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Re: Must read: new Manu article
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timvp
Damn never saw that one! though I love to learn that when i visit San Antonio next, the Ellis'es would love to get a couple of boxes of those :toast
Maybe we should do a raffle or some sort of contest and I'll even ship them from here to the winner wherever he/she is!:flag:
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ElNono
Gracias... I was just finished when I got your email... :pctoss
:lol
lol I saw your post on here two after mine and was close to send you an email to stop you... Sorry :blush
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Originally Posted by
hater
Uru, don't forget Manu's pronunciation:
Rosher Mason
Shorshe Hill
and don't forget to add a che and a boludo once in a while. entendes?
Si, señorita... :lol
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timvp
I literally brought 6 boxes of Havanna with me last September from my last trip... 3 Alfajores, and 3 Havannets...
Never tried the Malt, I'm a coffee guy... :lol
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
I literally brought 6 boxes of Havanna with me last September from my last trip... 3 Alfajores, and 3 Havannets...
Never tried the Malt, I'm a coffee guy... :lol
Nono, te recomiendo para la proxima que te lleves los alfajores El Cachafaz.
Son mejores que los Havanna.
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Re: Must read: new Manu article
Great read. Thanks for the translation. :)
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My neighbor friend's dad used to keep a bunch of those Malta Goyas stashed in the fridge. As is typical with kids, we would occasionally sneak one, drink it, hate it, but still feel cool for finishing it.
Maybe I've acquired the taste for it over the past 15 years...but I doubt it. :vomit:
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on a side note... Uruguayan Alfajores >>>>>>>>>> Argentinean ones :stirpot:
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Thanks, urunobili. :tu
Very good news that Manu says he's feeling so good physically. Hopefully with more confidence and rhythm, he'll be able to return to the level of play we've all come to expect.
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Even more the further we get with the Spurs this year the biggest my salary is going to be next.
That's an un-Manu-like quote. I never thought I'd see the day Manu would say he wants to win so he can get more money.
As I've said previously, Manu is being a bit of a drama queen about his contract situation. He could have already received his extension if that was what he wanted -- but he decided to play for his NT instead. That was his decision and he should just live with the consequences. Contract extensions are pretty rare -- and are unheard of for players who have gone through two straight injury plagued season.
I can't imagine a situation in which I wouldn't want Manu back next season. And really, there isn't much reason for Manu to be worried about it. He'll be a free agent in what promises to be one of the best summers in NBA history for for free agents. He's going to get a good contract. Maybe not as good as the extension the Spurs offered, but again that's the risk Manu took when he played for the NT.
Instead of continuously talking about your contract situation and how you had an epiphany about not necessarily being a Spur for life or whatever, concentrate on becoming the dominant Manu we all know and love. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by
MB20
Nono, te recomiendo para la proxima que te lleves los alfajores El Cachafaz.
Son mejores que los Havanna.
When you've been without Alfajores for a year, anything is AWESOME...
But I'll try Cachafaz next time... :tu
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timvp
That's an un-Manu-like quote. I never thought I'd see the day Manu would say he wants to win so he can get more money.
As I've said previously, Manu is being a bit of a drama queen about his contract situation. He could have already received his extension if that was what he wanted -- but he decided to play for his NT instead. That was his decision and he should just live with the consequences. Contract extensions are pretty rare -- and are unheard of for players who have gone through two straight injury plagued season.
Well, I think he pretty much added that whole thing because as he commented on the article, people come as ask him about it. I'm sure it probably was pretty hectic last wednesday when the Amare rumor came up.
And on a side note, as far as injury plagued goes, it was just one season.
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timvp
I can't imagine a situation in which I wouldn't want Manu back next season. And really, there isn't much reason for Manu to be worried about it. He'll be a free agent in what promises to be one of the best summers in NBA history for for free agents. He's going to get a good contract. Maybe not as good as the extension the Spurs offered, but again that's the risk Manu took when he played for the NT.
I think the FO is doing what's sensible and waiting out on it to see what his health looks like. There's no reason for the FO to hurry right now.
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Thanks for the translation, nice to know that Ginobili is actually keeping his calm, definitly seemed like in the past few games he was playing with anger. I mean, he's always been an aggressive and passionate player, but it seemed different to me anyway. His intangibles, passing, IQ, playmaking and defense are all there, he just needs time to get his shot back, and I'm confident he will do just that.
I agree with what he said about the chemistry in the team. It really seems like all the guys are class acts, so the locker room should be no different, and we all know the coaching staff has a good relation with the players as well. Spurs should definitly be higher in the standings, and it's obviously taken a much longer time for them to gel, and I'm still not sure we'll be able to see 100% games from the whole team before the playoffs, and maybe not even this season at all, but I'm certainly hoping for it. The flashes have been there, and this last game against atlanta could have very well been our most complete effort this season, so there are certainly good signs.
When looking at his contract situation, I always try to stay positive but I realize like he does that if things don't go according to plan this season, anything really is possible. With that said though, if the spurs just let manu walk who can they really sign for that amount that will be able to bring to the spurs what Manu can? I just don't see it, and I think not extending him was solely due to possibility of longer lasting injury. Either way, Manu's got the right idea not caring too much about that now and focusing on what's important: getting his groove back and doing everything possible to get the spurs over the hump.
PS: No I didn't realize he asked for a translation, I'm having a bad morning after an exam, frustrated that I couldn't read the article and my bad for snaping guys lol
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As an addendum, I'll just post my version of the translation here, since I already did it. Urunobili's should be the 'official' version...
"I'm more mentally open to the possibility of a change of team"
In his regular column for La Nacion, Manu Ginobili talks about the end of his contract with the Spurs and the chance to be a free agent after the playoffs. "I feel very good physically", he said.
Here I am, eating an alfajor (ED: classic Argentina's sweet cookie) and ready to share with you all a few things. lot of people from Argentina came over lately and I have my pantry full of my favorite cookie. I accept any kind of Alfajores! jeje.. After beating Altranta last wednesday night we're a lot happier because it was already historical what was happening to us: 5 losses in 6 games and the last 3 at home.
A very rare situation that we're finding difficult to find a solution to. It's not q chemistry situation of the group or a style of play, plus the camaraderie and relationships inside the locker room keep being amazing. What's happening is that we play very well for stretches and we hit every shot, like against Atlanta where we scored 66 points in the 1st half and then we fall off a cliff, lose confidence, we get a mental block and perhaps we start playing selfish basketball. It really costs us a lot to find a response to those drops in performance. And what's strange is that they normally happen returning from the locker room right after the half. Well, in last year's playoffs against New Orleans, we lost the 3rd quarters for 6 games straight. That was unusual.
And it's not about waiting for the stars to align and favor us, we have to defend harder, attack the rim more and put forth twice the effort. If you noticed that I've been playing a little harder these last few games it's because I feel great physically and I assume a big responsibility to turn this around. Even though against Atlanta I missed quite a bit, I didn't think I played bad and it's not something I'm worried about. It's a matter of confidence, they'll go in eventually. The important thing is that I feel strong, agile and very energetic.
If we look at the standings for the Conference (6th, with a 26-18 record), our situation doesn't look too worrisome because we're only 4 losses behind the 2nd in the West (Denver, 31-14); what's complicated is that we still have 24 games on the road and only 14 at home to end the regular season. In February and march we're almost not going to play in San Antonio.
Next Wednesday we start the traditional Rodeo road trip with 8 games on the road. And even though this moment historically worked to solidify the team and get out of a crisis or two, we can't just rely on that because the first 5 games are going to be against very difficult teams, among them Portland, the Lakers and Denver.
I feel like we let a great opportunity pass us by when the season started and we should have 5 less loses at this point.
Somebody told me yesterday that it looked like I was playing pissed off, very engaged and he was referring to my contract situation or the possibility of not getting an extension with the Spurs. None of that! I don't play with any resentment or revenge spirits. I don't even feel I'm playing any different. I'm just very well physically, and I want to win and get another championship. Furthermore, the farthest we get with the Spurs the better my salary will be next season.
So everybody can understand, let's clear up that up until a few months ago I was waiting and I was worried about not getting a contract extension offer, but not anymore. I'm more relaxed in that area. I don't expect to be renewed before June 30th, when our current contract expires. We'll see what happens in July.
Two years ago I thought my career was going to end in San Antonio, but now I'm more mentally open to the possibility of a change of team. If you look at the history of the NBA, very few players had their entire career on the same franchise. They're the rules of the game. This season the Spurs were built to win the championship and if the objective is not met, anything can happen. They can make changes to go for it again next season.
There's a lot of rumors and they'll grow as we approach mid-year because like almost never in the history of the NBA there will be a big pool of stars that will be free agents July 1st, like Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire and a bunch of teams have saved money to make a big move. I was just involved in a trade rumor with Phoenix for Stoudemire, but I don't see the benefit for either team to rent a player for 6 months.
I repeat, I don't know what's going to happen. I'm open to any possibility. If I have to leave San Antonio I wouldn't mind the change. I would talk about it with my wife (luckily the twins wont have an opinion.. yet) and we'll evaluate the possibilities; It will definitely hurt to leave a history of 8 years in this city, where I was always very comfortable.
For now, nobody can talk about official negotiations until July, it's prohibited. So we'll have to wait, try to play as best as possible and especially try to regain some ground with my team. I hope we can do that in the next couple of difficult games that are coming up.
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I would hate to see Manu leave the Spurs :bang
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Re: Must read: new Manu article
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Well, I think he pretty much added that whole thing because as he commented on the article, people come as ask him about it. I'm sure it probably was pretty hectic last wednesday when the Amare rumor came up.
Every article regarding Manu I've read lately has him talking about his contract. But yeah, this week he has a legit excuse to talk about it.
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ElNono
And on a side note, as far as injury plagued goes, it was just one season.
Good point. I should have specified the end of the two seasons.
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timvp
Every article regarding Manu I've read lately has him talking about his contract. But yeah, this week he has a legit excuse to talk about it.
You also have to understand that the Argentina's media sees him and the NBA in a very different vein than you or me. Ginobili is the best player Argentina ever produced. And loyalty is not an uncommon trait in contract negotiations in soccer over there (which is the biggest sport and usually the barometer for comparison). So, sometimes it's hard for them to understand that the Spurs means business and that includes not extending Manu. And I'm sure Manu is trying to teach them that there's nothing weird about it.
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uru and nono beat me to the translation, good job guys...
as far as that quote timvp highlighted, that paragraph is being misunderstood. manu is saying someone was noting how angry and focused he was playing and implying that he was playing for a contract. manu says that he's not playing differently, and that he's not playing for a contract, that he just wants the team to win and adds at the end "besides, the further the team gets the better contract i'll get". basically the traditional manu "i play for the team not my stats and everything else will take care of itself" line. if you believe him or not is another matter...
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If I were Spurs FO, I would offer a contract extension to Manu just after the trade deadline. Signing Manu to a $16M/2 years or $18M/2 years extension isn't a that big risk compared to the risk of losing him via FA. Even if Manu declines to sign the extension, an extension offer will help to improve the relationship between Spurs FO and Manu.
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Bruno
If I were Spurs FO, I would offer a contract extension to Manu just after the trade deadline. Signing Manu to a $16M/2 years or $18M/2 years extension isn't a that big risk compared to the risk of losing him via FA. Even if Manu declines to sign the extension, an extension offer will help to improve the relationship between Spurs FO and Manu.
I like your logic though playing or not in Turkey will be a huge part of his next contract negotiation. If you throw him the bone to early he might go to Turkey and I bet Pop doesn't want that... :wakeup
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Re: Must read: new Manu article
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
If I were Spurs FO, I would offer a contract extension to Manu just after the trade deadline. Signing Manu to a $16M/2 years or $18M/2 years extension isn't a that big risk compared to the risk of losing him via FA. Even if Manu declines to sign the extension, an extension offer will help to improve the relationship between Spurs FO and Manu.
8mil per year is too much in my opinion when you think what are the risks and minutes he is able to play when healthy.
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Something that urunobili fixed in the translation but I left in mine, is that Manu has a lapse in memory when he said: "Well, in last year's playoffs against New Orleans, we lost the 3rd quarters for 6 games straight."
I was LOL when translating...
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urunobili
Hey Kinder sorry for the tone of my request you're totally right... I was in the middle of the translation and I saw it and felt dissapointed.. my bad I'm sorry i hope you hold no grudge over me ST is a gr8 place to make friends :tu
No sweat.
Thanks for the accurate translation. I'm really getting nervous over this Manu FA talk. He is one player that I was certain would never play in another uniform (in the NBA, anyways). I guess this just goes to show that it truly is a business.
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Thanks, urunobili and ElNono. :toast
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Well, in last year's playoffs against New Orleans, we lost the 3rd quarters for 6 games straight.
'09 really was a lost year; literally deleted from Manu's memory bank. :lol
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Kamnik
8mil per year is too much in my opinion when you think what are the risks and minutes he is able to play when healthy.
It's a risk to take.
When I see that the best Spurs could do in the 2010 FA are players like Mike Miller or John Salmons, I'm ready to take that risk.
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ElNono
Something that urunobili fixed in the translation but I left in mine, is that Manu has a lapse in memory when he said: "Well, in last year's playoffs against New Orleans, we lost the 3rd quarters for 6 games straight."
I was LOL when translating...
see? even Manu agrees last year series vs. Mavs and Lakers championship don't count