Jefferson needs to go now

This is what i really don't understand, so if any of you get it let me know. Why do Pop keep giving RJ minutes when he continue to suck and keep Mason and others on the bench? If any other player suck like that, they sure to sit on the bench for at least couple of games.

RJ doesn't seem to be the right fit for your system. Team chemistry is a tough thing to evaluate. It's not quite as simple as plugging someone's statistics into a roster. Lakers had a similar problem with Gary Payton. At least RJ doesn't seem to pout.

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Originally Posted by DeJuanitoBlair

I posted this about 4 months ago, yet many of you dumbasses. YES DUMBASSES praised RJ stats and talked about it was a rash unjustified comment.

There is a reason why Rasheed didn't come here. RJ is that reason (and the obvious lack of frontline). Sheed and TD go way back, there was no reason for him not to come here.

Anyway I'm going to get to the point. Spurs fans have become morons. Pop coaches one dimensional that relies on players that can play D. Been that way for over a decade, HAVENT ANY OF YOU PAID ATTENTION? We don't have players that can play D anymore, that was obvious this summer.

So glad to be out of SA, town is full of morons and taking the Spurs down with them. Duncan is likely..... no IS more of an academic that 90% of the population and HE"S A BASKETBALL PLAYER.

We should have traded for Stephen Jackson...We'd be#1 in the west right now. Just look what Larry Brown is doing with him.

I hope you all die in boiling oil this week

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says the fuckin moron who thought haislip would be the next rasheed wallace. that alone makes you moron of the forum.

Most of the observations about Jefferson by Collins and Harlan were, he is playing with no confidence, he is not doing anything else, not playing D, not rebounding, stuff that RJ doesn't need Tony or the ball to be able to do, that he looks lost, Several times collins made note that both Manu and RJ needed to step up their game and show some consistency and tonight manu did that, but then Manu does so many other things to help his team and in comparison RJ is just out there. At one point he was 1 of 8 and man he clunked some wide open looks. One play that stood out to me was in the fourth when the Lakers lost the ball and Blair made a great hustle play by saving the ball to Jefferson who just looked at it and one of the Lakers got it and it led to a score. Tony or the system have nothing to do with effort.

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Originally Posted by nbaman99

This is what i really don't understand, so if any of you get it let me know. Why do Pop keep giving RJ minutes when he continue to suck and keep Mason and others on the bench? If any other player suck like that, they sure to sit on the bench for at least couple of games.

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Why? $15 million sitting on the bench is a bitter pill.

RJ isn't our biggest problem, Popovich is.

its obvious rj has no confidence its like hes literally shriveled up and died out there hes a fckn corpse on the basketball floor

i dont know if hes trying to hard not getting enough touches or what but he is 15 million garbage

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Originally Posted by nevitt_&_smrek

RJ doesn't seem to be the right fit for your system. Team chemistry is a tough thing to evaluate. It's not quite as simple as plugging someone's statistics into a roster. Lakers had a similar problem with Gary Payton. At least RJ doesn't seem to pout.

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Oh, but he does.... like a little bitch. He's so mentally soft it's not even funny. That's his biggest problem, and he's letting it pile up on himself.

i dont know when people are going to relize that jefferson is not the reason why we lost tonight or many games this year

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Originally Posted by DeJuanitoBlair

I posted this about 4 months ago, yet many of you dumbasses. YES DUMBASSES praised RJ stats and talked about it was a rash unjustified comment.

There is a reason why Rasheed didn't come here. RJ is that reason (and the obvious lack of frontline). Sheed and TD go way back, there was no reason for him not to come here.

Anyway I'm going to get to the point. Spurs fans have become morons. Pop coaches one dimensional that relies on players that can play D. Been that way for over a decade, HAVENT ANY OF YOU PAID ATTENTION? We don't have players that can play D anymore, that was obvious this summer.

So glad to be out of SA, town is full of morons and taking the Spurs down with them. Duncan is likely..... no IS more of an academic that 90% of the population and HE"S A BASKETBALL PLAYER.

We should have traded for Stephen Jackson...We'd be#1 in the west right now. Just look what Larry Brown is doing with him.

I hope you all die in boiling oil this week

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:lmao no one gets credit for hindsight 20/20 "genius", especially in sports. Anyone can throw crap on the wall and go nuts when one of them sticks.

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Originally Posted by spursowntexas

i dont know when people are going to relize that jefferson is not the reason why we lost tonight or many games this year

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+1

+1 for Pop being the real problem...not necessarily RJ

And yet his shooting % for the season is 45% on 2s and 35% on 3s. PPG is 12.2 60% on FTs.

Not great but not all that bad when you figure he's not getting as many shots as in the past since he is the 4th place as a shooter.

But he hasn't been a difference maker on this team. So he's getting most of the blame.

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Originally Posted by SPURSOWNTEXAS

i dont know when people are going to relize that jefferson is not the reason why we lost tonight or many games this year

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He might not be THE reason but he's still a big contributing factor. If he would at least show some heart out there and play some d I would be cool as hell with that, but he makes some of the dumbest defensive mistakes I have ever seen a player with his tenure make.

Yea, sorry... saying we should have gotten Jack over RJ was not throwing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks..... It was common fuckin sense.

Corey Maggette or Vince Carter > RJ

I don't give a shit what anyone else says.

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Originally Posted by nbaman99

Its one thing missing shots, but to have no fire or desire to win is killing me
So please Spurs trade his ass.

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The LEAST he could do if he's not scoring points is hunker down on defense and stop being such a pussy. No doubt that wedding fiasco fucked his shit up and he's not mentally in the game. :nope

obviously we have to get some help defending the paint, but...

got damn, when are people going to stop making excuses for jefferson?

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Originally Posted by dro210

when are people going to stop making excuses for jefferson?

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+1111111

Call it a loss and put RJ on the reserve list and call Hairston in! heh, Hairston has played even better then RJ in his limited garbage time.

blame it on jeff all you want.....jeff ain't the problem pop is.....his coaching sucks right now....

A simple question- are we going to make the playoffs playing like this and without a trade?

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Originally Posted by nbaman99

We have 10 days to ship his ass and get a good player. I was always defended him when so many other spurs fans wanted him traded long time ago. I was wrong and i no longer support him on this team. Its one thing missing shots, but to have no fire or desire to win is killing me
So please Spurs trade his ass.

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He definitely should go but, OLD Pop is just too damn hardheaded to admit he has been wrong......again!!!

Pop, RJ & Dice should give their 2009/2010 salaries back to Peter Holt. None of them have earned a damned dime this season!