Tim Duncan called a team meeting?

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

It bugs me how professional sports players can underperform and still bank big bucks, while the rest of us make much less and would surely get fired for repeated poor job performance.

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They have a union and a contract. Try to get anyone fired for poor performance who has both of those. It is not just athletes. Wait until your kid gets a bad teacher.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

Tim: Okay let's get started. This is nothing personal: RJ, you're playing like shit, Finley: you're too old, retire. Tony, stop living the Hollywood life style, it's fucking us up. Manu, grow your damn hair out. McDyess, it's not your fault you play well and pop sits your, it's just that you're not David Robinson, or Robert Horry, or francisco or rasho. George, keep it covered up. Haislip... Where the hell did haislip go? You know what-fuck it. Matt, dunk more. Theo, go back in time to when you were not 63 and Pop will play you. Ian, yeah...

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:lol gold

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Originally Posted by phyzik

My co-worker just came in and said he was listening to Ticket 760 and their "sources" said Tim Duncan had a team meeting and basically told the whole team get there shit together, its his team, and if they dont start playing some of them are not going to be there next year.

Anyone confirm this was at least on the radio?

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I think it's pretty safe to assume your buddy caught the tail-end of a rant/conversation that's become the norm for a certain blowhard that does his show around that time.

Let me see if I can channel Taylor. . .

(*clears throat*) Something to the effect of: This just ain't going great. This teams old, they're busted. . . they've got to make a move. Right?

I know you guy's get sick of me talking about Amar'e, but I'm telling you. . . I've always believed Amar'e should be KG. And I know the knock on him is that he doesn't play any D but, hell. . . they can't stop anybody. Might as well go out there and get a guy who's going to get you 20 and 10. I mean, you got to do something, right? I don't know, man. . . Good Lord, Jim Bob! Are you sure she's of age? Good God almighty. . .

I don't know, man, but someone needs to do something. Hell, Tim needs to be dog-cussin' these sumbitches. Ya know, I really want to hear from some kind of source that Tim's called some kind of team meeting and just ripped them a new one. I don't know, man. . . These goings on are depressing; how 'bout dem Cowboys?!?

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

The situations are not even comparable.

-Pro athletes are in the top 0.001% of what they do, and can't be easily replaced. Almost none of "the rest of us" are as good at what we do as pro athletes are at what they do, and they can always pick up somebody else to do our job without missing much of a beat.

-If you find a better job, you can just leave and pursue another job in the free market. Pro athletes are tied down by a contract in a near-monopolistic economic structure. If you want them to be like "the rest of us", then they should be able to quit and play for another team when they don't like their current one.

-Pro athletes have a much shorter career span. Three years is nothing to our careers, it may be 50% of theirs.

Would you take a job where you got a baseline low salary, and then every week the company compared their bottom line to their competitors, and if they didn't make more than their competitors, you didn't get any more money? That's exactly what you proposed, and the end result is that everybody would only want to work for the biggest companies.

Back in the 70s the Spurs used to structure contracts so that players would get a bonus for every win after a certain number (I think it was 46 or 48). That had some merit to it, but I think the NBA eventually allowed those clauses.

Sorry to unload like this, but it's always a pet peeve of mine when people try to compare their jobs to that of a pro athlete.

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So many flaws to this analogy compared to what was being stated I can't even begin to start.

In fact if I addressed every quote it would probably take up to 2 pages just to rebute.

Bottomline...these players get paid well. Deservedly so. I won't argue that.

But being paid well compared to fiscal rape is a different story. The current and past salary structure these player's receive is one of the main reasons for the fiscal problems that exist today in professional sports.

And it's hard for me to feel sorry for someone's inability to manage a measily 2 million dollars a year into something they could live off of for the rest of their lives if all they could manage to professionally play is one year. They do have brains. They could invest...further their education...take the education some of them receive and apply it to continuing their lives...become a multitude of other things and benefit from those other things after life of professional sports is done. So it's not like playing professional sports is the only thing they can do to support themselves. In fact...playing professional sports probably helps to catepult other endeavors of fiscal gain that many outside that realm would ever have a chance to benefit from just because they were professional athletes.

But hey...it is the way it is. And that's the way it works.

But I call BS to that analogy of why it should work that way.

Sorry to unload that way but it's always been a pet peeve of mine when others try to justify poor rich souls. :toast

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Originally Posted by objective

Tim Duncan : "Some of you guys aren't going to be here next year!"

Ian and Mason look at each other, then back at Duncan: "We know. We know."

Matt Bonner: "Well . . . I'm getting a new contract! I'm not going anywhere!"

Michael Finley: "Me too!"

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Damn, we are screwed if those two worthless wonders get a new contract LOL!

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

So many flaws to this analogy compared to what was being stated I can't even begin to start.

In fact if I addressed every quote it would probably take up to 2 pages just to rebute.

Bottomline...these players get paid well. Deservedly so. I won't argue that.

But being paid well compared to fiscal rape is a different story. The current and past salary structure these player's receive is one of the main reasons for the fiscal problems that exist today in professional sports.

And it's hard for me to feel sorry for someone's inability to manage a measily 2 million dollars a year into something they could live off of for the rest of their lives if all they could manage to professionally play is one year. They do have brains. They could invest...further their education...take the education some of them receive and apply it to continuing their lives...become a multitude of other things and benefit from those other things after life of professional sports is done. So it's not like playing professional sports is the only thing they can do to support themselves. In fact...playing professional sports probably helps to catepult other endeavors of fiscal gain that many outside that realm would ever have a chance to benefit from just because they were professional athletes.

But hey...it is the way it is. And that's the way it works.

But I call BS to that analogy of why it should work that way.

Sorry to unload that way but it's always been a pet peeve of mine when others try to justify poor rich souls. :toast

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Reading comprehension you lack it. Projection, you have it down. You missed what he was saying and you substituted in its place what you hate hearing.

Oh and it wasn't an analogy.

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Originally Posted by SpurNation

So many flaws to this analogy compared to what was being stated I can't even begin to start.

In fact if I addressed every quote it would probably take up to 2 pages just to rebute.

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So instead you addressed none of them and spewed on a bunch of unrelated topics gnawing away at you.

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Bottomline...these players get paid well. Deservedly so. I won't argue that.

But being paid well compared to fiscal rape is a different story. The current and past salary structure these player's receive is one of the main reasons for the fiscal problems that exist today in professional sports.

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I guess we should find that guy holding the gun to the owners' heads.

Here's a primer: the discussion was paying for performance, and whether pro athletes should get paid like "real people" do. My points were: 1) it doesn't make sense to pay players like that, and 2) the system proposed (paying players based on team wins) has NO relationship to how "real people" get paid.

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And it's hard for me to feel sorry for someone's inability to manage a measily 2 million dollars a year into something they could live off of for the rest of their lives if all they could manage to professionally play is one year. They do have brains. They could invest...further their education...take the education some of them receive and apply it to continuing their lives...become a multitude of other things and benefit from those other things after life of professional sports is done. So it's not like playing professional sports is the only thing they can do to support themselves. In fact...playing professional sports probably helps to catepult other endeavors of fiscal gain that many outside that realm would ever have a chance to benefit from just because they were professional athletes.

But hey...it is the way it is. And that's the way it works.

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I'm sorry you're so bitter about that. Sounds like a personal problem, has nothing to do with the topic.

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But I call BS to that analogy of why it should work that way.

Sorry to unload that way but it's always been a pet peeve of mine when others try to justify poor rich souls. :toast

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Again, nothing to do with the point, but it's interesting you reserve all your venom for the players and not the owners.

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Originally Posted by The_Worlds_finest

For some reason I am thinking of this song when it comes to Dick Jefferson and the Spurs....

Here we stand
World's apart, hearts broken in two
Sleepless nights
Losing ground
I'm reaching for you

Feelin' that it's gone
Can change your mind
If we can't go on
To survive the tide love divides

*Someday love will find you
Break those chains that bind you
One night will remind you
How we touched and went our separate ways
If he ever hurts you
True love won't desert you
You know I still love you
Though we touched and went our separate ways

Troubled times
Caught between confusion and pain
Distant eyes
Promises we made were in vain

If you must go, I wish you love
You'll never walk alone
Take care my love
Miss you love

(*chorus*)

I still love you girl
I really love you girl
And if he ever hurts you
True love won't desert you
No....no...

:lmao

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you're gay, aren't you?