or hard work in the G League. I wonder if the tradition will be continued this year with the Spurs still working on the roster with who is available and finding a slot. I didnt read all the other pages so if someone else has brought this up, forgive me. You could refer me to your post by number.
I think a couple of guys could have been called up Nick Johnson and Ben Moore but we did bring up Eubanks and our second round pick Metu is playing in G League. I think this year with us getting DEROZZ and Poodle and signing two vets Cunningham and Poindexter limited who we could bring up.
hope so. we could really use him next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
To me Walker is a younger/shorter version of DEROZZ in that they both can take it to the rim and have great mid range game. But yet both are not great defensive players or shoot the 3 ball good at this point in Spurs career
Shots and ball handling look good and seem to be in the flow. Spurs need his athleticism. I hope they call him upQuote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
I'm nowhere near an expert on shooting form, but Huestis looks like he has a decently quick release and high release point. Nothing elite, but should be good enough for open looks.
But the numbers don't lie, he's a low 30s 3PT% shooter over a large sample. With Pop's emphasis on taking only good 3s, Huestis would have to be A+ on defense to get any meaningful minutes.
Exactly. This is also why you shouldn't put much stock into video montages. They'll never post all those 0-3s or 0-4s that bring his average down to where it is. If the Spurs are to develop a forward, it should be Ben Moore. He's a much better shooter, and a BEAST on the glass. He's also younger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
Yeah I really like Ben Moore he has made adjustments playing more Center in college then PF/SF. But he is younger has better hops and just plays within the team very Pop kinda guy works hard and doesn’t complain. Hey was not drafted but was picked up by Indiana and was decent in games he played in. I am going to go on a limb and say they sign him this summer. And if he can stalk Chip all summer and continue to work on his 3 he could really help us out next year.
Finally, some decent percentages. Call him up! Isn't there an open slot with Pau gone?Quote:
Originally Posted by r0drig0lac
Looks like Chip is gonna have a busy summer with Murray, Walker and possibly another rookie or two needing to work on their threesQuote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
Job security gotta love it.
Ben and Eubanks always getting Double Doubles
Anyone been noticing Lonnie’s improvement?? He’s been getting super efficient, and is really developing a feel for the game. He’s being smarter when to attack, make easy cuts for buckets and using his athleticism. That step back mid range is money. His three ball will fall into place too. I love his potential.
I agree he seems more confident and is starting to let things come to him you can tell the game is slowing down for him. If his improvement continues I can see him eating into Mills/Forbes/Belli minutes around all star week I am curious though how good his defense will be?
Once we swap out Cunningham & pondexter for Moore and Huestis next year things will really open u athletically/defensively. I still would like to bring Stanley Johnson in too.....
agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Atl Spur
What’s the hard on with Johnson? I used to really see potential in him but the more i watch him, the less attractive a prospect he is. Plus he thinks he’s 10 times better than he really is.
Now would I rather him over those 2 old scrubs on the end of our bench, absofuckinlutely.
Under Pop, I think he could really thrive. He has skill but his development hasn’t been handled correctly I’m thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackhaus
I don't think Huestis will make it out of camp, assuming they invite him again. He'll turn 28 before the year is out, and he's so far behind Moore, who turns 24 in May.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atl Spur
BBref shows 10 contracts for next year. Assuming you want Rudy back, that's 11. Two first rounders takes you to 13. If you want Eubanks on the big club, that's 14, leaving one slot for either Moore or Huestis. BTW, they don't show Metu on the books for next year at all. If you want him, either Moore or Eubanks can't be with the big club.