They seem to be struggling mightily. They dont look so hot right now against the Magic.
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They seem to be struggling mightily. They dont look so hot right now against the Magic.
They might be in a worst situation right now because of the injuries.
Their coach is better though.
i agree...they seem to lose their swaggers at times (just like the spurs)
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Originally Posted by Hooks
no...
The NBA is going threw a financial crisis and is affect the league, i heard there throwing strip joints inside the arenas.
Boston's top guys are a lot worse off than the Spurs big 3 right now..McDyess also has a lot more left in the tank than Wallace..one of the main differences between the Celtics and Spurs, TBH, is that the Celtics get away with a lot more from refs, which is something that the Spurs used to have.."reputation calls"..
boston is lucky that they are in the east
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Agree with the title of the thread and with what you have to say. Specifically, the '10 Celtics remind me of the '08 Spurs. They've blown 9 double-digits leads since Christmas, which tells me that they're old. Old enough that they don't have the energy to sustain a consistent level of play for 48 minutes. In flashes, you'll still see the Celtics of old, but eventually you'll see the old Celtics.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
It's funny how the media was seemingly eager to witness the Spurs demise, yet not one person has admitted that the Celtics look done. They might still get to the conference finals, based on their experience, mental toughness, savvy, heart, character, guile, etc. but I see no way they beat the Cavs in a series. They're just not going to have the energy to play well enough for as long as it takes to win a championship.
Garnett and Allen have fallen off a cliff, Pierce, while he hasn't declined to their extent, is in decline and Rondo is their only source of youthful exuberance, as well as speed/quickness. Perkins/Davis are good young players, but they're both lumbering big men. There's just no energy from anyone but Rondo; they look like a bunch of zombies.
I know they've had more injuries than the Spurs, but if you account for the fact that they play in the weak East, how much (if at all) better are the Celtics than the Spurs?
Top five teams: Cavs, Lakers, Nuggets, Magic, Hawks.
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Have you been to a Maverick's game lately? The dancers are almost naked during the timeouts.
I watched what the Celtics did to the Lakers for a stretch last week, and it was better than I've seen the Spurs play since 2008. Like I said before, the Cetlics have at least five guys who could come to San Antonio and immediately be the best defender on the Spurs team.
A healthy Celtics team could win the championship. Their main problem is that KG has lost about two steps since 2008 and Ray Allen is becoming less and less effective offensively.
Well then how it is that you think they could win the championship? They're healthy now and they just can't sustain their effort for 48 minutes. Garnett may get slightly more mobile/explosive the more he plays, but the reality is people need to accept that it isn't just injury holding Garnett back, like it was Duncan, it's a flat out decline, bordering on O'Neal like proportions. Can you win a championship with no player playing at a superstar level and three of your top four players struggling? I don't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Barring something unforeseen, unfortunately it's more than likely going to be the Lakers and Cavs in the Finals. The Nuggets and Magic look to be the only teams capable of breaking this up. I'd give the Nuggets a better chance than the Magic.
They are healthy right now? Really? o__o
When you have as much mileage as their so-called big three does, they'll almost always be at least one of them ailing. But they're all at least playing now. Daniels is back, Davis, Allen (Tony). Realistically, the so-called big three are probably never going to be at 100% health for an extended period of time again, which means at least one will always be out of rhythm or struggling. It's probably time to accept that what you see is what you get from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinTin
They're healthy? Garnett can barely move and Pierce just came back from injury. KG obviously is worn down but he's also dealing with getting his knee hyperextended a few weeks ago ... so there's hope for him to recover. Pierce also has room for improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
:lol @ the Hawks being more of a championship caliber team than the Celtics.
Why does Rondo throw Oops to KG? He knows he's breaking down man that's just stupid.
What makes you think that is going to change with regards to Garnett? Pierce, his foot will improve and when it does, something else will break down. I had Celtics/Spurs as the finals coming into the season, but it's just not going to happen. You need to stop seeing Garnett for what he was even early last season and adjust your expectation to what he is now: at his absolute best, he's a fringe top twenty player. Right now, he's a mere role player.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, but I never said the Hawks are more of a championship caliber team than the Celtics. I listed the top five teams currently, but that's not how I'd rank teams in terms of who I think can win a championship.
Did you read what I wrote? I said he just hyperextended his knee a few weeks ago.Quote:
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You favored the Spurs over the Lakers before the season? That was a homer selection. The Lakers have remained at least a notch ahead of the Spurs since the 2008 playoffs.Quote:
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:lol @ using reading comprehension smack incorrectly. Go look at your post and tell me what there was to comprehend.Quote:
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List your top five teams who can win a championship, pal.
Thanks.
I don't need updates on the goings on around the league from you, genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I thoughts the pieces were in place to dethrone the Lakers, yes. I never considered the Spurs the favorites though.
I just told you what there was to comprehend in the last post. I'll repeat it, since you're slow: I never listed the top five teams as teams most likely to win the championship, but rather the top five current teams.
To win a championship, I'd go: Lakers, Cavs, Nuggets, Celtics, Magic.
As weary as the Celtics look, I've just never fully bought into the Magic, nor the Hawks. Both lack a go-to player in big moments the caliber of which is needed to win deep in the playoffs and both have an element of inexperience and immaturity to them as well. I only go Lakers over Cavs because I think they have more room for error, but I think the Cavs are the best team at this point and the Nuggets neck-and-neck with the Lakers for second. For the longest time, I was convinced only the Lakers, Celtics or Spurs (maybe the Cavs, if James pulled an '00 O'Neal or an '03 Duncan) were going to win the championship. But things have changed, namely with the Celtics and the Spurs.
I am pleased we did not sign Wallace who is out of shape worse than ever now and just chucks up stupid threes (When I see him anyways). Dyess is not great but he is doing better than Wallace.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
:lol Cat spends the first half of the thread fighting against the Celtics being a championship contender and then lists the Celtics as the fourth most likely team to win the championship.
Classic.
Right now, I'd say only the Cavs, Lakers or Nuggets will win the championship. I'd still probably put the Spurs 6th or 7th at the absolute worst, yet I don't consider them contenders. My putting the Celtics 4th is really more a commentary on the lack of truly elite teams in the league right now, then it is my belief that the Celtics will have the energy needed to go four rounds after a grueling 82 game season. The playoffs are a battle of attrition.Quote:
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This guy might be my new favorite poster. It's entertaining to see someone argue with himself. First he rants about how the Celtics don't have a chance while saying the only teams capable of stopping a showdown between the Lakers and Cavs in the Finals are the Nuggets and Magic. Then when he lists his top championship contenders, he puts the Celtics ahead of the Magic.Quote:
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That is just awesome.
You might just be the most ignorant poster on this board, which is saying something. Congratulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
What's so hard about that to understand? Match-up wise, I think the Magic stand a better chance at beating the Cavs in a series than the Celtics, but if the Cavs were to be eliminated by the Magic (or Hawks, though I can't see it) and the Celtics somehow avoided the Cavs and got the Magic in the conference finals, then I could see them getting to the finals, but I still don't think they'd beat the Lakers.
I'll take that as a compliment. You are my favorite poster on this board :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
You're not only copping out, but on top of that you're desperately trying to be funny, even though you're not. A double whammy.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
True. I aim to be as funny and as consistent as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Well, at least you admit to copping out, which is a rarity. In fact, I don't ever recall someone doing so. I am consistent, you just lack basic reading comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
IIRC, I'm the only one who successfully predicted the fall of the celtics in the pre-season when everyone and their uncle was buying into the "Rasheed hype" that they would be the best defensive team to ever grace an nba court and steamroll everyone including the lakers.
And for the first 9 games they almost lived up to that hype, going 8-1 and holding opponents to extremely low shooting %. But trying to live up to such a ridiculous standard was probably the worst thing they could have tried, given the age and mileage of their core players. They were literally burned out after the first month of the season.
Thanks, Rasheed... your blowhard predictions in no small way helped cement your teams' fate and prove me right. Keep up the technicals and keep chucking those 3's at a horrendous % to make my trifecta perfect. :toast
Arguing with someone who argues with himself is loads of fun. Why don't you explain again how the Celtics can't make the Finals and the Magic can ... yet the Celtics have a better chance of winning a championship than the Magic. It's sure to be a great read.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Who said anything about making the finals? We're talking about winning a championship. If by some chance the Celtics can remain relatively healthy AND avoid the Cavs, then I think they got a shot at getting there and even though I don't like their chances against the Lakers, I like them better than the Magic's. But I like the Magic's chances better against the Cavs. Really, it all just depends on the match-ups, health, plus what happens at the trade deadline, but again, you're focused too much on semantics (look it up). In the end, I don't think either can win a championship this season.Quote:
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And now we've come full circle back to my original take. I said the Celtics could win the championship. You just pointed out how the Celtics could win the championship.Quote:
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Thanks :tu
Is this a date?
Taking injuries out of the equation, is it a fair assessment that individually the Celtics have more talented defensive players than the Spurs?
Jealous?Quote:
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Want to fight?Quote:
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No you sounded to threatening on Spurstalk radio.Quote:
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What do you think about Manu and religion?Quote:
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celtics are in a better situation because if they get healthy, they can still win it all. The spurs are relatively healthy (notwithstanding parker's pf), but still aren't getting it done.
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i lol'd
timvp just owned td. :tu
Exactly. How did you sound because I could not hear you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Whoa whoa whoa. Tweak the high end on that emotional eq.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I had obligations during the hours of the show where I couldn't participate in the festivities. But to earn an ounce of your respect ( since that's obviously my priority) I will call in sooner or later when my schedule and time allows me to.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
After listening to a couple of shows the day after one or two of the games, I thought you had some good takes you just sound like a gnome. It's nothing to get defensive about.
Brah, two things:Quote:
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1) I said that about myself, so obviously I am not defensive
2) Mike Tyson does not sound scary either
If you were busy doing the vagina monologues I understand. Just call in when you get a chance. WTF are you gawking about earning my respect, :lol, thems just jokes.
How do you know about vagina monologues?Quote:
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I just had to google it. Learn something new everyday I guess.
Thanx Brah.
The real question is how can you be on a show and not know about it? Who are you, Joaquin Phoenix?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Ok, I am done here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUau8...eature=relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
You are trying to hard. Also, learn to embed videos.
So your not done?Quote:
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It is "you're".Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
But to answer your question, it would appear I am not. You are a pretty annoying girl. Or guy.
Oh now you go to the grammatical error approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Grow up
Literally.
That makes no sense. I make a joke to someone, then you comment. Then you keep going and say butt hurt stuff like "since it is my goal to impress you..." and post links for youtube.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
LMAO at your smack girl. Lame as it gets.
If you have anything more to say to me or want to know where I live PM me. I'm done here.
Why would I want to know where you live? :lol Are you 12?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
You have low "owned" standards then. All I got out of the "ownage" was a person twisting the words of, IMO, a perfectly clear point in an attempt to make it otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by duhoh
Either way,...the Spurs nor the Celts seem to have a good chance at a championship. The homer in me can see a Spurs turnaround, but the reality is neither team is likely to do so.
But I dont believe they are healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Speaking of lame....You go to the grammatical error approach.Quote:
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You go to your "vagina monologue" approach. Whatever the hell that is.Quote:
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And you obviously got offended and defensive on the comment I made about you being jealous, which I find quite comical.Quote:
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Like I said if you have anything more to say PM me. I'm done.
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If you have anything more to say to me or want to know where I live PM me. I'm done here.
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Once again, why would I want to PM you? You are a weird, lame, annoying poster, at least as of late.
I could care less what you think. I'm done though. You can PM me to continue your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
No, I pointed out how the Celtics could get to the finals, I didn't say anything about them winning a championship though. Yet another example of you lacking basic reading comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
What happened to "raising the bar"? I'm including our fearless leader timvp in this for feeding the troll.
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At the time I said that, it applied. Way to take it out of context.
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Smack off, 2010 .. starting it early ..
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Nice; phenomenal, even ...