Post 9/11 GI Bill

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

That came out sideways. I have no problem with whatever incentives the armed services give to people to join. SnC bitching about the loss of civil rights got me bent out of shape for some reason, and I'm sure the head full of hops didn't help. Sorry all.

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I figured you'd wish to clarify. :) Thanks WH23.

Sometimes I'm a jackass too. It's a danger coincident to frequent posting.

...under the influence, at times. :lol

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Obviously, I am as well. It's somewhat mandatory though, being a comm troop. :)

Ever read Joe Haldeman? Wrote the Forever War? (I believe those names/titles are correct)

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I'm a huge Haldeman fan, and I've read that book about 3 times.:toast

I'll re read a book every few years cause I'm a cheap bastard and never throw my paperbacks away.:lol


Give "Armor" by John Steakley a good read if you haven't already.

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

I'm a huge Haldeman fan, and I've read that book about 3 times.:toast

I'll re read a book every few years cause I'm a cheap bastard and never throw my paperbacks away.:lol


Give "Armor" by John Steakley a good read if you haven't already.

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I'll check that out.

And to derail the thread even further... when I last deployed, there was a Chief who taught a leadership lesson based on aspects of Starship Troopers. Pretty dang interesting. :)

Early Orson Scott Card, Heinlein, and Haldeman are my faves, I think. Then of course there's PK Dick, REH, and Wells...

1984 is the book I re-read every few years. :D

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Originally Posted by Duff McCartney

If you don't support this bill, you're supporting the terrorists. Why do you hate the troops? If you support this bill, you're a socialist.

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LOL, I still don't know the details of the bill. I'm sure there are some good things and some bad things. Such a package will be full of compromises. I will say this:

1) I believe any service member should be afforded an education for serving in jobs that are not civilian equivalents. Those at the greatist risk are those who serve on the battle lines and there really isn't a civilian related job. If the serve honorable, I say give them a with while education.

2) Many of the better military jobs require an aptitude to get training that do have good civilian related jobs. The military (at least when I was there) offered fantastic schools. I can see not giving these plush jobs such incentives, or not as good of incentives to join. My military experience opened all kinds of doors to then real world job market.

3) VA hospital benifits should be endless for those who were injured in manners during their service that made life changes for them while serving.

Other things are open in my mind.

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Originally Posted by spursncowboys

I am for this gi bill, besides the fact I personally benefit from it. It is a incentive for trying to enlist soldiers to fight this countries wars. Since the average job in the army is at a loss, than their civilian counter-part, there needs to be ways to get someone to join. There should also be a reward for someone having to give up their constitutional rights for a minimum eight years.

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I'm with you there.

When I was in the best position to buy a house, I didn't, because my marriage was already on the downhill slide. I have never used any military benefits after leaving, but I might at some point use the VA loan. I wonder what the details are today?