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Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread
According to Sacramento's announcer, we're very close to a deal for a backup PG and either a SF or a big man, I didn't hear the last part, but he did say PG..
He said it's really close and it might affect how Pop plays the players tonight..
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"for a backup PG and backup forward".
Interesting.
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Heard this as well, for a backup PG and Forward.
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WTH? Trades r never that quiet?
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I hope we have some info on this soon... its killing me. I'm on league pass and heard it too.
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Originally Posted by
lortiz19
WTH? Trades r never that quiet?
your right, but if its for two backups, i can see why it would be quiet.
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Someone said a small forward and pg. That would suck because the Spurs need a defensive big.
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I bet you it's a cap space deal.
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Never mind. They said "forward and pg", not a "sf"
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Now I'm glued to the tv hoping they mention something more.
Backup pg makes sense and that makes me think Mason would be involved. Backup forward makes me think Mahinmi and/or Bonner could be on the way out. I doubt they're getting rid of McDyess or Blair.
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bonner,mason,jefferson,mydyess for lebron?
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Lets watch to see who stays on the bench tonight... I havn't seen blair yet...
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I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..
I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..
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hmm well Lebron can play PG and Forward ;).
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..
I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..
I said as a guess Foster/Ford, but I cannot see the Spurs taking that contract on. Not to mention Foster has been hurt and TJ is a malcontent that has played terrible and been demoted.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Someone said a small forward and pg. That would suck because the Spurs need a defensive big.
Considering Pop's affinity for small ball it was unlikely that we would have traded for a big anyways. The rumor makes sense in that context.
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I am going to guess Mason might be on his way out.
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It will be interesting to see if Bonner/Fin/Mason play. Now Blair is the first big off of the bench.
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Jeff Foster is out for the season, so that can't be it..
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I don't see Blair on the bench?!
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If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.
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With Hill, Bonner and Blair in the game, good chances they aren't part of the deal.
No Mason yet though.
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Jeff Foster is out for the season, so that can't be it..
Oh, I did not know that. Never mind then.
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A combo of Ian/Fin/Mason can bring in about 8M in salary in return give or take.
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.
I concur.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Oh, I did not know that. Never mind then.
I'm not keen on Foster or Ford. I had no idea either that Foster was out. Can't be that one then.
So are people thinking the PG is the filler? I'd say I agree with that. The big would have to be the main piece.
I'd love to even do a couple of trades. If we can get this trade no reason why we can't push RJ too before the trade deadline.
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Originally Posted by
MaNu4Tres
If it is true the back up point guard has to be a 3rd string filler to get the deal to go through. I can't see the Spurs targeting a back up point guard as a priority.
Yes. This makes sense. If a deal is going down right now... would they wait till after the game to announce?
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any guess on who that forward is going to be? I hope the FO ships Jefferson's ass. He's horrible once more
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Finley is in the game now. Still no Mason.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
A combo of Ian/Fin/Mason
That would be my guess for the Spurs side as well.
edit: Finley in now...if Mason plays, it's probably a bad rumour :lol
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Manu is getting trigger happy on those 3s
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
I can't really think of a realistic combination that I would like..
I also want to know how Sacto's announcer would know this..
The Kings announcers usually don't talk about stuff unless it's already done. Or it's about to go down. Maybe nothing will happen but they had to hear something for them to make that announcement.
Finley is in now and Mason was at the scorers table.
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How about Nocioni and Beno lol.
Maybe the Kings announcers are really onto the deal.
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Damn, Finley and Bonner have played. No Mason though. Please don't dump Mason instead of Finley unless we get a big that will help.
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I have a feeling that if a trade occurs, it's for financial reasons...
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Fuck Mason Jr. is in now. Great.
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Mason in now too.
CIA Pop or Sacto announcers got mixed up.
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Yup, all the main suspects have played: Bonner/Finley/Mason. So I have no idea about this now.
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Roger mason in the game...im not sure i believe the announcer on the "may effect who plays tonight"
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
How about Nocioni and Beno lol.
Maybe the Kings announcers are really onto the deal.
I was thinking the same thing lol
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Oh damn, TP must be the one that is gone. The signs are there:
1) "Trading for a PG", why would they need a pg.
2) "Might effect who plays", no TP?
This is no coincidence.
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Ramon Sessions and Ryan Gomes from the Wolves. They fit the description.
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well Finley is playing, so looks like he won't be traded, I wanted to keep Mason, but doesn't look like he will play tonight
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Never mind. They said "forward and pg", not a "sf"
I thought I heard the announcers indicate a "3rd pg and forward". Did anyone else here the same?
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Good to see Blair out there, he's been very productive lately
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Nocioni and Beno would be horrible IMO..
I'm thinking Sacto's announcer is wrong, but like loveofthegame said, he must have heard it somewhere or he wouldn't have said anything..that's a pretty big statement to make on the air without any proof to back it up..
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I also agree with Manu4Tres that it looks like the PG would be a filler and not an impact player IMO..
Bassy + Camby would be nice, but I don't know who we could give back to make the 11 mil work..
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I don't want this to happen but could it be Chris Duhon and Larry Hughes?
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If that's going to be Nocioni and Beno, then we're fucked
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A Tony Parker trade like DPG mentioned isn't totally out of the question I suppose. We assume he's not on the block but I can see several teams trying to get him...good PG and relatively affordable.
Hill has done a good job and would need a backup.
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Manu what a fucking pass.....
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well Mason is playing so it could be anyone now
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Bonner and Finley doing their best to lose this game but Manu and Blair spoiling their efforts....
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No one has any idea, so it is best to just let it go. Most of us have gone over every logical trading partner (and a ton of illogical partners), and no one knows what the Spurs are up to.
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SenorSpur
I thought I heard the announcers indicate a "3rd pg and forward". Did anyone else here the same?
I'm pretty sure I heard "backup" not third.
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Originally Posted by
Allanon
A Tony Parker trade like DPG mentioned isn't totally out of the question I suppose. We assume he's not on the block but I can see several teams trying to get him...good PG and relatively affordable.
Hill has done a good job and would need a backup.
Hill has not done anything close to good enough to be a starting pg on a championship team. No way TP goes unless it is some crazy no brainer.
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I wouldn't put too much thought into this trade scenario it's just a rumor.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Hill has not done anything close to good enough to be a starting pg on a championship team. No way TP goes unless it is some crazy no brainer.
I had heard on ESPN the other night that Pop thinks George Hill can be a 20/10 player. Pop seems high on him.
A Tony Parker deal is far fetched but if the Spurs can send off TP and get back somebody like Amare or Bosh in return, that's not a bad deal.
It does seem like this is an un-founded rumor though.
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Pop wasting no time going with his [email protected] lineup
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Bosh would be a no brainer. No way he goes for Amare. Pop says a lot of things he does not mean. Even if Hill could be a 20/10 guy he is not there yet and he is not a good play maker. No way TP goes.
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Originally Posted by
Allanon
I had heard on ESPN the other night that Pop thinks George Hill can be a 20/10 player. Pop seems high on him.
A Tony Parker deal is far fetched but if the Spurs can send off TP and get back somebody like Amare or Bosh in return, that's not a bad deal.
It does seem like this is an un-founded rumor though.
Did Pop really say that?????? Hill really is his favorite player then.
DeJuan Blair with 15 points in 8 minutes.
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Originally Posted by
ezau
If that's going to be Nocioni and Beno, then we're fucked
I'll be happy as a drunk sailor to get Nocioni.:drunk
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Bosh would be a no brainer. No way he goes for Amare. Pop says a lot of things he does not mean. Even if Hill could be a 20/10 guy he is not there yet and he is not a good play maker. No way TP goes.
Agreed. TP is not going anywhere.
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I don't see Nocioni and Beno, but I can see Nocioni and a filler like Sergio Rodriguez.
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MaNu4Tres
I don't see Nocioni and Beno, but I can see Nocioni and a filler like Sergio Rodriguez.
:hungry:
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so... tyreke evans and omri casspi?
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Maybe Robinson and Hughes or Jeffries.
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Boozer and D-Will :hungry:
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
Did Pop really say that?????? Hill really is his favorite player then.
DeJuan Blair with 15 points in 8 minutes.
Sorry, not 20/10, "a 20 point player" forget the 10 part. One of the commentators said Pop said that.
I think Hill could be 20 points a night, he is pretty efficient and he's very fast.
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Hopefully we can somehow trade Pop, Bogans and RJ together..
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:lol Just because Hill might be able to score 20 PPG one day does not mean TP is on the table. They have nothing to do with each other.
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the more likely scenario is that hill is on his way out and the spurs need a backup to replace him.
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Oh I'm not saying TP is on the table. I'm saying it's not THAT far-fetched with how well Hill is playing. Hill seems to be an able replacement.
Most of the rumours all focus on Manu (out of the big 3) due to his contract. But TP being a part of the deal does make some sense as well.
If the Spurs trade up Tony for a star big man like Bosh (a Texas native), that's a pretty great deal considering they'll have Hill. And Tony's locked into his contract so the Raptors would have some longevity.
Far-fetched I agree but it does make some sense.
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Allanon
Sorry, not 20/10, "a 20 point player" forget the 10 part. One of the commentators said Pop said that.
I think Hill could be 20 points a night, he is pretty efficient and he's very fast.
Hill definitely has the tools to do that, be a 20 point player. I agree.
Man if you guys got Hill and Blair you would be TOO sick. lol.
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Ice009
Hill definitely has the tools to do that, be a 20 point player. I agree.
Man if you guys got Hill and Blair you would be TOO sick. lol.
Don't tease me man. You know the Lakers suck at PG...a great defender and good offense Hill would be a god send :lol
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The more likely scenario is that Pop is committed to moving Hill into the starting SG spot so he will need a back up PG.
Maybe, Dorrell Wright and Carlos Arroyo?
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Allanon
Oh I'm not saying TP is on the table. I'm saying it's not THAT far-fetched with how well Hill is playing. Hill seems to be an able replacement.
Most of the rumours all focus on Manu (out of the big 3) due to his contract. But TP being a part of the deal does make some sense as well.
If the Spurs trade up Tony for a star big man like Bosh (a Texas native), that's a pretty great deal considering they'll have Hill. And Tony's locked into his contract so the Raptors would have some longevity.
Far-fetched I agree but it does make some sense.
Pop loves Hill, but the Spurs don't think he's a point guard. So I don't think they'd trade their starting point guard unless they we were getting a starting point guard back.
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Kori Ellis
Pop loves Hill, but the Spurs don't think he's a point guard. So I don't think they'd trade their starting point guard unless they we were getting a starting point guard back.
I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. Don't quite understand Pop sometimes but he has 4 rings I suppose. :lol
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Allanon
I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. :lol
You must not watch a lot of Spurs games. He isn't a very good PG at all. He has flashes, but not much there in terms of PG skills.
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I don't think Hill's gonna be traded. But perhaps Pop has been talking him up lately to increase his perceived value around the league.
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Allanon
I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. Don't quite understand Pop sometimes but he has 4 rings I suppose. :lol
Hills sucks at the PG. he is a SG and shouldnt even be played at the point, just like roger.
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Allanon
I personally love Hill at PG but hate him at SG. :lol
Who was the guy on the Lakers that wanted to draft him? I recall Phil saying some really good things about George after that last Spurs vs Lakers game. Was Phil the guy looking at him or you think someone else from the scouting department?
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Kori Ellis
You must not watch a lot of Spurs games. He isn't a very good PG at all. He has flashes, but not much there in terms of PG skills.
I watch almost every Spurs game.
Pop likes going small ball; and I don't like it. I prefer Hill at PG; I think he just needs more experience to run the offense better.
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Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...
:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:
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Maybe it is Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman :lmao
:p:
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Jamison would officially turn us into the old Suns IMO..
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jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic
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You would think Pop wouldn't play whoever is going to be traded if this is imminent, as it seems to be. Yet, we pretty much played all our expirings against Sacto tonight. I wouldn't hold my breath on this.
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Ice009
Who was the guy on the Lakers that wanted to draft him? I recall Phil saying some really good things about George after that last Spurs vs Lakers game. Was Phil the guy looking at him or you think someone else from the scouting department?
I don't remember who it was but the Lakers were indeed trying to move up in the draft to get George Hill.
But the Spurs snagged him first.
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gmanrulz
jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic
i see what you did there.
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gmanrulz
jamison and crittenton. gonna be a shooting clinic
Crittenton is suspended for the rest of the year and most likely will be waived if he tries to appeal.
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Nocioni and Sergio Rodriguez :stirpot:
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Kori Ellis
Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...
:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:
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I think WASH has said the ONLY big piece not available is 'Tawn. Maybe Butler is the forward? And Foye is the PG? [/pipedream]
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Kori Ellis
Anyway, as to the topic of who the forward is...
:hungry: Antawn Jamison :hungry:
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See, I have gone back and forth on this, and have come to the conclusion that I would like this. But almost no one agrees. He would not be my first choice, but I would like all things considered.
What is your take on this "rumor" and have you heard anything that you are willing to talk about?
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exstatic
I think WASH has said the ONLY big piece not available is 'Tawn. Maybe Butler is the forward? And Foye is the PG? [/pipedream]
That would be baller. I am a big Foye fan.