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Austin Spurs

	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BS	BA	PTS
Darrun Hilliard 24	F	32	5-14	2-5	7-8	7	0	2	2	2	1	1	7	0	1	19
Jaron Blossomgame 15	F	20	4-8	0-0	0-0	-3	0	4	4	0	2	1	1	0	1	8
Matt Costello 10	C	27	4-7	0-1	2-2	-4	2	3	5	3	5	2	2	2	1	10
Olivier Hanlan 7	G	37	8-14	3-6	8-8	3	3	1	4	5	3	0	2	0	1	27
Nick Johnson 14	G	32	5-12	1-4	2-3	-4	0	1	1	2	3	1	2	0	1	13
Daniel Alexander 22		14	1-2	1-1	0-0	11	0	3	3	1	1	1	1	0	0	3
Jeff Ledbetter 8		28	9-12	8-9	0-0	15	2	0	2	3	2	3	1	0	1	26
Amida Brimah 37		10	2-2	0-0	0-0	8	2	1	3	1	5	0	1	0	0	4
Julian Washburn 25		19	0-4	0-1	0-0	6	0	4	4	0	1	0	2	1	2	0
Livio Jean-Charles 17		12	0-2	0-0	0-2	-3	1	3	4	0	2	1	0	0	0	0
Jordan Green 18		3	0-0	0-0	1-2	-1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
Tucker Haymond 19	DNP - Coach's Decision
Total	-	-	38-77	15-27	20-25	-	11	22	33	17	25	10	19	3	8	111
Percentages			49%	56%	80%

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20171108/ausrgv/

Really wish Hanlan got the two-way over Hillard. Hillard has been fine, but I don't like the message the Spurs have been sending their prospects lately. Everything from the confusion with Hanga to not playing Bertans to de Colo wanting out to them fucking up on Milutinov -- I wouldn't want the Spurs to be holding my rights right now. Hanlan and Blossomgame should have gotten the deals, or if not them a guy like Cady. That's what the deals are for: paying guys to be in the d-league who might have otherwise gone/stayed overseas.

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Really wish Hanlan got the two-way over Hillard. Hillard has been fine, but I don't like the message the Spurs have been sending their prospects lately. Everything from the confusion with Hanga to not playing Bertans to de Colo wanting out to them fucking up on Milutinov -- I wouldn't want the Spurs to be holding my rights right now. Hanlan and Blossomgame should have gotten the deals, or if not them a guy like Cady. That's what the deals are for: paying guys to be in the d-league who might have otherwise gone/stayed overseas.

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I give you Hanlan. He's been solid since summer league. Very steady hand at point, plays big, and somewhat versatile. He's kind of a jack of all trades type as a combo guard. I like his game a lot. We are set at guard for the near future so I wonder how he figures in.

Nothing too exciting in these highlights but it's good to see him being more aggressive and shooting well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyaUgSu0uvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRueIx31yEg

What's up with Blossomgame

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Really wish Hanlan got the two-way over Hillard. Hillard has been fine, but I don't like the message the Spurs have been sending their prospects lately. Everything from the confusion with Hanga to not playing Bertans to de Colo wanting out to them fucking up on Milutinov -- I wouldn't want the Spurs to be holding my rights right now. Hanlan and Blossomgame should have gotten the deals, or if not them a guy like Cady. That's what the deals are for: paying guys to be in the d-league who might have otherwise gone/stayed overseas.

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I have seen comments in SBNation that state if you are going to play in the Gleague it’s better to be a FA anyways so that you have chances to get called up by any team instead of just the one team which may not have roster spots. So Hanlan, Blossomgame and the like are f*cked. They aren’t getting the 2 way deal, they aren’t going to get called up by the Spurs when the 2 way deals are there, and other teams can’t call them up either. They are long shots unlikely to make it even if they were free, but one never knows, injuries affect teams and they start calling up gleague prospects.

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I have seen comments in SBNation that state if you are going to play in the Gleague it’s better to be a FA anyways so that you have chances to get called up by any team instead of just the one team which may not have roster spots. So Hanlan, Blossomgame and the like are f*cked. They aren’t getting the 2 way deal, they aren’t going to get called up by the Spurs when the 2 way deals are there, and other teams can’t call them up either. They are long shots unlikely to make it even if they were free, but one never knows, injuries affect teams and they start calling up gleague prospects.

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Eh, they can always go overseas. If they wanted to be free agents all they had to do was force the tender offer before the season. Playing in Austin is their choice.

Hanlan and Castello have been the guys who have stood out. The one thing on this team is that all the players are pretty decent.

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Hanlan and Castello have been the guys who have stood out. The one thing on this team is that all the players are pretty decent.

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I'm hoping that the guys with athleticism and talent learn the skills to excel in the NBA. Spurs have been able to develop lots of players like Jamychal Green and JSimms who have the athleticism and now the skills to do well in the NBA. Just too bad we couldn't keep either of them. However, I'm pretty stoked about acquiring Rudy Gay in the freemarket for cheap. I don't think you can get Rudy Gay talent coming from the G-league.

I’ve been waiting for Brimah to have a monster game. It hasn’t happened :wakeup

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I’ve been waiting for Brimah to have a monster game. It hasn’t happened :wakeup

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He's got the length that Spurs love. He could turn out to be a Dedmon clone. Which wouldn't be that bad!

The only reason I watched was to see how he would play. He didn’t play Costello started and was suprised how smart and good he was just wish he was a little taller. As far as the Bull he is like Murray to an extent talented but needs playing time and bulk up. Hopefully he gets playing time and grows to his potential

He has outside shooting, but his release is a little low. I’ve seen them get blocked. But he can defend the post, a rebounder, shot blocker and can out sprint everyone every time on fast breaks. He seems to have a good attitude. Spurs can use him

Game is about to tip off if you are bored: https://www.facebook.com/nbagleague/...5615663885289/

OH SHIT!

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OH SHIT!

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What?

Blossomgame hit a nice game winning alley-oop layup.

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What jyra said. Crazy comeback with Blossom going from goat to hero in a short period of time.

Cool

Awesome game winner. Refs were laughable.

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Austin Spurs

	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BS	BA	PTS
Darrun Hilliard 24	F	32	5-14	2-5	7-8	7	0	2	2	2	1	1	7	0	1	19
Jaron Blossomgame 15	F	20	4-8	0-0	0-0	-3	0	4	4	0	2	1	1	0	1	8
Matt Costello 10	C	27	4-7	0-1	2-2	-4	2	3	5	3	5	2	2	2	1	10
Olivier Hanlan 7	G	37	8-14	3-6	8-8	3	3	1	4	5	3	0	2	0	1	27
Nick Johnson 14	G	32	5-12	1-4	2-3	-4	0	1	1	2	3	1	2	0	1	13
Daniel Alexander 22		14	1-2	1-1	0-0	11	0	3	3	1	1	1	1	0	0	3
Jeff Ledbetter 8		28	9-12	8-9	0-0	15	2	0	2	3	2	3	1	0	1	26
Amida Brimah 37		10	2-2	0-0	0-0	8	2	1	3	1	5	0	1	0	0	4
Julian Washburn 25		19	0-4	0-1	0-0	6	0	4	4	0	1	0	2	1	2	0
Livio Jean-Charles 17		12	0-2	0-0	0-2	-3	1	3	4	0	2	1	0	0	0	0
Jordan Green 18		3	0-0	0-0	1-2	-1	1	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
Tucker Haymond 19	DNP - Coach's Decision
Total	-	-	38-77	15-27	20-25	-	11	22	33	17	25	10	19	3	8	111
Percentages			49%	56%	80%

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20171108/ausrgv/

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Hilliard's TO rate has unfortunately carried over to his stint with SAS.

Another awesome performance by Hanlan, the rightful owner of that two way.

So what are chances of seeing the front office replace any of the two way players? I not getting my hopes up but the deadline for signing two way contracts is January 15th. Hilliard has been bad and Costello hasn't even made it past one appearance so far. If he can't even get spot minutes with Lauvergne playing like trash there's no point in keeping him around.

I kind of like Landry Nnoko. I remember him playing some decent defense in his Summer League stint. He seems like a solid defensive center who isn't completely useless on the other end. I don't expect a rotation player to show up but it would be nice to have someone who can at least challenge Lauvergne for spot minutes.

Pop is saving Costello. Dude was fine with the Spurs and very good with the Toros. Hillard has been about as good as a two-way guy should be expected to be. I don't see any reason to replace either now.

Saving Costello for what exactly? Just to be clear those 45 days are counted as games played right? We are at the half way mark of the season so he should be able to play in every single remaining game if needed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hilliard has a negative PER (yeah PER sucks but that's usually a bad sign) and his defense hasn't been much better for a guy who is supposed to be solid on that end. I don't want to judge him prematurely but he has shown nothing so far.

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Saving Costello for what exactly? Just to be clear those 45 days are counted as games played right? We are at the half way mark of the season so he should be able to play in every single remaining game if needed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hilliard has a negative PER (yeah PER sucks but that's usually a bad sign) and his defense hasn't been much better for a guy who is supposed to be solid on that end. I don't want to judge him prematurely but he has shown nothing so far.

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Costello has already used a few days even though he's only played one game. It's not just games; it's technically any day they are with the team, so road trips would likely include all the days the team is gone, for example.

I see. So he is just injury insurance at this point, that's a shame.

Recent production of Blossomgame

Match Up	W/L	MIN	PTS	FGM	FGA	FG%	3PM	3PA	3P%	FTM	FTA	FT%	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	+/-
JAN 15, 2018 - AUS @ MNE	L	35	17	7	14	50.0	1	2	50.0	2	2	100	0	3	3	2	2	1	1	2	-12
JAN 12, 2018 - AUS vs. WIS	L	36	14	5	14	35.7	1	4	25.0	3	3	100	4	3	7	2	1	0	2	1	-1
JAN 10, 2018 - AUS @ WCB	W	33	26	7	10	70.0	1	2	50.0	11	13	84.6	0	6	6	0	1	0	2	4	5
JAN 07, 2018 - AUS @ WES	L	34	18	7	11	63.6	2	3	66.7	2	2	100	1	12	13	0	1	0	2	3	-4
JAN 02, 2018 - AUS @ LIN	W	26	11	5	10	50.0	1	3	33.3	0	0	0.0	1	7	8	1	1	0	1	0	1
DEC 31, 2017 - AUS @ RAP	L	31	18	7	13	53.8	0	1	0.0	4	4	100	2	2	4	1	0	1	1	1	-7
DEC 28, 2017 - AUS vs. LAK	W	29	18	8	13	61.5	0	1	0.0	2	3	66.7	4	6	10	0	0	1	1	2	7
DEC 22, 2017 - AUS @ MHU	W	23	20	9	12	75.0	0	1	0.0	2	2	100	1	1	2	2	1	0	2	1	16
DEC 21, 2017 - AUS vs. ACC	L	27	21	8	10	80.0	3	4	75.0	2	3	66.7	0	4	4	2	1	1	2	2	-2
DEC 17, 2017 - AUS vs. CTN	W	30	11	5	9	55.6	0	0	0.0	1	2	50.0	3	10	13	0	1	1	1	2	-10
DEC 15, 2017 - AUS vs. RGV	W	31	16	7	11	63.6	0	0	0.0	2	2	100	2	5	7	3	1	1	1	0	18
DEC 10, 2017 - AUS vs. SCW	W	23	13	6	13	46.2	0	2	0.0	1	1	100	3	4	7	0	0	0	1	0	10

	AGE	GP	GS	MIN	PTS	FGM	FGA	FG%	3PM	3PA	3P%	FTM	FTA	FT%	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF
2017-18 Season:	24	27	26	29.5	15.9	6.6	12.1	0.544	0.6	1.6	0.372	2.1	2.7	0.778	2.2	5.7	7.9	1.3	1	0.3	1.4	1.8
Career:		27	26	29.5	15.9	6.6	12.1	0.544	0.6	1.6	0.372	2.1	2.7	0.778	2.2	5.7	7.9	1.3	1	0.3	1.4	1.8

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Need to call him up already..
Get rid of Anderson.

Spurs win 113-105


USTIN SPURS

	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BS	BA	PTS
Jaron Blossomgame 15	F	30	9-15	0-2	3-4	20	4	8	12	2	2	1	3	0	0	21

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180118/NASAUS/

I'd like to see Blossomgame, Brihma, and Hilliard called up.

https://youtu.be/5IqCcy1CfRY

Blossom needs to get more defensive stats. His offense isn't superlative enough to be NBA-caliber yet. The rebounding is really nice, but he needs the blocks and steals to go along with them, or else he's an awkward niche player. He's not an elite athlete either.

I can't tell if you are talking about Jaron Blossomgame or Danny green? Your irreplaceable player.
Sure he doesn't get blocks like green but he does rebound (you can't down play this) much better than green. He is getting steals at an equal rate to green. But here is a huge difference... Blossomgame can dribble and make layups!

And I bet you would see his blocks go up if he was playing SF/SG and not just PF like he is in Austin.

he is certainly more "ready" for the NBA, than half of the current roster, for the simple fact of having athletics and size of a real basketball player

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net...e8&oe=5AE0AA0B


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Spurs have assigned Brandon Paul & Derrick White to the Austin Spurs. Both will be available for tonight's game against Grand Rapids - watch it at 7 on Fox Sports Southwest.

AUS Spurs won 124-83 tonight

Austin Spurs

	POS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	+/-	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BS	BA	PTS
Derrick White 4	F	26	6-15	1-6	8-8	13	1	5	6	5	1	1	1	0	1	21
Jaron Blossomgame 15	F	22	7-12	0-1	1-3	6	1	4	5	0	1	0	0	1	0	15
Livio Jean-Charles 17	C	23	4-9	0-0	0-0	5	2	6	8	0	5	0	3	0	0	8
Olivier Hanlan 7	G	28	9-17	4-5	3-3	30	0	3	3	2	2	0	0	0	1	25
Nick Johnson 14	G	26	1-7	0-0	3-4	19	3	3	6	4	0	1	1	1	2	5
Amida Brimah 37		24	1-2	0-0	0-0	34	4	4	8	1	4	0	3	0	0	2
Julian Washburn 25		26	5-8	3-6	0-0	36	2	8	10	4	0	0	2	0	0	13
Jeff Ledbetter 8		26	8-15	4-9	0-1	15	1	4	5	6	2	3	2	0	0	20
Tucker Haymond 19		12	2-5	2-3	0-0	13	0	0	0	4	4	2	1	0	0	6
Jordan Green 18		15	2-3	0-1	2-4	23	0	0	0	3	1	2	1	0	0	6
Daniel Alexander 22		6	1-1	0-0	1-1	11	0	2	2	0	2	0	1	0	0	3
Matt Costello 10	DNP - Coach's Decision
Darrun Hilliard 24	DNP - Coach's Decision
Total	-	-	46-94	14-31	18-24	-	14	39	53	29	22	9	15	2	4	124
Percentages			49%	45%	75%

White needs extended time in the d-league so we can see what they have in him. That's a decent but not great line from him. He should be almost threatening a triple-double there by the time he's an NBA-caliber rotation player. As I've said before, I really would like see Blossomgame pick up more defensive stats with the Toros. He's not making in the NBA on his offense alone. Hanlan has been pretty streaky this season. It's a damned shame he has not path at all to a rotation spot. He'd be a good Forbes replacement next season.

I haven’t watched these games but noticed that apparently Spurs have White playing the 3, as a wing and not a PG... makes sense with Pop committing to Murray/Parker/Mills that they are moving White to the wings, Hmm

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I haven’t watched these games but noticed that apparently Spurs have White playing the 3, as a wing and not a PG... makes sense with Pop committing to Murray/Parker/Mills that they are moving White to the wings, Hmm

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White is not even big enough to guard NBA 2s, though he’d make a good combo guard.

Poop’s midget fetish has gone too far.

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I haven’t watched these games but noticed that apparently Spurs have White playing the 3, as a wing and not a PG... makes sense with Pop committing to Murray/Parker/Mills that they are moving White to the wings, Hmm

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microball,Pop going against basketball logic

only player less than 6'6 '' in gsw is the greatest shooter of all time, the best team of the 80's had Magic (6'9 '') Whorty (6'9 '') AC Green (6'9 ") and KAJ (7'2") in his s5 and Spurs with a bunch of dwarves that can be explored by intelligent and athletic teams

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I'd like to see Blossomgame, Brihma, and Hilliard called up.

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They have a full roster of 15, plus their 2 two way contracts. They can’t call up anyone but Hilliard and Costello with cutting someone, and they’re not cutting someone for a look-see.

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I see. So he is just injury insurance at this point, that's a shame.

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The perspective is that the two way contracts are your 16th and 17th man, and no other team wanted them on their roster this year. Don’t expect anything.

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I can't tell if you are talking about Jaron Blossomgame or Danny green? Your irreplaceable player.
Sure he doesn't get blocks like green but he does rebound (you can't down play this) much better than green. He is getting steals at an equal rate to green. But here is a huge difference... Blossomgame can dribble and make layups!

And I bet you would see his blocks go up if he was playing SF/SG and not just PF like he is in Austin.

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He’s doing all that in the frikkin g-league, which is probably below NCAA competition. Danny Green was a god in the d-league.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...reenda01d.html

With the gleague expanding teams so quickly I have wondered if the talent level aside from the 2 way contracts and assignments, is watered down.

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With the gleague expanding teams so quickly I have wondered if the talent level aside from the 2 way contracts and assignments, is watered down.

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I'd think that it's getting better considering guys are more amenable nowadays to actually playing in that league rather than going overseas.

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I disagree. The g-league is really only beneficial if you think you have a shot THIS YEAR. The money and competitive level are FAR higher in Europe. Standard g-league money is like 30K. You can easily make ten times that much in Europe, and the competition is better. If you’re not on a teams radar, the best way to get there is Europe. They’ll actually coach you, teach you, and play you in the second best league in the world, if you make Euroleague. Even Eurocup is better competition than the g-league.

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White needs extended time in the d-league so we can see what they have in him. That's a decent but not great line from him. He should be almost threatening a triple-double there by the time he's an NBA-caliber rotation player. As I've said before, I really would like see Blossomgame pick up more defensive stats with the Toros. He's not making in the NBA on his offense alone. Hanlan has been pretty streaky this season. It's a damned shame he has not path at all to a rotation spot. He'd be a good Forbes replacement next season.

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i dont think we need a forbes replacement. he's already redundant with mills... and they'll try to give white a shot at minutes at the 2

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i dont think we need a forbes replacement. he's already redundant with mills... and they'll try to give white a shot at minutes at the 2

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I don't think we'll see all five of the top guards back next season. But even if they do have them all, Forbes walking and Paul being a possible cut makes getting another guard a good play. Hanlan wouldn't cost a pick and is under team control for three years. I think they could lock him in for a Neal-like deal and have him through the ends of everyone's contracts. One of the team's big problems recently is that they haven't been able to keep players who are outside their top 10 for more than two seasons. That's made "next man up" significantly harder. If you have a chance to get long-term deals for cheap players with upside and marketable skills, you do it and let everything sort itself out later.

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I disagree. The g-league is really only beneficial if you think you have a shot THIS YEAR. The money and competitive level are FAR higher in Europe. Standard g-league money is like 30K. You can easily make ten times that much in Europe, and the competition is better. If you’re not on a teams radar, the best way to get there is Europe. They’ll actually coach you, teach you, and play you in the second best league in the world, if you make Euroleague. Even Eurocup is better competition than the g-league.

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I mean in general guys are not completely adverse to playing in the G-League now. Guys don't see it as much of a joke as before so the league is picking up more of that talent.

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I don't think we'll see all five of the top guards back next season. But even if they do have them all, Forbes walking and Paul being a possible cut makes getting another guard a good play. Hanlan wouldn't cost a pick and is under team control for three years. I think they could lock him in for a Neal-like deal and have him through the ends of everyone's contracts. One of the team's big problems recently is that they haven't been able to keep players who are outside their top 10 for more than two seasons. That's made "next man up" significantly harder. If you have a chance to get long-term deals for cheap players with upside and marketable skills, you do it and let everything sort itself out later.

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when the "next man up" is an undersized shooter, i'm not terribly worried about finding the next one

Just saw some highlights of the last game in Utah. White's work with Brimah is encouraging for both players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INSA_kMVevM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QEKtY2lpKQ

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i dont think we need a forbes replacement. he's already redundant with mills... and they'll try to give white a shot at minutes at the 2

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More like top 8, which means we are constantly bringing in new faces to be regular rotation guys.

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Just saw some highlights of the last game in Utah. White's work with Brimah is encouraging for both players.

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Nice looking jumper and better finishes in the paint than Dijon who has no touch around the rim when he's contested. I don't know how much of that he can translate but he looked good.

Next Toros game tomorrow night against the Sacramento Kings at the AT&T Center.

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Nice looking jumper and better finishes in the paint than Dijon who has no touch around the rim when he's contested. I don't know how much of that he can translate but he looked good.

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Seems to me that Dijon's touch around the rim - even when contested - is one of the better aspects of his game.

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Seems to me that Dijon's touch around the rim - even when contested - is one of the better aspects of his game.

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Still not very good. most if his baskets are hustle plays, transition baskets or o boards. In the Cavs game he was wide open under the rim since IThomas was "guarding" him. His floater is kind of an adventure. But in comparison to his jumper....

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Seems to me that Dijon's touch around the rim - even when contested - is one of the better aspects of his game.

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Seems like a grave insult to Murray.

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Seems like a grave insult to Murray.

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Haha! It is what it is. His game in toto is just wildly inconsistent - except for rebounding. I think there is almost as good a chance that he will grow by 6" and 80 lbs into a PF as there is he will develop an NBA PG's skills.

Spurs beat the Warriors!!!

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180128/AUSSCW/

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Spurs beat the Warriors!!!

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180128/AUSSCW/

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Man, are we struggling to find things to celebrate this season!

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Spurs beat the Warriors!!!

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180128/AUSSCW/

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Spurs beat the Warriors!!!

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180128/AUSSCW/

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Good game from LJC too.

I'd like to see the Brimah kid brought up and used like Capela. He is looking athletic and a great shot blocker.

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I'd like to see the Brimah kid brought up and used like Capela. He is looking athletic and a great shot blocker.

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Don't get your hopes up too high. Capela is playing his 4th season as a NBA player and he is still younger than Brimah by a couple of months. You can't reasonably expect Brimah to catch up on that development time any time soon.

I finally saw a full game, I'm in board the Brimah express.

Call him up. It's too bad the deadline for adding two way players has passed. I don't see any NBA future for Hilliard.

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I finally saw a full game, I'm in board the Brimah express.

Call him up. It's too bad the deadline for adding two way players has passed. I don't see any NBA future for Hilliard.

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He was an odd signing. The Spurs clearly seem to be using the two-ways in a different way than I think they were intended, and it kind of sucks. I thought the contracts were supposed to be a way to keep prospects in the States rather than having them go overseas. But the team is just using the contracts as 16th and 17th men while having guys like Hanlan and Blossomgame on d-league deals. The league and union likely agreed to this to get around situations like Cady and Huestis (not that the latter could have signed a two-way deal anyway). I have no idea why Jaron's and Olivier's agents didn't push for the bigger deals. But SA has always been underratedly shitty when it comes to contracts.

Other teams have 2017 second rounders on two-ways, I see no good reason to keep Blossomgame in poverty on g-league wages. Hanlon I don't care about, he was just the necessary flotsam to get Diaw off the books.

Blossomgame agreed to this. He could've forced his tender offer last fall had he wanted it.

Brimah continues to dominate the league in blocks. Bring his ass up and cut Joff

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Don't get your hopes up too high. Capela is playing his 4th season as a NBA player and he is still younger than Brimah by a couple of months. You can't reasonably expect Brimah to catch up on that development time any time soon.

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he's about to turn 24. he doesn't have to match Capela (a good starting center) in order to help our squad (as a reserve center). i mean, if he can give us some of what dedmon did, that would still be a massive upgrade to joff...

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Other teams have 2017 second rounders on two-ways, I see no good reason to keep Blossomgame in poverty on g-league wages. Hanlon I don't care about, he was just the necessary flotsam to get Diaw off the books.

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I'm not sure Hanlan was considered flotsam by PATFO. He was a mid-second-rounder. The Jazz could have easily given a top-55 protected pick instead like Atlanta did. I'd go as far as to say the Spurs cared more about Hanlan than they did about Blossomgame.

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I'm not sure Hanlan was considered flotsam by PATFO. He was a mid-second-rounder. The Jazz could have easily given a top-55 protected pick instead like Atlanta did. I'd go as far as to say the Spurs cared more about Hanlan than they did about Blossomgame.

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If the Spurs do like him that much I don't see why. He seems like a decent player for Europe, nothing remarkable about him to make him NBA caliber.

I would support cutting or trading Brandon Paul with someone else to make room for Brimah.

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I would support cutting or trading Brandon Paul with someone else to make room for Brimah.

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Couldn't we just unload Costelo or Hillard for Brimah? Both these two are redundant.

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Couldn't we just unload Costelo or Hillard for Brimah? Both these two are redundant.

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Nah. The deadline for two-way deals has passed. Before that, yes.

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Nah. The deadline for two-way deals has passed. Before that, yes.

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I've never understood though the two signings. I guess Hillard is a Manu sub (being a left and the same size). But who does Costello replace, isn't he just a sub for Lauverne?

When is Cady Lalanne going to get his shot at stardom? His time is now!

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I'm not sure Hanlan was considered flotsam by PATFO. He was a mid-second-rounder. The Jazz could have easily given a top-55 protected pick instead like Atlanta did. I'd go as far as to say the Spurs cared more about Hanlan than they did about Blossomgame.

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They certainly have been taking flyer after flyer on guards... I lt wouldn’t surprise if they had genuine interest in Hanlan, they also traded for Ray MacCallum once.

Nothing for it against Hanlan. Don’t know what chances he really has above Hilliard. Any chance they sign Hilliard in the offseason? I have wondered about the destiny of these prospects some specially in light of the potential Kiwi supermax

Spurs win again.

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180129/AUSRNO/

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Spurs win again.

http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180129/AUSRNO/

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Need to call up Blossomegame!!
Get rid of Anderson!!

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I was worried about him at the beginning of the season he wasn’t getting much playing but that has slowly changed. One huge reason we could see his numbers go up is that White does a great job of getting into the paint and handing nice passes for easy dunks. Well I shouldn’t say easy as you know how many Spurs players have screwed that up Errors , Paul ext. I agree he is going to need another year of gaining muscle him and Murray better be lifting pals this whole summer. Take some damn protein shakes and Creatin for Gods sake. But I think he can make the team as far as getting some playing time next season I do love his blocking ability

i would also also have to say that Castillo has played good and is a better rebounder and in all honesty he is better then LVg. The only problem he has is his height I think he is 6”9 or “10. Which is to small

LJC is showing some signs of life in these last couple of games, strong rebounding and improved touch on mid range shots. He has played as the starting C in the games where Costello is not with the team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S8jxuNPh10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgZcwQ2W5og

Brimah also with another good outing: 7-7 from the field, 6 blocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxV59Rnx_Yk

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Livio looking legit. Finally appears more confident and comfortable out there. Glad to see him letting his midranger fly again too.

I am loving what White is doing which is getting easy shots for his team mates. He is going to be good he understands the game and he feeds guys when they are hot the Toros bigs got to love him.

suprised to see Luvio and Brimah playing so we’ll together add White and Hanlan and that is starting to be a very good team.

I think the Spurs really like white; he’s a true point guard

Why is the heck is White not getting any court time for the Spurs.

I've seen enough of the trash Pop is trying to play. I don't give a shit if he's a rookie. Play the man.

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Why is the heck is White not getting any court time for the Spurs.

I've seen enough of the trash Pop is trying to play. I don't give a shit if he's a rookie. Play the man.

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It's a good question.

White isn't that big, but at least he's not a hobbit like the other scrubs Pop is rolling out

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Livio looking legit. Finally appears more confident and comfortable out there. Glad to see him letting his midranger fly again too.

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Livio is actually moving like a basketball player again. Looked like a senior citizen out there for so long. There's a notable spring in everything he does.

Seeing Brimah's speed on that last fastbreak was great. Wouldn't be surprised to see both of them in camp next fall if Brimah isn't scooped up by some other team.

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Why is the heck is White not getting any court time for the Spurs.

I've seen enough of the trash Pop is trying to play. I don't give a shit if he's a rookie. Play the man.

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Because Poop loves his hobbits. Especially when paid $50 million to hoist up bricks.

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I am loving what White is doing which is getting easy shots for his team mates. He is going to be good he understands the game and he feeds guys when they are hot the Toros bigs got to love him.

suprised to see Luvio and Brimah playing so we’ll together add White and Hanlan and that is starting to be a very good team.

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This Austin Spurs team may even be good enough to beat that other Spurs team with midget lineups.

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This Austin Spurs team may even be good enough to beat that other Spurs team with midget lineups.

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Oh god no. One of Gasol/LMA and the shortest players on the team for the rest would annihilate the Toros.

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It's a good question.

White isn't that big, but at least he's not a hobbit like the other scrubs Pop is rolling out

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White is 6'4" how is that not very big?

Something I like about Brimah is he is willing and able to make competent NBA passes. He's not a Yinka Dare or Whiteside like a lot of fringe bigs.

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White is 6'4" how is that not very big?

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As far as a shooting guard, which is what he would play if Pop played 48 minutes of Murray and Parker. Green is 6-6, Manu 6-6, Simmons was 6-6, etc etc.

And with his tall hair and Kyle-sized head, i don't buy him as a big 6-4, but a small 6-4.

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As far as a shooting guard, which is what he would play if Pop played 48 minutes of Murray and Parker. Green is 6-6, Manu 6-6, Simmons was 6-6, etc etc.

And with his tall hair and Kyle-sized head, i don't buy him as a big 6-4, but a small 6-4.

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Well he measured 6'4.5" with a 6'8" wingspan. Plenty big enough

Isn’t he a PG? But yeah Pop got to figure out what he is going to do with all of these PG/SG.

Tony - Clearly no longer starter material but still a decent savvy vet
Mills - A small SG who game is only three ball who has a big contract but a good character guy but a bad defender
Forbes - Another small SG who has a good three ball and decent handles with a mid range game so so defender
Murray - Is the exact opposite of the top three very athletic great rebounder but a terrible shooter also very good defender

White - I think he has very good ball handling skills second only to tony he I think a better passer and creator at this point. I think he is can get minutes at PG or SG but I would play him at PG.