Wisconsin DA: Teachers risk arrest over new sex-ed classes

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Where do you get the idea that the schools were telling kids that using a condom would completely eliminate pregnancy?

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Because that's what all libtard sex-ed does.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Ok, so the schools didn't say that. Thx.

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Did you not read everything I said on the topic, or are you just being an ass?

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Teaching a practice is inviting it. Now I agree that many teenagers will have sex. I agree there is proper things to teach. However, as they focus on "how" more and more, they focus less on responsibility and consequences.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Because that's what all libtard sex-ed does.

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Don't get me wrong...I'm not a fan of school facilitated sex education. The loons that craft our curriculum have zero business addressing what is, ostensibly, a familial obligation.

Yeah, I know. Alot of parental shaped units don't bother to address this at all. Regardless, school is not the only avenue to address this. Fuck knows there's a zillion ads, factoids, and "very important" after school specials already.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Did you not read everything I said on the topic, or are you just being an ass?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Teaching a practice is inviting it.

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I'm an ex-teacher. You are catagorically incorrect.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

I'm an ex-teacher. You are catagorically incorrect.

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give he him a break he read that somewhere on a rightwing blog or something..

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

He has a point about teaching condoms being similar to teaching how to mix drinks though. Why don't we have schools al;so teach how to make field expedient explosives while were at it using your own piss and Vaseline.

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The children are not required to attend the sex-ed class, so your point is moot.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

He has a point about teaching condoms being similar to teaching how to mix drinks though.

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Not sure why no one called you out on this one yet. I guess because of all the other mindlessly idiotic things you say. But no. It's nothing like teaching them how to mix drinks. The closest analogy I can think of to alcohol would be the teacher telling the kids how to turn over so they don't aspirate and die when they drunkenly vomit.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Don't get me wrong...I'm not a fan of school facilitated sex education. The loons that craft our curriculum have zero business addressing what is, ostensibly, a familial obligation.

Yeah, I know. Alot of parental shaped units don't bother to address this at all.

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Parents don't know the facts. A lot of people don't understand simple things like why unprotected anal sex is so dangerous. It's just easy to label HIV as something for the gays without recognizing one's hetero daughter can be at the exact same risk.

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Regardless, school is not the only avenue to address this. Fuck knows there's a zillion ads, factoids, and "very important" after school specials already.

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I wouldn't depend on media outlets who constantly throw sex (and always outside of a relationship) at everyone who watches the other 99% of their airtime.

Creepy

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Parents don't know the facts. A lot of people don't understand simple things like why unprotected anal sex is so dangerous. It's just easy to label HIV as something for the gays without recognizing one's hetero daughter can be at the exact same risk.

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Some parents don't know the facts about a great many things. Is it the school's place to rectify this? I only ask as a precursor to a discussion of whether or not we could ever quantify this need.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

I wouldn't depend on media outlets who constantly throw sex (and always outside of a relationship) at everyone who watches the other 99% of their airtime.

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Excellent point I'd not considered.:toast

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Some parents don't know the facts about a great many things. Is it the school's place to rectify this? I only ask as a precursor to a discussion of whether or not we could ever quantify this need.

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I do think it's the schools' responsibility to teach things important to kids. I don't think they should be going in and telling people to just go ahead and ignore consequences like WC always tries to strawman the discussion into, but I do think it's critical for people who are instinctively programmed to want sex (over practically everything else :lol) to learn exactly what the risks are and how to lessen them. I don't know that I'd have them learn how to roll condoms on cucumbers in front of 30 snickering classmates, but I think I would send them home with a pamphlet, a vegetable, and a homework assignment provided they brought a signed permission slip the day before and I had personally talked to a parent on the phone. I do think facts that HIV transmission and pregnancy rates are drastically reduced with proper condom use should be universally taught, unless the child's parent objects. In that case I'd sit him in front of an episode of Sesame Street or something, I guess. The failure rates should definitely be part of the curriculum, but not the main focus. But overall, I think education goes a long way towards one making adult choices like an adult.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Creepy

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you certainly are

Wild Cobra is right!

We teach kids about the holocaust and they go out and round up Jews for extermination in large gas chambers!

It's true!

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

He has a point about teaching condoms being similar to teaching how to mix drinks though. Why don't we have schools al;so teach how to make field expedient explosives while were at it using your own piss and Vaseline.

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I understand your logic, but the results prove otherwise. Teaching abstinence simply fails.

No one has to teach kids how to fuck, it's programmed in to them just like every animal on the planet.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

I do think it's the schools' responsibility to teach things important to kids. I don't think they should be going in and telling people to just go ahead and ignore consequences like WC always tries to strawman the discussion into, but I do think it's critical for people who are instinctively programmed to want sex (over practically everything else :lol) to learn exactly what the risks are and how to lessen them. I don't know that I'd have them learn how to roll condoms on cucumbers in front of 30 snickering classmates, but I think I would send them home with a pamphlet, a vegetable, and a homework assignment provided they brought a signed permission slip the day before and I had personally talked to a parent on the phone. I do think facts that HIV transmission and pregnancy rates are drastically reduced with proper condom use should be universally taught, unless the child's parent objects. In that case I'd sit him in front of an episode of Sesame Street or something, I guess. The failure rates should definitely be part of the curriculum, but not the main focus. But overall, I think education goes a long way towards one making adult choices like an adult.

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I very reasoned response. I dont think I'd disagree with one point. If you aren't already, you're probably gonna make a hell of a good parent.:toast

I fully support this DA. Remove these classes from school.

On top of that, how many pervert teachers are going to have a field day with this?

"and when you place the condom on, make sure the penis is fully erect. Hard and big, you can use your mouth and suck on his penis to get him hard so the condom can be placed correctly!"

I mean jesus fucking christ.

35 year old teachers talking like this to 15 year old girls and boys.

REMOVE !!!!!

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

you certainly are

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You're fucking creepy.


You get your kicks out old 60 year old Miss Willson tearing a condom open with her teeth, sucking on the banana, rubbing her twat then folding the rubber down onto the banana thats your business you sick fuck. Kids don't need to see that sick shit. They can figure it out on there own. It ain't rocket science you dumbass.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

You're fucking creepy.


You get your kicks out old 60 year old Miss Willson tearing a condom open with her teeth, sucking on the banana, rubbing her twat then folding the rubber down onto the banana thats your business you sick fuck. Kids don't need to see that sick shit. They can figure it out on there own. It ain't rocket science you dumbass.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

I fully support this DA. Remove these classes from school.

On top of that, how many pervert teachers are going to have a field day with this?

"and when you place the condom on, make sure the penis is fully erect. Hard and big, you can use your mouth and suck on his penis to get him hard so the condom can be placed correctly!"

I mean jesus fucking christ.

35 year old teachers talking like this to 15 year old girls and boys.

REMOVE !!!!!

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

You're fucking creepy.


You get your kicks out old 60 year old Miss Willson tearing a condom open with her teeth, sucking on the banana, rubbing her twat then folding the rubber down onto the banana thats your business you sick fuck. Kids don't need to see that sick shit. They can figure it out on there own. It ain't rocket science you dumbass.

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maybe another DA can in turn arrest that DA for allowing the rate of potentially life threatening diseases to be spread amongst one of its most vulnerable populations.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

I very reasoned response. I dont think I'd disagree with one point. If you aren't already, you're probably gonna make a hell of a good parent.:toast

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Thanks for the compliment. I know sex ed is a controversial subject, and hence, an individual opt-out makes sense for any parent who is strongly opposed. Still, I don't think an unreasonable minority (or even majority) that equates education to endorsement and promotion of promiscuity should shortchange those whose parents don't want them to be shielded from the real world.

"Forcing our schools to instruct children on how to utilize contraceptives encourages our children to engage in sexual behavior, whether as a victim or an offender," he wrote. "It is akin to teaching children about alcohol use, then instructing them on how to make mixed alcoholic drinks."

No, douchebag, it's akin to teaching how to avoid situations where they wind up driving drunk, in a car with someone drunk, get alcohol poisoning, or wind up doing something stupid, painful or deadly while drunk.

Teenagers will have sex if they want to have sex. Teaching them about condoms prevents the spread of STIs and decreases unwanted pregnancies. This is just a fact. It's the old Republican strategy: If we repeat the lies enough times, maybe eventually they will be true. Or at least, maybe people will be stupid enough to think they're true.

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Originally Posted by Supergirl

"Forcing our schools to instruct children on how to utilize contraceptives encourages our children to engage in sexual behavior, whether as a victim or an offender," he wrote. "It is akin to teaching children about alcohol use, then instructing them on how to make mixed alcoholic drinks."

No, douchebag, it's akin to teaching how to avoid situations where they wind up driving drunk, in a car with someone drunk, get alcohol poisoning, or wind up doing something stupid, painful or deadly while drunk.

Teenagers will have sex if they want to have sex. Teaching them about condoms prevents the spread of STIs and decreases unwanted pregnancies. This is just a fact. It's the old Republican strategy: If we repeat the lies enough times, maybe eventually they will be true. Or at least, maybe people will be stupid enough to think they're true.

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This!+1 Also, they should make laws where they make them get jobs so they can take care of their children. No more mommy and daddy to bail them out with abortion, money,etc! You wanna be a man? Act like one and face the consequences like the rest of the world. I bet you anything this will scare off a lot of kids and make them think twice before engaging in sex!


Any fool can make a baby, but it takes a real man to raise a child.
Morpheus, boys in da hood, 1991.

all this talk about condoms is making me horny, and a drug addict, and a cusser, and a criminal, and a minority---the conservative perspective on the teenage mind