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Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
Why does everyone see this except for pop?why is pop soo stupid that he continues to play small ball?even fans like us who have never coached can see it and he has bigs to play but he wants to play RJ at PF.Why??????
Lets all go to the spurs practice facility and protest seriously.
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
the spurs need marcin gortat. Tony Parker for Nelson + gortat?
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Originally Posted by
SinBAD
he has bigs to play but he wants to play RJ at PF.Why??????
I don't know, that's a little harsh.
It wasn't just RJ at PF, I'm pretty sure there was some Finley too! :lol
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he has 2 bigs on the bench!!!!! 1 is 21 years old and can jump over the backboard....wtf???
Dude played in one game and destroyed the opponent but yet he can't get any run...
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Where's the "no shit" icon?
Even if we had him, pop would rather play Jefferson or Finely at PF and leave Tim at the rim by himself. :rolleyes
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Originally Posted by
Darthkiller
the spurs need marcin gortat. Tony Parker for Nelson + gortat?
I would trade Pop for Van Gundy.
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Somebody tell me why we signed Ratliff? You're telling me he couldn't have blocked a shot or two or grabbed a board today, instead of playing RJ and Fin at PF?
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Originally Posted by
rayray2k8
Where's the "no shit" icon?
Even if we had him, pop would rather play Jefferson or Finely at PF and leave Tim at the rim by himself. :rolleyes
true, we could have Howard on this team and Pop would most likely just let him warm the bench.
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
I would trade Pop for Lawrence Frank.
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Can't watch the spurs anymore its driving me crazy......pop is killing this team with this smallball....pop don't you get it small ball doesn't work we need bigs in the line up
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Somebody tell me why we signed Ratliff? You're telling me he couldn't have blocked a shot or two or grabbed a board today, instead of playing RJ and Fin at PF?
him an ian are irrelevant at this point dont know why really
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Somebody tell me why we signed Ratliff? You're telling me he couldn't have blocked a shot or two or grabbed a board today, instead of playing RJ and Fin at PF?
He has to be saved for the playoffs.
Where he'll still sit on a bench while RJ and Finley bang with the big boys.
Sooooo, oh, you're right. My bad.
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
It's bad enough to possibly have a 1st round talent big sitting on the bench but what makes it worse is when your team wouldn't be affected by his deficiencies at all because it is getting its ass kicked already!
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
I don't blame the players I blame pop!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I Doubt there will be any trades for the spurs
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Originally Posted by
slick'81
him an ian are irrelevant at this point dont know why really
They're both taller than 6'8" ? Other than that, I got nothing.
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Originally Posted by
spurtech09
I don't blame the players I blame pop!!!!!!!!!!!!
:toast thank you someone finally relizes why the spurs are struggling
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:lmao
Spurs fans have been saying this all season!!
You think Poopavich is gonna listen?
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NO SHYT, we all saw this months ago here... NO TRADE NO PLAYOFFS, if we do make it we are out in round one. This team is in trouble.
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Seriously now, if Popovich doesn't plan to play Ian or Theo then the FO should absolutely trade to get a bigman that Pop trusts.
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WE NEED A CENTER!!!
Duncan = PF
Dice = PF
Blair = PF
Bonner = PF
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Somebody tell me why we signed Ratliff? You're telling me he couldn't have blocked a shot or two or grabbed a board today, instead of playing RJ and Fin at PF?
Thats what I dont understand.. why the hell would pop play small ball and just watch the spurs while they struggle to get a stop in the paint and at getting rebounds? Its so damn obvious ratliff would have made a huge difference on the court. What the hell is pop saving him for? The playoffs? The spurs might not even make the playoffs. :bang
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
fire pop and hire avery johnson
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ian mihimini for hamed haddadi
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Originally Posted by
SinBAD
Lets all go to the spurs practice facility and protest seriously.
Wouldn't that be crazy if 50+ people organized outside the practice facility holding up signs asking for a defensive Big to take the pressure off our scorers trying to do 100 things at once and managing to do none of them? And wouldn't it be crazier if Pop came out and told us wtf is the deal with playing small ball and it turns out he's been resting Ratliff and Manhimi for the playoffs...like secret weapons! :bang
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Especially now that we don't have Bowen to shut down the other teams hottest guy on the perimeter....its time to get back some resemblance to the Twin Towers
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Yep. Everyone knows this, but it seems to not matter. We still play Small Ball, even though its a system that doesn't work in the Playoffs or against good teams. This is a Big Man's Game, and we need Big Men to win.
What the fuck was the point of signing Theo Ratliff if we weren't going to use him? Seriously, what the fuck? I really want to know the answer to this question because its really starting to piss me off.
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Time for Pop to pull out his greatest CIA move ever. He needs to go to Danny Ferry and say if you value the life as you know it, you're trading Lebron for Jefferson straight up. If not, so help me god I'm going Jack Bauer on you and I'm also bringing up dirt you didn't even know you had.
:)
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I remember early in the season when they lost to Denver or Phoenix (can't remember). I was reading how many fans out there were bashing some of the "realist" posters who knew this team was going nowhere. Where are they now?
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A defensive big not named Duncan will only ride the pine, since Pop loves midget ball.
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pop's foolishness is goin to cost us the season
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It's a miracle Pop even plays Blair. Really think about it. Pop just loves old vets, no matter their size. He's trying to milk these guys for everything they have left, but there isn't anymore. While that's happening guys that maybe could make a difference aren't playing. I can't defend Pop anymore..
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Originally Posted by
Nathan Explosion
Time for Pop to pull out his greatest CIA move ever. He needs to go to Danny Ferry and say if you value the life as you know it, you're trading Lebron for Jefferson straight up. If not, so help me god I'm going Jack Bauer on you and I'm also bringing up dirt you didn't even know you had.
:)
:lmao
or he could also point a gun at Pat Riley to trade him D-Wade
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Originally Posted by
Buddy Holly
:lmao
I doubt Nellie is that stupid
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Monta Ellis is poopy.
I have him on my fantasy team and he scores a ton but takes ill-advised shots and commits a sick number or turnovers.
I'd take Maggette b/c he gets to the line a bunch.
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
Spurs need a 6-9, 6-10 athletic big to defend the likes of Odom, Dirk, and the like. For no other reason, just to kill small ball. Please.
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
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Originally Posted by
SinBAD
Why does everyone see this except for pop?why is pop soo stupid that he continues to play small ball?even fans like us who have never coached can see it and he has bigs to play but he wants to play RJ at PF.Why??????
Lets all go to the spurs practice facility and protest seriously.
News Flash,..
Chucks waaaayyy late on this one,..
It's been explained in detail specifics here,.. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=142505&page=5
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Having Blair and Bonner as our Bench Bigs is 100% fail defensively. Blair is good, but no matter how good he is, he is only 6"7, and that hurts us A LOT defensively. Having Bonner in there with him really is just a joke.
I thought this was why we signed Ratliff? And what about Mahinmi? Does Pop hate Big Men or something? He stresses Defense so much but then puts in these crappy small ball lineups? Doesn't he understand how stupid that is?
Ugh, save us Tiago.
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AJ would take this team to the Finals...
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Barkely doesn't watch the Spurs on a consistent basis. He watches the Spurs at least 10 times a year in the regular season give and take.
He's taking what he saw out of last nights game, which we played small ball for at least 20 minutes out of the entire 48 minutes.
McDyess has been playing great the past few weeks. He's more than capable just as much or more than any big man realistically available. Spurs also have Mahimni and Ratliff who they never use.
Pop needs to use his personnel correctly. He has been one of the best X's and O's coach in league history but the past two years, he's been one of the worst at game management in terms of substitutions in certain situations.
I take Barkely's opinion with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by
Buddy Holly
That trade is pathetic.
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Hopefully we have all learned a valuable lesson. No matter how many good perimeter players you have (TP/Manu/RJ/Hill) The game is won in the paint by the big men scoring down low and protecting there own basket defensively. Remember when.......Duncan/Robinson - Duncan/Mohammed - Duncan/Oberto. Then the bottom fell out - Duncan/Bonner - Duncan/RJ. RJ stinks yes, but playing PF was not what he was brought in for. He is expected to stop guys who are 6-10 and taller while he gets no opportunity to punish them on the other end. He sucks, but that still not fair to him. The spurs were good cause they would build a defensive wall starting from the perimeter forcing guys to the side and eventually to the baseline or underneath the basket surrounded by big men. Now just run a simple pick n roll at the top and you have a clear path to the basket against the spurs with minimal if any help. Small ball can win games here and there, but in the playoffs and against solid contending teams it means nothing. Note - the 2004-2007 suns. Yeah they were exciting to watch but where did it get them?
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
pop plays smallball cause he's an idiot. If even you the fans can realize that smallball aint the answer, I guess that makes Popo the dumbest person in the world. Uh Pop, you played and knocked off the Suns how many times cause they were playing smallball. Lots right. So why do you think emulating the Suns is gonna help you win? You are a complete dismal-dreaming bum-baily....
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Originally Posted by
spurtech09
Can't watch the spurs anymore its driving me crazy......pop is killing this team with this smallball....pop don't you get it small ball doesn't work we need bigs in the line up
Also running Bruce Bowen plays for Jefferson don't work. He's stuck in the CS days of 05 & 06. Jefferson don't need 2 go, Parker with his I wanna play for my NT ass needs to go. He can't set anybody up but Duncan. Pop needs to get new plays. He run all kinda plays for Hill but we Paid millions more for Jefferson. That's crazy. He has no Sf plays in his playbook but sit in the corner & the ones he's always ran for Finely. Jefferson has had a couple sig plays ran for him an he made good on them. POP ITS TIME FOR A NEW!
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Small ball WOULD work if RJ, Tony, Hill, Mason, Bogans were hitting their GOTDAYUM shots!!! All I saw was wide open CLANKS last night........
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Originally Posted by
tdunk21
fire pop and hire avery johnson
:tu
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Originally Posted by
EP Money Man
WE NEED A CENTER!!!
Duncan = PF
Dice = PF
Blair = PF
Bonner = SG in PF body
fify
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Pop Needs to Step Down, and the Spurs Need To Acquire A center... someone Who Is At Least 6'11 who plays Defense, And Rebounds well. Im tired Of Our Centers being Between 6'6 and 6'9...... Sean Elliott is 6'8 might as well bring him out of retirement and start him at center. At least he will knock down a Open shot!
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I would not mind Pop moving to the front office and Avery Johnson coming in. It would need to happen after this season though. I want to see Pop turn the corner and at least compete in the playoffs. I don't want him to go out like this. He needs to change his thinking though.
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This is why you can no longer really point the finger at any player. The problem starts with Pop and will not start to be solved until Pop ditches the small ball. It does not matter whether he uses more of his own bigs or gets them in a trade. The Spurs are effectively frozen until Pop is able to change his mind.
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Whoever we get needs to be smart and mentally strong. Obviously some players just aren't fit for our complicated system, or the pressure of playing on a "contender".
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The Jefferson deal just killed us.. Manu is not what he was, and RJ needed to pick up the slack on O and play good D. He has done neither..
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It all started with the infamous Scola trade :bang
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I think most coaches would get more out of the Spurs current personnel including RJ than our dumbfuck coach Pop. He's sooo stupid continuously shuffling the lineup, playing small ball, overplaying undersized poor shooters, not playing the true bigs we have and overworking Tim. No trade will help the Spurs if that player is going to be coached by this moron. McDyess and RJ have been huge disappointments but they should still have had better production at this time.
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Originally Posted by
Buddy Holly
Why not this one :rolleyes
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yh5jwey
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Originally Posted by
Chomag
true, we could have Howard on this team and Pop would most likely just let him warm the bench.
Well c'mon we don't want to be unfair to the Lakers. They didn't have Bynum remember, it would have been pretty rude for us to take advantage of that by using bigger lineups.
Fortunately Pop realized it before it was too late and played small ball for THE ENTIRE FOURTH FUCKING QUARTER AGAINST THE GOD DAMNED LA LAKERS!:bang
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Re: Charles Barekly:Spurs need a defensive Big!
Link the the TNT Overtime and Charles' and Brent's comments
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tn...nba/index.html