Some thoughts on Tony Parker

Regarding the OP post I think he has a point in the lack of shooters on the starting line-up, Pop's most used SL is Tony-Bogans/Hill-RJ-Blair-Tim, out of those guys nobody is a reliable jumpshooter. timvp discredited this point by saying that Tony is finishing as good as ever the only problem is that he isn't getting to the rim as often as he usually does and IMO this fact doesn't discredit the OP point in fact it enforces it, the lack of shooters leaves less room for Tony to get to the paint (although you also have to consider Parker's injury).

P/S: One question for the greater minds of ST, why is the thought of having Tony coming off the bench this year (you know with the injuries and the tiredness) so laughable but the thought of Manu coming off the bench through almost his entire NBA career is so clever?

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Originally Posted by DAF86

P/S: One question for the greater minds of ST, why is the thought of having Tony coming off the bench this year (you know with the injuries and the tiredness) so laughable but the thought of Manu coming off the bench through almost his entire NBA career is so clever?

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If Manu was able to play 34mpg, he would be a starter.

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Originally Posted by portnoy1

Parker is what he is. Sadly I think the spurs FO/Pop kinda made him that way. Its not so much the assist that are the problem with Parker, Its how he gets them. Last season Parker averaged 7ast a game, thats only 1-2 ast a night shy of what Calderon/Kidd/Rondo averaged who were in the top 5 last season. However its the way he got those assist thats the problem this day an age. Parker can drive and kick to shooters all night, and probably average 10ast a game doing it. However If you put non-shooters on the floor with him he becomes extremely limited in the halfcourt and limits others in transition. Blair/Hill/RJ dont work to well with him cause their not natural spot-up shooters. However when you throw Manu in the mix, Blair gets layups/Hill and RJ get good looks in transition and the team game becomes better. In the Nuggets game Ginobili didnt have a great scoring game, but he handed out 9ast and kept the ball moving. Parkers 9ast compared to Manu's 9ast are completely different.

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portnoy1 never fail to deliver

How do you rank / analyse the Collison 32 assists ? more parker's ones or manu ? more CP3 in the style ?

Is Collison the future Steve Nash ?

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Originally Posted by Pauleta14

really? :downspin:

I think he also has more friends on Facebook... :lol

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:rollin

Well, to my credit, the Spurs DO get a cut of merchandise sold, unlike the Facebook friends. :lol

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If Manu was able to play 34mpg, he would be a starter.

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Manu played 34mpg in the NT for years...

Manu guarded Fish in 04 and stupidly fouled Dirk (and the TO vs Kevin Martin in the Sacramento series that shouldn't have gone to 6 games that same season) at the end of the games in two of the most heart breaking Spurs losses all time... [/thread]

TP> Manu as a Spur is simple math...

as a basketball player? CROFL

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Originally Posted by timvp

Uh oh. This thread could lead to fireworks :lol

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I knew bumping that thread was not a good idea :hat

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Originally Posted by Bruno

I've given up talking about TP on ST for years. Some of the posters are way too blinded by their hate to have an objective opinion.

Now, all the haters have to deal with a fact: Parker is the 4th best Spur ever behind Gervin, Robinson and Duncan.

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You mean the 13th best Spur ever behind Duncan, Gervin, Robinson, Ginobili, Sean E., Dennis Rodman, Moses Malone, Dale Ellis, Rod Strickland, Avery Johnson, Sleepy FLoyd and Lloyd Daniels.

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Originally Posted by Brazil

I knew bumping that thread was not a good idea :hat

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It's not a bad idea. There's no game until tomorrow night. :lol

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Originally Posted by lefty

you mean the 13th best spur ever behind duncan, gervin, robinson, ginobili, sean e., dennis rodman, moses malone, dale ellis, rod strickland, avery johnson, sleepy floyd and lloyd daniels.

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tp >>>>>>> aj

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Manu > Tony 75% of Spurs know that, the thing is Ginobili has played a lot less time for this franchise than Parker so yes it's fair to say that Parker will have a better career as a Spur than Manu.

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Really? :lol

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Originally Posted by lefty

You mean the 14th best Spur ever behind Duncan, Gervin, Robinson, Ginobili, Sean E., Dennis Rodman, Moses Malone, Dale Ellis, Rod Strickland, Avery Johnson, Sleepy FLoyd, Lloyd Daniels and G Hill.

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fify

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Originally Posted by ElNono

It's not a bad idea. There's no game until tomorrow night. :lol

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thanks to be nice

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Manu played 34mpg in the NT for years...

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And they played 100 games per year...

Even if Manu is able to play 34mpg, Pop doesn't want to play him that much. The limited MPG Manu played is the main reason why he doesn't start.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If Manu was able to play 34mpg, he would be a starter.

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Tony doesn't seem to be doing much better playing those kind of minutes this year. Besides you can play less than that and still start. And last but not least, Manu's lack of stamina has been largely overrated by ST over the years. Manu can easily play 35 min per game, maybe not at the frenetic rythm he usually does but he can still play those minutes and be very effective.

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Originally Posted by Bukefal

Really? :lol

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Brazil

fify

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:lol

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Even if Manu is able to play 34mpg, Pop doesn't want to play him that much. The limited MPG Manu played is the main reason why he doesn't start.

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This I agree with. At least that's what worked for the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Brazil

I knew bumping that thread was not a good idea :hat

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Actualy I kinda like it.... :lol

I personally think that Spurs players should be ranked by their cuteness. Beno with his man purse is the best Spur ever. And it's a fact.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

I personally think that Spurs players should be ranked by their cuteness. Beno with his man purse is the best Spur ever. And it's a fact.

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It's not a purse !

It's European !!!!

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Originally Posted by Bruno

I personally think that Spurs players should be ranked by their cuteness. Beno with his man purse is the best Spur ever. And it's a fact.

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Angel_Luv would like to have a word with you... :lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Angel_Luv would like to have a word with you... :lol

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Well, I don't think that looking like Frankenstein's creature is cute.

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Originally Posted by lefty

You mean the 13th best Spur ever behind Duncan, Gervin, Robinson, Ginobili, Sean E., Dennis Rodman, Moses Malone, Dale Ellis, Rod Strickland, Avery Johnson, Sleepy FLoyd and Lloyd Daniels.

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Well, I don't think that looking like Frankenstein's creature is cute.

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LOL, he has changed...

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