There we go. Samanic playing harder. He's working hard for rebounds.
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There we go. Samanic playing harder. He's working hard for rebounds.
The way this Austin team keeps letting the other team go up by 10 in seconds reminds me of the main team.
RENFRO WITH POELTL-LIKE DEFENSE
SAMANIC WITH THE NICE POST MOVE
Samanic forgetting to box out again
Samanic shamelessly grabbing a rebound at the buzzer to pad his stats
Nate Renfro is a beast on defense and his offense is not too bad either.
What position does he play?Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
RENFRO WITH TWO STRAIGHT BEAUTIFUL DRIVES
RENFRO IS THE ATHLETIC FORWARD WE NEED
He could easily be Rudy Gay’s replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Small forwardQuote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
He plays power forward bruhQuote:
Originally Posted by GB20
Like the line up in there right now:
Pg Tre
Sg Mathis
Sf Woodard
Pf Renfro
C Luka
You’re right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Somebody get me a Renfro Fiesta jersey...What a block!
The spurs need to sign Renfro right now. Other Nba teams are going to take him away.
He fouled that guy there but Renfro's lateral speed...man, he's a beast. He can keep up with guards easily.
Would kill me inside if Renfro turns out to be the next JaMychal Green. Not in terms of the player, but in terms of what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
Don’t want to read too much into +-, but he’s +29 in 20 mins so far...Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
Poor shot selection by Luka
He changed the whole game and that is why Austin is ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomDashCam
11:10 - 4th
ESPN+ 1 2 3 4 T WES 35 31 25 0 91 AUS 29 31 30 2 92
RENFRO WITH THE DERRICK WHITE-LIKE CHARGE
A game to forget for Samanic...
Renfro has some crazy athleticism
BruhQuote:
Originally Posted by B1gduff
Renfro >>>> Greg Brown
Get on board
We all see Renfro...you know Pop is seeing Mathis :lol
That guy Mathis can shoot.
Damn, Blake Griffin can't be stopped
Who is this Renfro of whom you speak?
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PhantomDashCam
No doubt, more so meant that +- doesn’t always tell the whole story. Does in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
Prince Nate, Renfro of ArizonaQuote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
Luka is having a rough night.
Tre looking like T.J Ford...Just a blur at times
Finally a 3 goes in for Samanic
Make that twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
More like a Tony Parker.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomDashCam
I like the T.J Ford comp as he def. more pass first than TP, no knock to either though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
TRE IS FUCKING TAKING OVER
Tre with a windmill. Wowsers! That was wild.
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Originally Posted by Dejounte
Lol bot there yet.
I can see Renfro with the tools to be a solid 3 and d guy.
Man the Spurs’s future is looking brighter and brighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Tough game for Luka, But came big at the end with the big 3s. i think ut was still a solid game, there still alot to develop and grow. Which is the scary part.
We can all agree that Nate Renfro was highlight! I can see him Being a Danny green type of player.
He's like the blocking machine version of Vassell. Vassell is the steal machine. Put both of them together and ...Quote:
Originally Posted by B1gduff
https://media.tenor.com/images/4b03d...bdda/tenor.gif
Exactly why I can't see us drafting a PG even if they're BPA in the draft this year. Our point guard rotation is set.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB20
We are definitely going for a big man in this draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
It was a different time then. I think the Spurs offered him a spot, he just realized that he would NEVER play on a Big Three era team. I don’t think Renfro would have those constraints. I think he could play minutes next year if he develops a jumper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img...ng&h=100&w=100Spurs
Starters MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS K. KelleyC 11 1-1 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 -16 2 L. SamanicF 34 7-20 3-8 0-0 4 5 9 3 0 0 2 2 +5 17 T. JonesG 32 7-14 0-0 4-6 1 6 7 9 1 0 4 1 -10 20 K. WilliamsG 24 1-5 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 -12 2 C. ReynoldsG 25 8-13 4-8 0-0 1 6 7 1 1 0 2 2 -5 20 Bench MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS N. RenfroF 27 5-7 1-2 0-0 2 2 4 4 3 1 2 5 +25 11 A. MathisG 21 8-14 6-12 1-1 0 5 5 0 0 0 0 4 +11 23 R. Woodard IIG 29 6-12 0-3 1-2 2 7 9 4 1 0 2 1 +11 13 K. JohnsonG 10 0-0 0-0 0-1 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 1 +1 0 L. PerrantesG 27 6-11 3-6 1-1 0 3 3 6 2 0 2 2 +25 17 J. MorrisG DNP-LEFT CALF K. ThomasG DNP-LEFT HAMSTRING G. Robinson Jr.G DNP-DID NOT DRESS TEAM 49-97 17-41 7-11 12 36 48 31 10 1 15 19 125 50.5% 41.5% 63.6%
I haven't been able to see many of these, but this was on NBATV.
Luka and Jones both have nice baskets of skills, will need more work.
Samanic ran against a guy in Brazdeikis who is stronger and able to disrupt him. Samanic is predictable on offense. He even seems to decide each play what he's going to do -- like go left -- and he'll do it no matter what. He has great form on his shot and can get it off whenever he wants, but there's something wrong with why it doesn't drop more often. An issue may be that he does the same with his drives -- decide beforehand that he's going to shoot -- and launches it without being in the rhythm of the offense. He did hit two important ones after scraping the front rim right before. He's not going to get so many tries on the big team. He's too easily dispossessed when dribbling or down low.
Defense, he went for about three steals that got him out of position, which isn't good, and he doesn't seem to be a rim protecting threat, but he does alright with rebounds. He's really fluid as a horizontal athlete, though. His post-up game reminds me of Rik Smits, actually, although clearly they are very different otherwise. Below the rim game dependant on footwork and length.
Jones has a ton of great aspects. He sees the floor very, very well for his age, great PG skills, and he's a good enough ballhandler to get anywhere he wants at this level -- although he does naturally carry the ball in his dribble motion, which he may get called on. So rare to find a pure point guard like him at that pick. Deceptively athletic, a nice defender, can control and handle a team's offense to get guys their shots. Seems adept at what Steve Nash did a lot, dribble the baseline through the lane to pull bigger defenders. He is a treat to pick up steals, but doesn't get out of position like Samanic does.
He needs a shot, clearly. Once he can knock down jumpers, and I expect he should on this franchise, he's a really nice guy to bring off the bench. Like his brother, a spot starter and someone you have no problem sticking in there full time if you have to. This game depended on a handful of players, but it was Jones that sealed the deal. A great competitor.
Yeah, he's really talented. Really provocative to think how he develops going forward and faces the adversity of not having things teed up for him in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Regarding Luka:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
You'd rather rein someone in than try to motivate them to do something. I like Luka's laser focus on having something in his mind and executing it rather than the opposite-- indecisiveness. IMO, it's the decisions (read and react) he makes that he needs to improve, and I think that will come in time.
I don't think it's a bad thing, but do think it makes him easier to read as a defender. It's a step toward haing a more natural, organic feel for offensive sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
IMO, Luka has that Murray trajectory, not just mentally but as far as skills. Murray didn't look like a point guard for a long time, he was a tragic turnover machine, and had no vision. Then all of a sudden, everything clicked. In the same way, Luka doesn't look like he can put it all together as a stretch big, right now looks like a tragic soft baby, and doesn't know to pass out of really bad situations. It's like static electricity with these two and you're trying to harness that into a bolt of lightning.
Then the Spurs will say, "Boom mothafucka!"
Yep I got hooked on him as soon as i watched his interview and then looked at his old playing tapeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
BruhQuote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
He's also a scholar.
https://youtu.be/bQ069IiW9P0
He's perfect.
Tre looks like a real steal for a second round pick.
Man our guard situation makes my head spin....:spin DJ, White, Mills, Lonnie, Devin, Q, Tre....where do you find minutes for all of them?
Great problem to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Yep. Not complaining. But it's interesting to see how it'll work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Well, it's a guard league right now. You can play 3 guards at a time, with Vessell and Johnson being more wings, Murray, White being more PGs, and Jones being a pure PG.
Poor Q
Great problem in this guard dominated league. The Bad Boys era had the same with their 3 guards and was blowing everybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAustex
Where does that leave Lonnie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Lonnie is a pure shooting guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Tre has that swagger, always smiling Cool-Hand-Luke attitude who will find ways to beat you. Once he starts hitting his outside shots, watch out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
Lonnie reminds me of Antonio Daniels, very athletic but quite inconsistent. He will dazzle you with his dunks, if only he could do it every night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I really like Nate he is 6'8 super athletic and as I have said several times he is 100% Spurs material - Smart - High Ball IQ - Great Character - Very Motivated - Hard Worker. His interviews give off a David and Timmy vibe I can see Pop getting attached to this kid real quick he will be a joy to coach.
I am glad he has been able to shine it sucks for a lot of these players on Spurs team that were not drafted because all the minutes and focus is on Luka, Tre, Cam, and Woodard . As fat as Nate I think he can play SF or PF it just depends on what want from him but the dude is super athletic and is definitely geared for the run and gun of the future.
Dejuante can you post - Nate Renfro Scouting Report from 2019?
Good comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
I will say that in today's NBA you can definitely run a shooting guard as a wing, especially if you get rebound production from other guards, like Murray.
I got you, famQuote:
Originally Posted by BackHome
https://youtu.be/9NQI84cn9zw
https://youtu.be/5evcQDE50LA
https://youtu.be/G-3sK42RWFc
A post above noted how stacked we are with good young guards and listed them. Dejounte said a good [problem to have. I inferred that Q is odd man out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
He didn't do himself any favors not being ready to play when he had the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAustex
I liked Q at the Bubble, a bullish big guard, a pleasant relief after our athletic guards. But Tre is looking more like Patty’s replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Yes. I meant more in terms of minutes and the rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Q is Lonnie insurance, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
I’m also rooting for this guy. I think he’s more like 6’9 with 7 ft wingspan, very athletic, prides himself on his defense. I think he leads the G-League in block category? I can see Pop getting excited with this kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Man i'm loving Tre, this kid is going to have a really solid career in the NBA I think.
Reminds me of that breakaway dunk Danny Green had late in game 1 of the 2014 Finals. I thought he was just going to lay it up and then BOOM.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
Could Renfro's ceiling be the next evolution of Bowen? He's way more athletic than Bruce, has a better offensive game than Bruce, too. He does all the little things! Good screens, hand offs, rolls well, finishes, 3pt shot which is good but can improve. Runs the break, doesn't hesitate in his defensive responsibilities, weak side help, steals, blocking, and looks like he enjoys busting his ass to shut the other team down!
He doesn't have to have the ball in his hands to effect the outcome of a game! His effort is through the roof, but it isn't sporadic or out of control. There are two videos of almost two minute highlights of Renfro and all the plays he made in a two game span, and he only scored 4 points in the two games! If I'm Q or KBD, I'm worried I'm going to get a call and be released when the G League Bubble is over! That Atlanta 4th quarter doesn't happen with players like Jones and Renfro on the floor!
Comes off the bench, same as now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Hmmmm
To get our roster count to 8 because of that COVID thing or something more??
That's my guess. Taking them out of the bubble makes little sense otherwise imo. Unless maybe they think it's time for big league minutes, but the rotation has been pretty tight already, and Gay/Mills are still on the roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Clearly they're going to assign Vassell.
Wouldn't that be hard to do with quarantining? They're already through half of the Gubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Thanks ! But I felt asleep before you gave it, it was 2AM here in France 😅Quote:
Originally Posted by B1gduff
Well, damn. The Austin game tonight is going to be no fun to watch outside of Renfro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seventyniner
I think Austin will roll with who they have, plus maybe two pool pickups from here out. There’s no time to get Sammich or Tre back in, or get Vassell in.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
How’s the OSU kid doing? Kelly? He was a block machine in college right?
I like Kenny Williams at guard, and both Cam and Mathis are quality shooters. I guess Woodard becomes the featured player now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Not great. He gets abused on switches, and is playing sparingly, although he starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
Being exposed on defense since most g league teams are playing small and they're having their way with him. He could he a decent anchor big someday, will take a couple years similar to Eubanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
Yeah, they're good but only g-league good. I try to take note of players with NBA potential. Cam maybe has a chance though.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
And Luka and Tre have been playing so well and getting the playing time, granted it’s G-League. But I would have wanted them to play the remaining games and continue with their development, not unless they get significsnt burn with the big team, which I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
I was so disappointed with Kelly. I was rooting for him, but he lacks the motor, the aggression. Plays barely go through him, and he never rolls hard after the pick. He doesn’t really call his number on offense. I thought he has some moves but rarely puts them on display. He’s not really the swat machine I thought, unlike Renfro who’s always looking to swat the ball. Very underwhelming imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
4 players tested positive, these 4 aren't coming back soon. Hope the Spurs suit up and I want to see if these two can showup against the big boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
They might get some time depending when the Spurs starts playing. We have 16 players including the 2-way players. With 4 out we are left with 12, if LMA is still out due injuries and DDR is away to be with his family, without Tre and Luka we are down to exactly 8 players.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
I'm assuming it more likely that we just need Luka and Tre since we've got players out.