Agreed! Its Not about Fitting In, Its about Showing Effort..... And RJ Has Yet To Show Consistent Effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muser
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Agreed! Its Not about Fitting In, Its about Showing Effort..... And RJ Has Yet To Show Consistent Effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muser
Wojnarowski wrote a hellava piece, Express News never comes close to that.
No it didn't. Do you approve of Pop turning a slasher/finisher with a decent shot into a full time spot up jumpshooter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
“…For some reason, I’m not getting through to this group.”
Perhaps maybe you have lost the respect and trust of your team Pop? Maybe instead of blamming the players for not trusting each out there and gelling you should blame yourself for losing their trust? Get a clue Pop.
I agree.... I dont think The Players Have that same Respect For him Like they used to....Quote:
Originally Posted by Chomag
Yeah, it's not only Jefferson. Mason is in the dog house. Bogans gets promoted and then demoted. Last night Pop was yelling at Tim and Tim looked like he was tuning him out. The Spurs are not responding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukefal
The Spurs have seemingly stopped listening to Pop. I'm willing to bet the entire team thinks small ball is bullshit. You saw Tim not really paying attention to Pop when he was yelling at him. Pop has lost his team.
pop tries to make rj work in the system but hes not comfortable/capable of playing power fucking forward as simple as that.
Not defending RJ here, but Pop is the one calling all the shots...and he has lost it.
How many different lineups? How many times do players get pulled AFTER hitting a couple of shots in a row? How many chances has Ian really had? Hairston?
Small ball!...stagnant play calling, throwing players under the bus, betraying Bruce, Finley over Barry, Mason,----Finley over anybody, Bonner on the court at any time...etc,
It goes on and on...I really appreciate what Pop did in the PAST---but this is a fast sinking ship...and Pop getting angrier and throwing more players under the bus while continuing with ridiculous lineups is disheartening for everyone...
Pop needs to be the better man, at least to save face---and REMOVE himself---promote himself to the fr ofc...
Avery could be a 1 to 2 year band aid---because he also wears on players...but at least this 1 or 2 year break could rejuvenate Pop again...or not.
Yeah but isn't that just Tim being Tim? He always looks disinterested ya know?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog
Okay so make the move for Salmons and Thomas, sit RJ and can the small ball. Trade RJ next year when his expiring contract has value. No Brainer here. But what will Pop do? Continue to play a confidence shot player out of position and expect him to come around. There is no more season until Pop drops the small ball love. Then maybe RJ could build some confidence playing his natural position and without the pressure of being the guy that's here to beat the Lakers.
When did Pop tell jefferson to stop driving to the basket? when did he tell him to quit dunking the ball? When did he tell him to be less aggressive going to the basket trying to draw fouls? Sorry, but all the "its Pops fault" crap is rediculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Pop still refuses to take any of the blame. I'm sure it's hard to "get to" any group when you're doing a joke of a coaching job.
Yes, that's just his manner. This is Tim whenever Pop has yelled at him throughout his career. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSpursFNRule
It's not Pop's fault that RJ missed 9 for 11 shots, including several wide open ones. Pop IS underutilizing RJ though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
So he needs more than 11 shots?Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
He needs a lot less jump shots more like..Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
I think he'd benefit from a steady 14-16 shots and he needs to be used more in the isolation. He's not Dale Ellis for Christ sake. This coming off of picks for jumpers doesn't do any justice if he's not already in the offensive flow of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
I completely agree that Pop isn't using RJ how he should be, but RJ also needs to hit some of the open jumpers he gets. He's a decent enough shooter to be able to hit them. He just hasn't done it much this year.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog
Pop should use jefferson to impress opponents with some smashing dunks.
In the warmups.
If trade isnt possible I suggest bench Dick for whole his contract. Like T-Mac. I find it like a solution, opportunity to raise an anchor, make team-chemistry up!
I've always thought that K. Bryant had the biggest ego in the NBA. Now I know that I'm wrong. Gregg Popovich has the biggest ego.
Pop literally said upon acquiring RJ that he wanted him to become the defensive presence he was as a young player. In other words, he wanted him to become something he's not.
Popovich has tried to make RJ become Bruce Bowen. Well, he's not. And 99% of the league would say that RJ is a better player than Bruce Bowen. However, Popovich hasn't allowed RJ to be RJ, and consequently the Spurs have suffered greatly.
It is the coach's responsibility to get the most out his players every night. I think it's abundantly clear that "this group" is the most underachieving team in the NBA this year. In fact, the team Popovich himself assembled is the team he refers to as "this group," as if he had nothing to do with it.
Popovich isn't taking responsibility for these failures - he is merely pointing fingers and throwing players under the bus.
If I'm a guy like Manu, why would I want to re-sign for even more years under this guy? It is increasingly obvious that any success Popovich has had as a coach is directly attributable to Tim Duncan, and also to David Robinson, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker.
One thing we've never seen is our team not playing hard. We've always been a bit inconsistent, even in championship years, sometimes coming out flat in the first quarter before turning it on. But this year, there is confusion, waywardness, and a consistent lack of care, which has led to unprecedented turnovers and prolonged defensive lapses.
The Spurs' $79 million payroll is healthy right now. The truth is, it's all on Popovich.
I know RJ is the most popular whipping boy, but the team as a whole (coach included) has just flat out sucked. Other than the big 3, everyone is relatively new and just haven't developed any sort of trust out there. And let's not excuse Pop from this discussion, he's put out some funky small ball lineups and substitutions that can't possibly be successful for long stretches of the game.
I'd say this is THE worst Spur team heading into the All-Star break in the Duncan era.
Pop: KEEP SCREAMING!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursfanfromafar
Or Pop can ask him to guard the gatorade. Oh wait... that might be asking to much D from Jefferson.:downspin:Quote:
Originally Posted by temujin