If you thought Florida and Texas were wack...

If Magic Negro were 100% white, AZ racist nutjobs wouldn't pull this stunt.

Goddam, America really is God's Gift To The Universe. :lol

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

Not it's not. Their criteria is that to prove place of birth, you have to submit a birth certificate to their Secretary of State for review. That's not in the Constitution and the other 49 states do not require this.

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Does the constitution lay down eligibility requirements for government offices? Yes.

Is being an American-born citizen a constitutional requirement for holding presidency? Yes. This is the most important point.

Is every American-born citizen issued an American birth certificate? Yes.

Thus, in actuality, meeting constitutional eligibility requires a birth certificate - it is by far the easiest, foolproof way of assuring someone was born in America.

Do you have an easier, or better way, of establishing whether a person meets the constitutional requirements?

"constitution requires a birth certificate"

Magic Negro provided his, and there were other proofs (newspaper announce) but the birther nutjobs refused to believe anything but their own echo chamber noise.

So, just to reiterate, the state of Arizona has determined that all Mexicans (or people who look like Mexicans) need to carry around I.D. or risk being jailed, and our first Black President has to carry around his birth certificate to prove he was born here.

:lmao

"and our first Black President has to carry around his birth certificate to prove he was born here."

No

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or people who look like Mexicans) need to carry around I.D. or risk being jailed

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Your papers, please.

Are there any tests to make sure our President isn't a Cylon as well? That's what I'm most worried about...

Also, witch trials. Just in case.


Edit: Skipped ahead, didn't see the discussion on who checks presidential pre-reqs. If it isn't vetted at a fed level, I see no harm in this law. Of course, the politics are heavy-handed.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I won't just sit here and let you say the MSM conspired to undermine your credibility, when you do it so well yourself.

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Wait WH23... you're DEFENDING the MSM? :lol

It's one source of information among others. No more, no less.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

It's one source of information among others. No more, no less.

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I'd say some sources of the MSM provide quite less than others. But to each their own; however, I refuse to impart an equal quality of usefulness to everyone in the MSM. :D

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Your papers, please.

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This is a mix-up. I was born in East LA.

It would be more accurate to say I attacked Yoni than defended the MSM, but the inference is common enough: because I attacked what Yoni said I must be defending what he attacked.

But this does not necessarily follow. Yoni's comments can be flawed all on their own, as revealed by Mr. Peabody upstream.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

This is a mix-up. I was born in East LA.

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Everybody should have to carry ID, or nobody should.

I vote for nobody should, and picking on the Mexicans is chickenshit. We'll see how it all shakes out in AZ.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Are there any tests to make sure our President isn't a Cylon as well? That's what I'm most worried about...

Also, witch trials. Just in case.


Edit: Skipped ahead, didn't see the discussion on who checks presidential pre-reqs. If it isn't vetted at a fed level, I see no harm in this law. Of course, the politics are heavy-handed.

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And, to be fair, the test isn't to determine what he isn't but, rather, what he is.

Why is it an issue all of a sudden? How long has Arizona gone without checking?

Why is it such a big deal if someone's eligibility requirements are checked? Do they not do this already?

How often do we have to verify our credentials or eligibility requirements in daily life? Why is there such phony outrage to this?

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Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell

John McCain was born in Panama. It's a territory, but it's not a state in the United States. AZ politicians didn't question where he was born, why?

This ballot effort can't be backed up by any sort of argument.

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Well, if he were born prior to the Naturalization Act of 1795, he'd be fucked.

But, he is pretty old. Better check that birth certificate just to make sure.

:lmao at you and 911 Twoofer Nbadan bringing up McCain being born in Panama.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Why is it such a big deal if someone's eligibility requirements are checked? Do they not do this already?

How often do we have to verify our credentials or eligibility requirements in daily life? Why is there such phony outrage to this?

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because it's a phony issue

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Why is it such a big deal if someone's eligibility requirements are checked? Do they not do this already?

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Have the authorities demanded to see your papers to prove your legal residence in Texas yet?

Do you look forward to it? :wow

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

How often do we have to verify our credentials or eligibility requirements in daily life? Why is there such phony outrage to this?

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Your papers, please.

You can keep your phony outrage to yourself, Sir.

That is one butthurt state.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Have the authorities demanded to see your papers to prove your legal residence in Texas yet?

Do you look forward to it? :wow

Your papers, please.

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Have the authorities demanded to see your papers to prove your legal residence in Texas yet?

Do you look forward to it? :wow

Your papers, please.

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Last time I voted I seem to recall being required to provide some kind of document before they'd let me cast my ballot. Doesn't seem like it's all that big of a deal to me to ask politicians to provide one before they're allowed to be on the ballot.