Re: Greenwald: The criminal NSA eavesdropping program
What's the rate of warrant refusal in the FISA courts again? Like 2 or 3 out of 10,000 or something like that?
Re: Greenwald: The criminal NSA eavesdropping program
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Winehole23
What's the rate of warrant refusal in the FISA courts again? Like 2 or 3 out of 10,000 or something like that?
Basically. Plus they can start tapping and get authorization later. Short of a sweeping and massive fishing expedition on American citizens (basically sidestepping oversight), there's no reason at all to have gone around FISA.
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Doesn't 25 years of executive compliance with FISA and a whole host of other laws, bespeak the opposite of what you're saying, WC?
WC?
If the executive branch submits to laws passed by Congress, doesn't that legitimize the laws de facto?
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Winehole23
Doesn't 25 years of executive compliance with FISA and a whole host of other laws, bespeak the opposite of what you're saying, WC?
Hell No.
Congress cannot dictate a presidents actions.
We have argued this over and over and get no where.
What if congress passed a law that that allowed a 30 year old to run for president, and the president passed it. Can a 30 year old now run for president?
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4cc
could we go to war in iraq without declaring war?
1) Does the constitution cay there must be a declaration of war first?
2) The Commander in Chief was already assumed during the making of the constitution to have that right. It didn't need to be spelled out. The right for congress to declare war in one of two normal executive functions also granted to congress. Since it is not a normal function of the time, it was spelled out.
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Wild Cobra
Hell No.
Congress cannot dictate a presidents actions.
Why then do presidents submit to the authority of law?
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We have argued this over and over and get no where.
Where does the US Constitution say that the President is not subject to law?