Big Picture Happiness

Oh timvp, optimistic to a fault.

At some point, you have to panic. That point was 5 games ago. Now, I know where the team is, and I know our future. We aren't good enough, healthy or not. Simple as that. And we don't have enough time to change that with our current roster. I'm an optimistic guy, but even I can see that.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

Agreed; while it's a tad bit sad we're happy over our best guys just being healthy at the same period of time, it also gives you hope that this team's best days are still ahead of them. It takes time to get in the groove..

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Remember that thread where you argued with me about how health wasn't the big concern and no Spurs fan should be worried about the Spurs health?

:lol

So classic.

we can't win close games anymore

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Originally Posted by edgar

Yup, I hardly agree with anything he says...Timvp is more of a motivator for the lost sheep that are willing to clinge to any bones of hope that they can get.

:hungry:

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Originally Posted by the crimson blur

Oh timvp, optimistic to a fault.

At some point, you have to panic. That point was 5 games ago. Now, I know where the team is, and I know our future. We aren't good enough, healthy or not. Simple as that. And we don't have enough time to change that with our current roster. I'm an optimistic guy, but even I can see that.

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What motivation or optimism have I offered? All I've pointed out is that the Big Three appear to be healthy for the first time this season.

I think this team as currently constructed has about a 1 in 200 chance of winning a championship this season. Maybe less. I say the chances of even just being healthy come playoff time is like 15% ... and then you have to factor in playing great basketball. As I said earlier in the thread, a championship is a long, long shot.





Oh and I've pushed the panic button long ago.

Yeah but you're not cutting yourself yet, Timvp.

RJ disappointed with his poor defensive effort. One Andre Miller layup he could easily have prevented by simply stepping in front of Miller to either take a charge or force him to stop but he did neither and a layup resulted. On offense, he did another disappearing act. The only entertainment he provided was when he got a tongue lashing from Pop and he was trying to keep other Spurs between Pop and himself.. I think he sat down for a while then all of a sudden his bald head made a reappearnace in the Spurs huddle. He was really getting it from Pop.

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Originally Posted by timvp

What motivation or optimism have I offered? All I've pointed out is that the Big Three appear to be healthy for the first time this season.

I think this team as currently constructed has about a 1 in 200 chance of winning a championship this season. Maybe less. I say the chances of even just being healthy come playoff time is like 15% ... and then you have to factor in playing great basketball. As I said earlier in the thread, a championship is a long, long shot.

Oh and I've pushed the panic button long ago.

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Ah, maybe I misunderstood you then.

I think we all agree we are absolutely screwed then. At least we are in agreement.

The last time timvp made a positive thread after a loss was about Pop going with a playoff like rotation. He was happy to see Pop going with RMJ instead of Bogans. The result is that now Bogans plays and RMJ get DNP-CD.

I hope that it won't turn like that this time... :downspin:

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Originally Posted by Bruno

The last time timvp made a positive thread after a loss was about Pop going with a playoff like rotation. He was happy to see Pop going with RMJ instead of Bogans. The result is that now Bogans plays and RMJ get DNP-CD.

I hope that it won't turn like that this time... :downspin:

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Not to mention Finley's return :hang

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Originally Posted by timvp

Not to mention Finley's return :hang

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Should we really be using words like 'return' when it comes to Finley?..

He's going to be here forever..I won't be surprised if his jersey is retired and the Spurs change their logo to Fin's face..

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Should we really be using words like 'return' when it comes to Finley?..

He's going to be here forever..I won't be surprised if his jersey is retired and the Spurs change their logo to Fin's face..

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Now that has the makings of a legendary photoshop :tu

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Originally Posted by TD 21

You have got to be shitting me?

I agree with your comment, but there is no silver lining here.

Ginobili missing that potential game-tying three, in a game that if they win could have turned around the season, reminded me of the '03 championship DVD and Robinson talking about Horry's in-and-out three that would have given the Lakers a 3-2 series lead and likely did the Spurs in for the third consecutive year to the Lakers. Said Robinson (to paraphrase), "there are one or two moments in the playoffs that you remember and they either go for you or they go against you and when that shot came out, I remember thinking to myself, it's our time".

Well, when that Ginobili shot rimmed out, I immediately thought to myself (in case it already wasn't painfully obvious), our time is over. Arguably the most clutch player on the team and one of the most clutch in the league get's a wide open corner three with the game on the line and misses, particularly with the Spurs in dire need of pulling a game like this out, on the road, against quality opposition. Obviously I can't say for sure, but I feel if this were any other year since the big three formed, that shot goes down. Tonight it didn't and as cheesy as it may sound, maybe that's a sign.

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LOL Nobody makes the last second shot 100% of the time.

dyess, RJ, blair continue to keep missing rotation after rotation after rotation. and when they arent missing the rotations they arent contributing in any other way because they are so damn focused on the rotations.... those guys are thinking to much rather than playing and you cant do that.... when the game gets chippy and it goes to crunch time... then those guys start playing basketball like they know how... and then they miss more rotations...... not so much blair on this but dyess and RJ big time.... thats the biggest problem we have...... plain and simple.... its not as dramatic as people think.

The way this team is built, it can make the playoffs but it won't win a single round. The clutchness is no longer there and sadly, there is that lingering thought that our big three is no longer that good. The good thing about the game is that we played good enough to win on the second day of a back-to-back against quality opposition. Fuck, this same Blazers team can beat a healthy Lakers team at home. Why the hell are you guys so fucking surprised?

Good dump Mason so we can Malik up here. That way we have someone who can play both sides of the court and will play with a ton of energy and heart. Unlike half our team.

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Originally Posted by ulosturedge

Good dump Mason so we can Malik up here. That way we have someone who can play both sides of the court and will play with a ton of energy and heart. Unlike half our team.

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Good point. Although I rather dump Mason to bring back Five Oh and Avery since Hill can only play shooting guard from now on.

It better be a priority because what this team needs is someone to dribble the ball up the court and give Manu or Tim the ball to start the offense 10-15 minutes a game. With that I think our chances for number 5 would improve drastically. Only TRUE point guards can do that. We need a TRUE point guard to back up Tony don't you agree?

The Spurs need Tim to step it up defensively. One on one he's trying hard but struggling. As a
help depfender down low this team misses him big-time. More troubling is a lot of guys are spotting him up because he giving too much room backing off. The mobilty is just not there so Tim is forced to adjust. He sure isn't 100 percent right now .

Aside from that the big 3 are looking great.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Good point. Although I rather dump Mason to bring back Five Oh and Avery since Hill can only play shooting guard from now on.

It better be a priority because what this team needs is someone to dribble the ball up the court and give Manu or Tim the ball to start the offense 10-15 minutes a game. With that I think our chances for number 5 would improve drastically. Only TRUE point guards can do that. We need a TRUE point guard to back up Tony don't you agree?

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Oh also, anyone think Mark Jackson is available ??? Spurs really need an assist machine like him to dribble the ball up the court 10-15 minutes a game to get Manu and Tim the ball to start the half court offense. Hill is so terrible at that. What a mistake it has been putting him at back up point guard.

This team has developed really bad habits, and when they "get away with it," it reinforces those bad habits. They learned absolutely nothing from blowing the lead to Sacramento.

I think it was the first time I have cussed in my native tongue in a Spurs game blog... I was REALLY REALLY frustrated... :depressed

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs6/i/200...neek_zique.gif

Yes, we need the big 3 healthy, but when we were winning we had a Bowen defense on the perimeter and someone ( like a Jaren Jackson, Steve Kerr, Bowen,etc ) who could make the 3 when Tim was mobbed. I don't think we ever won it all shooting 23% from the 3. It seems strange that all of a sudden everyone, Manu, Finley, Bonner, Boggans, has lost the ability to sink it beyond the arc.

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Originally Posted by texwheel

Yes, we need the big 3 healthy, but when we were winning we had a Bowen defense on the perimeter and someone ( like a Jaren Jackson, Steve Kerr, Bowen,etc ) who could make the 3 when Tim was mobbed. I don't think we ever won it all shooting 23% from the 3. It seems strange that all of a sudden everyone, Manu, Finley, Bonner, Boggans, has lost the ability to sink it beyond the arc.

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they have cooled off on their 3pt shooting :depressed

Before Bonner's Injury:
http://i49.tinypic.com/nycnpz.png
Mades: 6.96
Attempts: 18.46
Percentage: 38%

After Bonner's Injury:
http://i47.tinypic.com/6ekvih.png
Mades: 5.83
Attempts: 16.75
Percentage: 35%

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Remember that thread where you argued with me about how health wasn't the big concern and no Spurs fan should be worried about the Spurs health?

:lol

So classic.

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I remember you crying about this team's biggest obstacle being health and the whole "if you don't agree you are stupid" line, both of which are still wrong for the same reasons.

This team's biggest obstacle is the LA Lakers. Not getting healthy, we are rapidly approaching 'healthy as can be' according to the Spurs FO and doctors (if you conclude TP is about the best we can expect with his PF), and our main guys ARE healthy as can be and pretty much have been since our exchange and before, TP's situation in mind. Do you have that inside info I asked for or are you still just saying you know better than the Spurs trainers/personnel?

And even at 100% health, we may not get past LA or even a team like the Mavericks.

What else did you misunderstand in our original exchange?

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Originally Posted by ulosturedge

Good dump Mason so we can Malik up here. That way we have someone who can play both sides of the court and will play with a ton of energy and heart. Unlike half our team.

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Even if Spurs called Hairston back he would just sit there like Mason is doing right now.

As long as Pop has Finely, bonner, and Boguns in his clutches he would be even lucky to be allowed to be out there for warm ups. :lol

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Originally Posted by z0sa

I remember you crying about this team's biggest obstacle being health and the whole "if you don't agree you are stupid" line, both of which are still wrong for the same reasons.

This team's biggest obstacle is the LA Lakers. Not getting healthy, we are rapidly approaching 'healthy as can be' according to the Spurs FO and doctors (if you conclude TP is about the best we can expect with his PF), and our main guys ARE healthy as can be and pretty much have been since our exchange and before, TP's situation in mind. Do you have that inside info I asked for or are you still just saying you know better than the Spurs trainers/personnel?

And even at 100% health, we may not get past LA or even a team like the Mavericks.

What else did you misunderstand in our original exchange?

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Oh was that it? Too bad you bring up a whole new angle in this post than you did in that thread.

Its ok dude, you got owned (again). You're used to it by now, right?