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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
See how easy it is? See how retarded your point is?
Injuries happen. They didn't injure themselves on purpose. Neither wanted to have inuries, and they both wanted to be healthy when the team needed them.
it's just out of their control, period.
Huh? Duncan's 41 pts and 15 rebs is why the Spurs lost game 7?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
Huh? Duncan's 41 pts and 15 rebs is why the Spurs lost game 7?
No, Duncan having planar fasciitis is why it even got to a game 7. Remember Diop looking like Wilt Chamberlain?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
No, Duncan having planar fasciitis is why it even got to a game 7. Remember Diop looking like Wilt Chamberlain?
No. I remember Diop looking like Ian Mahinmi.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
No. I remember Diop looking like Ian Mahinmi.
Then dust off the tapes and take another look at OT in game 7...
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
I don't know if this is a bargaining tactic by Manu or if it was translated incorrectly but that "And I owe it to myself." sounds like he's pretty pissed at the Spurs.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
This is so pointless. Manu had his extension and he left it on the table, yes or no?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
Allanon
I don't know if this is a bargaining tactic by Manu or if it was translated incorrectly but that "And I owe it to myself." sounds like he's pretty pissed at the Spurs.
Why would he be?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
And BTW, I don't hold anything against Duncan... he is a warrior and gave us all he could give us. Same for Manu in the series against NO in 2008, when he was already injured.
Shit like this happens. Players get banged up and injured. I'm not going to hold it against them because they left it all out there for the team.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Why would he be?
I dunno. I don't keep up with the Manu situation. You guys know better than me.
All I read was a couple of weeks ago where he said that "lost innocence" line. Then he adds this which sounds like he's saying "F the loyalties, this one's for me."
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
This is so pointless. Manu had his extension and he left it on the table, yes or no?
No, the Spurs took it off the table when he didn't reject playing for the NT in Beijing.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
Diop came in rested, he only played 10 minutes. Duncan played 50. Duncan left it all on the court, he needed two bags of fluid after that game.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
See how easy it is? See how retarded your point is?
Injuries happen. They didn't injure themselves on purpose. Neither wanted to have inuries, and they both wanted to be healthy when the team needed them.
it's just out of their control, period.
It's sure that Duncan was damn bad against Mavs in 06. :rolleyes
And RIF.
Have I said it was Manu's fault that he was injured? No.
Spurs have paid a lot of money a player who wasn't able to help them when they needed him. It's quite unreal that this player whines because he didn't get an extension.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
duncan228
Diop came in rested, he only played 10 minutes. Duncan played 50. Duncan left it all on the court, he needed two bags of fluid after that game.
No doubt. And Duncan played with planar fasciitis pretty much almost all season. He was a warrior, always been. Even last season with the knees banged up, he still showed up to play hard every night.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
No, the Spurs took it off the table when he didn't reject playing for the NT in Beijing.
No. The said here Manu, make your decision. He made the decision. He walked away.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
:lol at comparing Duncan to Manu. Duncan lead the team to 4 titles. Manu?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
And RIF.
Have I said it was Manu's fault that he was injured? No.
No, you said he was paid a lot to suck against Vujacic, when you know damn well he has been injured since the Suns series.
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
Spurs have paid a lot of money a player who wasn't able to help them when they needed him. It's quite unreal that this player whines because he didn't get an extension.
How is he whining? He's saying that he's convinced he'll get to free agency and that he'll decide then. He's not asking the Spurs for anything.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
No. The said here Manu, make your decision. He made the decision. He walked away.
Not according to what Manu said. He said contract negotiations with his agent were in place until the traveled to Argentina to start the rehab in his ankle. At that point, and this is according to him, the Spurs decided to unilaterally terminate conversations.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
:lol at comparing Duncan to Manu. Duncan lead the team to 4 titles. Manu?
Who's comparing Duncan to Manu at leading the team to titles? Strawman much?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
No, the Spurs took it off the table when he didn't reject playing for the NT in Beijing.
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Not according to what Manu said. He said contract negotiations with his agent were in place until the traveled to Argentina to start the rehab in his ankle. At that point, and this is according to him, the Spurs decided to unilaterally terminate conversations.
So which is it? Did they offer him something? Or were they just talking and never made an offer once he left for Argentina?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Who's comparing Duncan to Manu at leading the team to titles? Strawman much?
You said "your argument sucks because in the years we did not win, Tim was getting paid to not help"...and you brought up Diop.
Tim gets a pass that Manu does not because of what he has done. And the comparison of Tim vs Diop moment, versus Manu season(s) long injuries is crazy.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
No, you said he was paid a lot to suck against Vujacic, when you know damn well he has been injured since the Suns series.
And?
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
How is he whining? He's saying that he's convinced he'll get to free agency and that he'll decide then. He's not asking the Spurs for anything.
Then re-read what he is saying.
Strangely I'm not the only one who thinks he is whining. We should be all wrong and you should be right.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
So which is it? Did they offer him something? Or were they just talking and never made an offer once he left for Argentina?
They stopped negotiations when he left for Argentina to start the rehab. Obviously it was a way to pressure him.
The extent of his 'whining' is that he has expressed he's disappointed that the Spurs haven't come back to the table since then.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
with manus past history of injuries i dont see any other logical thing to do then to wait this season out and see if he can stay healthy... the spurs are doing this the right way. manu on the other hand... isn't. and i dont see any reason for manu to be upset by this decision by the spurs especially with his past injuries.
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
They stopped negotiations when he left for Argentina to start the rehab. Obviously it was a way to pressure him.
The extent of his 'whining' is that he has expressed he's disappointed that the Spurs haven't come back to the table since then.
Why would they? So you are saying there was definitely no official offer?
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Re: David Aldridge on Manu Ginobili
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
Then re-read what he is saying.
Strangely I'm not the only one who thinks he is whining. We should be all wrong and you should be right.
I still don't see where's the whining...
- He was asked about his contract situation.
- He said he's disappointed that the Spurs didn't offer and extension and that he'll take a look at his options in June.
Where's the whining exactly?