Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
Scottie Pippen was the best perimeter defender of the 90's and was a big part of some great defensive teams as well. He guarded players of all positions and still found a way to pull down 7-9 boards a game even with a ton of offensive responsibilities as well. Bruce Bowen didn't do half the shit on defense that Pippen did and still couldn't manage at least 5 boards being a 6'7 guy? That excuse isn't flying. Rebounding takes effort and can anyone really say Bowen ever made an effort to hit the boards even when they were really needed?
Bowen isn't as good as a Hall of Famer who is one of the best 50 players of all-time?
Shocking revelation.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
Just because the Spurs were statistically a good rebounding team doesn't mean they didn't get their clocks cleaned in a playoff series by a tough rebounding team.
Name one in which the poor rebounding can't be attributed to small ball.
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
The Mavs seem to get to every loose ball and offensive rebound during that series.
That's what happens when one team is playing a big lineup and the other one is playing small ball. You said that Bowen at SF hurt the Spurs rebounding-wise. The 2006 Mavs series doesn't apply to that theory.
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
Bruce Bowen wasn't making any kind of effort whatsoever to defensive rebound and he wasn't on Dirk 24/7 so that's no excuse.
The Spurs outrebounded the Mavs in that series when they weren't using small ball. And it wasn't a matter of a lack of effort. Dirk was just a much better rebounder that Bowen. Dirk was taller, stronger, more athletic, more adept to playing in the paint, etc. Expecting Bowen to compete against Dirk on the boards was simply a poor coaching move.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Bowen isn't as good as a Hall of Famer who is one of the best 50 players of all-time?
Shocking revelation.
To rebound the basketball you don't have to be as good as a Hall of Famer :lol
It just takes effort.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
timvp
The aspect I hate most about RJ's lack of rebounding is that his effort on the boards is tied to the number of touches he gets. In games that he shoots more than 10 times, he averages a very respectable 5.5 rebounds per game. But in all other contests, he averages an embarrassing 2.6 rebounds per game.
Out of curiosity, what's our record when he has taken 10+ shots?
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
To rebound the basketball you don't have to be as good as a Hall of Famer :lol
It just takes effort.
:lol If only rebounding were that simple.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Out of curiosity, what's our record when he has taken 10+ shots?
9-7 by my quick count.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
timvp
9-7 by my quick count.
I was hoping that would give me more ammo to fire at Pop, but no cigar... :lol
Thanks :toast
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
Agloco
This tends to happen when the guy boxing you out is 7 feet tall and you're 6'7".
Fail.
In comparison, Charles Barkely is 6'4".
RJ just does not give that effort required of someone making $14million a year.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
wijayas
Fail.
In comparison, Charles Barkely is 6'4".
RJ just does not give that effort required of someone making $14million a year.
Barkley and RJ are two completely different players. Besides, Barkley was like 250lbs, just like Blair.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
Blair is 265 lbs, has a 7'2" wingspan, and an ass the size of a small truck.
:lol:tu
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
hitmanyr2k
Scottie Pippen was the best perimeter defender of the 90's and was a big part of some great defensive teams as well. He guarded players of all positions and still found a way to pull down 7-9 boards a game even with a ton of offensive responsibilities as well. Bruce Bowen didn't do half the shit on defense that Pippen did and still couldn't manage at least 5 boards being a 6'7 guy? That excuse isn't flying. Rebounding takes effort and can anyone really say Bowen ever made an effort to hit the boards even when they were really needed?
Don't you think it is silly to compare Bruce vs. Scottie? It is like comparing MJ vs. Dirk!
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
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Originally Posted by
Hooks
Barkley and RJ are two completely different players. Besides, Barkley was like 250lbs, just like Blair.
Right. They are completely different players because of their efforts are different.
Re: Dick Jeffersons rebounds per minute
Pippen > Bowen
Who'd of thunk it?