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Good thing the detonator failed...
I wonder if this was a local kook liberal terrorist, or a foreign like Al-Qaeda.
Times Square cleared as suspected car bomb found
Besides what the article says, I did hear there was a failed detonator and the license plates did not belong to the SUV. I'm sure we will hear a little more soon.
Related article with more info:
Times Square evacuated by suspected car bomb
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According to ABC News, inside the Nissan Pathfinder police found: Three propane cylinders, two five gallon jerry cans of gasoline, a canister of powder, electrical components and an alarm clock.
Police at the scene said, "It's the real deal."
Bomb techs from the FBI New York office were on scene with the NYPD Bomb Squad to aid in the investigation.
Thousands of tourists and theatergoers were cleared from the area because of the scare.
It started with a report of a vehicle fire around 6:35 Saturday night.
The vehicle was parked on 45th Street west of Broadway.
Witnesses said they heard an explosion, then saw smoke coming from the car.
"It was a boom and a puff of smoke," one man said.
"I saw people running, turning tables," Paula Delarrosa said.
A New York City firefighter told ABC News that the vehicle was smoking and also said he saw "a flash" from the back of the SUV. The firefighter said a "mini-explosion" occurred between 6 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.
"The SUV was smoking. There was a flash and we put two and two together" and an evacuation was ordered, he said.
Kook liberal terrorist? In an SUV? Sounds like a gas guzzling tea partier to me. :wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
PS: No one else finds it odd that all these half-assed terrorist plots are giant failures? I mean, thank God everyone is safe and no harm has come our way, but these terrorists are real fucking idiots - how the fuck did they get to us on 9/11?
That's why I think they're liberal kooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
but don't the ones on the news we see getting caught come from those middle eastern countries with real crazy conservative religious laws? :(
According to Wild Cobra, all the successful terrorists are conservatives.
man they are taking a while for this press conference to begin
It takes brains to design and build a detonator that will work, not so many to learn MS flight simulator and overpower unprepared crews on planes that almost fly themselves. One hundred percent of planes driven into buildings will explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
I don't think it's been declared a terrorist attack yet. Last I read was that it was being considered as 'potentially being a terrorist attack', according to the head of the DHS.
There are so many security cameras at Times Square, I'd be amazed if they don't have images of the guy(s) who left the truck there.
Cops: Possible suspects in Times Square car bomb include group behind 'South Park' threat
By Alison Gendar, Rocco Parascandola and Helen Kennedy
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Sunday, May 2nd 2010, 1:46 PM
Police hunting the man who parked a crude but powerful car bomb in Times Square are looking into a possible link to a "South Park" cartoon lampooning threats against depicting Mohammed.
No link has been established, but threats against the Comedy Central animators appeared on a New York Islamist Web site last week and police are aggressively looking for connections, sources told The Daily News.
The Nissan Pathfider, its engine running and hazards flashing, was parked Saturday night on W 45th St. right next to the Viacom Building at 1515 Broadway. Viacom owns Comedy Central.
The SUV was packed with propane, gasoline and fireworks and a rudimentary fuse had already been ignited.
Sharp-eyed vendors are being credited with alerting cops when they spotted the saving they alerted day when he saw smoke curling from the car at about 6:30 p.m.
The materials were primitive, but if the van had blown, officials said the inferno would have eclipsed the blazing lights of the Crossroads of the World.
"I think the intent was to cause a significant ball of fire," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly.
"We are very, very lucky," said a police source.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the feds were taking it very seriously, treating it as "a potential terrorist attack."
"Right now, we have no information other than it is a one-off," she told ABC. "Nonetheless, we are alerting state and local law enforcement - everybody - to be on their toes."
The probe is in high gear. The "South Park" episode in question showed Mohammed speaking from inside a U-Haul trailer and wearing a bear costume.
RevolutionMuslim.com posted the warning that included a graphic photo of Theo van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker murdered in 2004 for making documentary on violence against Muslim women.
"We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show," the posting said.
Comedy Central censored a follow up episode of the famously vulgar show, bleeping out out all references to Mohammed.
Creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker were unhappy, noting that their message was "about intimidation and fear."
Meanwhile, the van's vehicle identification number was defaced, but detectives have been been able to decipher some characters, police sources said.
They also have lifted some fingerprints from the vehicle and traced its stolen Connecticut license plate to a junkyard called Kramer's Used Auto Parts in Stratford, Conn.
Surveillance videos reviewed so far caught the car heading west from 6th Avenue on 45th St., but missed the driver exiting. There are at least two dozen cameras on the block and police are looking for more videos.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...#ixzz0mnU1CkYZ
source: NYDailyNews.com
i think it was domestic.
"three propane tanks, fireworks, two filled 5-gallon gasoline containers, and two clocks with batteries, electrical wire and other components"
MSNBC reports cameras captured a 'white guy in his forties' running from the vehicle...
...Probably the work of tea-baggers upset with Jon Stewart who works for Viacom nearby. Most likely led by Tucker Carlson. Looks like he's as good a bomber as a dancer.
Meanwhile,
A top Pakistani Taliban commander took credit for yesterday's failed car bomb attack in New York City.
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Qari Hussain Mehsud, the top bomb maker for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, said he takes "fully responsibility for the recent attack in the USA." Qari Hussain made the claim on an audiotape accompanied by images that was released on a YouTube website that calls itself the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel.
The tape has yet to be verified, but US intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal believe it is legitimate. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel on YouTube was created on April 30. Officials believe it was created to announce the Times Square attack, and Qari Hussain’s statement was pre-recorded.
Blah, Blah, Blah....
The cops are wasting their time on that one or setting up a convenient fall guy. Maybe after this the government will give NYC the homeland security funds it deserves, right Mr. Bloomberg?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sausage
if this was a foreign terrorist i would just be happy that they're so shitty nowadays and can't even make their bombs right, but honestly i don't buy that. if a prius accelerates too much and runs into obama's caravan, then they would take credit for it. it's kinda sad, really.
the amateurishness of this smacks of a mcviegh wanna be minus the armed forces training.
friend of the hutatree i presume?
Considering how much experience the Taliban have blowing up cars, it seems odd that they would botch such a high profile attempt.
WC accusing liberals of murder
Limbaugh accusing environmentalists of murder on the platform
both of you, GO FUCK YOURSELVES..
i don't remember a liberal terrorist blowing up the Murr building.
i don't remember a liberal terrorist shooting george tiller in his church.
i don't remember a liberal terrorist blowing up the 16th st church.
do you want me to go on?
If you go by napolitono, ft hood wasn't a terrorist act.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
You disagree?Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Terrorist attacks have to have specific motivations behind them. If they don't, they're not terrorist attacks.
One of the suspects is a white dude in his 40's.
Why have they not released the vidoe footage of the suspect. Instead they release a picture of a clock. They need to get the photo out there.
seriously dude take the time to edit the the spelling. torrorist?
Liberal and conservative are relative terms surrounding the particular culture. You are trying comparing apples to oranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
FAIL!
They forgot the 70 pounds of Ammonium Nitrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sausage
If it was an organized Islamic terrorist group, they would have had access to a proper detonator. The fireworks didn't blow well enough to blow the gasoline and fertilizer together. Estimates are that it would have been a 800 foot blast radius with a proper detonator.
Me - FAIL? Holy shit, I can't believe you went there. :nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I'm surprised they have not caught him yet.
When they do catch the guy this thread will light up like a Griswold X-Mas!
@Stringer_Bell: I can believe it. WC seldom fails to declare puny triumph while putting down other posters at the same time: stinky butter for weak toast.
Supposedly they have some good leads (but what that really means is anybody's guess).Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
A picture of the dude is a pretty good lead.
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Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Actually, they've identified the buyer of the SUV as a Pakistani-American who recently spent a few months back home. They're also closing in on a few of his associates.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Unfortunately for Mayor Bloomberg, it wasn't before he tried to advance the narrative it was some domestic terrorist pissed off over Obamacare.
It's likely the store security video, showing the man taking of his shirt, is just that; a video of a man taking off his shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honorable Mayor Bloomberg
That would explain some things, troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Politics! I like the wait and see approach most media, bloggers and douchebags are displaying but again I am surprised they have not found the guys yet. So they have a name and they are not reporting it?Quote:
Actually, they've identified the buyer of the SUV as a Pakistani-American who recently spent a few months back home. They're also closing in on a few of his associates.
Unfortunately for Mayor Bloomberg, it wasn't before he tried to advance the narrative it was some domestic terrorist pissed off over Obamacare.
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Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Authorities Have Identified Person of Interest in Times Square Bomb Attempt
I don't know, ask ABC.Quote:
Federal authorities are closing in on the man they say is a person of interest in the Times Square car bomb attempt this weekend, who is described as a naturalized American citizen who hails from Pakistan and just returned after spending five months there.
As for Bloomberg's comments, here's a video.
Bloomberg: NYC Bomb Suspect Someone With A "Political Agenda"
A few nuts but overall people are waiting for more info.
MSNBCQuote:
Authorities arrested a suspect in the attempted weekend car bombing in Times Square, NBC News' justice correspondent Pete Williams reported early Tuesday morning.
A U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, Shahzad Faisal, was arrested Monday night on Long Island, Williams reported.
Earlier, an official told The Associated Press that the potential suspect recently traveled to Pakistan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the case was at a sensitive stage.
The officials said the man was a Connecticut resident who paid cash weeks ago for the SUV parked in Times Square on Saturday and rigged with a crude propane-and-gasoline bomb
[email protected]Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
What factual problem do you have with the article?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
the fact that it's MSNBC! LOLERZ!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
[email protected] sommersetQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
McLiar whining about reading this guy his Miranda rights.
McLiar knows how to pander to the America-hating red-state dumbfucks and teabaggers.
What kind of terrorist flies back to Dubai after failing to set off their internet-blue-print manure bomb? You'd think these people, that hate America with such passion, would go suicide bombing in the event of failure. It just shows you how desperate the terrorists are for every able body.
wonder if he had any family killed from bombing raids we have conducted in pakistan
How does that affect the content of this particular article?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignignokt
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Si
How?
Army Intelligence Planes Led To Suspect's Arrest
A domestic to domestic call by a U. S. Citizen. It'll be interesting to see if the media ever asks whether or not a FISA warrant was sought.Quote:
Call To Emirates Airlines Intercepted By Military Jets, Helped Investigators Track Faisal Shahzad Down
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In the end, it was secret Army intelligence planes that did him in. Armed with his cell phone number, they circled the skies over the New York area, intercepting a call to Emirates Airlines reservations, before scrambling to catch him at John F. Kennedy International Airport.
If he was already a suspect for a domestic federal crime, why would they need a FISA warrant?
Damn -- probable cause getting in the way of an argument to support ignorance of the Constitution . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lol and Yoni claims to have been a Barney Fife in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Since when did military intelligence investigate domestic federal crimes?Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Since they were told the cell number of a suspected domestic terrorist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
This idiot was trained at a Pakistani (aka the Disney World of Terror) terror camp to build bombs? If those guys are supposed to be worse than Afghan/Iraq insurgents...why they fuck are they so much shittier at being terrorists?
I'd imagine that with any act of domestic terrorism, particularly in a post-9/11 world in which agencies are encouraged to share their resources and information, this would be the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
That the military was involved doesn't change the fact that authorities had clear probable cause to obtain the warrants necessary to tap his phones and arrest him on sight. That is, the authorities didn't need to disregard the Constitution to get their man. What a novel thought!
Of course, in light of this attack, I'm genuinely surprised that the internment camps haven't started springing up all across the country; if only Bush/Obama had let all of those big businesses fail -- we'd have in-place facilities and infrastructure to keep these people where they belong!!
Actually, his family has no such connections to anything of the sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjv
According to the news I heard, access to quality detonator material is hard to come by here in the USA. He obviously had poor outside connections, else he could have acquired one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/05/05...ef=igoogle_cnn
Are you fucking serious? Paying for a ticket in cash hours before the flight? Meanwhile, normal passengers get random searches and crosschecked constantly for this no-fly list. The list should refresh on its own, right? I mean if babies can get kicked off flights for being on the no-fly list...why the fuck wasn't the CIA/FBI/DHS pushing for airlines to be vigilant and "refresh" their lists? Wasn't there a failed terrorist attack a few days ago with a missing driver?!?!?!!Quote:
Shazad made his reservation by phone as he drove to the airport just hours before the flight, investigators said. When he paid for his ticket in cash at the ticket counter, the airline had not refreshed its no-fly information, so his name did not raise any red flags, a senior counterterrorism official said.
How this dude was caught and all he's admitted is so convenient, someone needs to put a bow on this already.
another terrorist scheme stopped under obama
The guy was pissed because of free healthcare so he wanted to kill as many innocent people as he could.
I thought they did a good job nailing the guy as quickly as they did. Sure, there's stuff to improve. But they did identify and catch him in basically under 3 days without any actual footage of the guy near the vehicle.
I'm sure that if the attempt would have been a success or if the guy eventually managed to escape, Dick Cheney would have been all over this.
Meh. If Dick Cheney wants to weigh in, I'm sure he will. The guy's never let facts interfere with his message.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Only because the bomb failed to detonate and they had an intact vehicle with all sorts of forensic evidence. Now, imagine if the SUV were in a couple million pieces intermingled with the debris from surrounding buildings and other nearby vehicles.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The Jihadist would be in Pakistan right now and Janet Incompitano would be searching every militia camp and Tea Party gathering in the nation for that poor sap that changed his shirt a couple blocks from the blast.
No matter what the administration says, the "system" did not work. We got lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Were things different under Bush?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Getting lucky in this case is equivalent to the system working. Is "the system" designed to find terrorists within three days? I'd argue that's an unrealistic expectation in most cases.Quote:
No matter what the administration says, the "system" did not work. We got lucky.
Yoni is disappointed the terrorist attack was not successful.
If the bomb had detonated, do you believe they would have been as successful?Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
I don't. We got lucky.
The Jihadist went to Pakistan and trained for 6 months. That didn't raise any flags? And, if it did, how the fuck did he ever have the opportunity to drive a car bomb to Times Square and try to blow up the Viacom building.
We. Got. Lucky. The "system" didn't work.
You're right about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
How was anyone supposed to know that, Barney?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Did the authorities know this guy trained in Pakistan before the bomb scare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Again, do you think our system is designed to catch guys within three days?
Is it a failure of our criminal justice system if police don't catch a suspect within three days?
I don't know. He's an American citizen with a passport, I presume. They may not know he was training but they knew how long he was in Pakistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
I think our intelligence agencies -- one of them, at least -- might have been curious about that.
What's the point of your question?Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
If we hadn't got lucky, all the forensics available in this case would have been spread over a pretty large blast radius and intermingled with a whole lot of collateral damage. That would have pretty much precluded a quick capture.
It's not the system, LnGrrrR; it's the luck.
Ramzi Yousef wholeheartedly agrees with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I'm sure he does, Yousef escaped to Pakistan and wasn't arrested until 1995.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
I'm sorry, did I say Yousef escaped to Pakistan? I meant to say Iraq. I guess I was thrown by all the certainty -- on the Left -- that there was no al Qaeda in Iraq before the U.S. invasion of 2003.
Yousef was captured in Pakistan but, he first went to Iraq.
So you would like the CIA/FBI/Intelligence agencies to track the actions of EVERY person who has flown/is living in Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, and various other countries hostile to us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You said the system had failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I'm telling you, the system is not DESIGNED to catch people within three days, so it's not a failure.
Were we lucky? Of course. That doesn't mean the system failed.
This is somewhat a poor analogy, but if your car makes it to 500,000 miles, and then craps out, does that mean the car is a 'failure'? Of course not. Are you lucky it lasted that long? Yes.
I'm sure terrorists passed through many countries, Barney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
So, are you disappointed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
You know he is along with many more douchebags like him. They hate america and want to blame america for,,,,,,,,, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrovejo
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Sorry.
:lol
No, just the ones they have on their watch lists.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Faisal Shahzad on Homeland Security List Since 1999
Depends on of which "system" you speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
If you're talking about the Homeland Security System, built after September 11, 2001, and designed to detect and prevent terrorist attacks -- before they happen, it couldn't have failed more miserably.
If you're talking about a system of law enforcement techniques used to identify, locate, capture, and detain the perpetrator of a crime, I've seen criminals caught a lot faster than in three days and with a whole lot less forensic evidence than was provided by this piece of jihadi trash and using a whole lot less sophisticated tools than these investigators had at their disposal.
Did it succeed? Well, he is in custody. But, that's more because of his failure than any "system" working.
Unless you're only 500,000 miles into a journey of 600,000 miles and you bought a car that was advertised to last a million miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Did that car fail? Absollutely. Are you lucky it lasted that long? Not if you're in the middle of Death Valley on July 15th, when it happens.
We got lucky. If that bomb had detonated, Janet Incompitano would still be trying to fit this into her right-wing, militia, tea bagger narrative and the Islamic terrorist that caused it would be back with his family in Pakistan.
MSNBC's Contessa Brewer sure was:Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrovejo
MSNBC's Contessa Brewer 'Frustrated' That Times Square Bomber Is a Muslim
That wasn't the question, yoni.
Are you disappointed?
You said Yoni was disppointed. Could you explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Sure, yoni is disappointed that the bomb didn't go off. Had it done so, he could have had a bigger political football to kick around.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Do you understand?
No. He never said he was disappointed the bomb did not go off. What makes you think he is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
It is quite easy to infer.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Do you understand what an inference is?
You can't explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I just did.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
You didn't understand.
Sorry.
No need to be sorry. Yoni never said or implied he was disappointed the bomb did not to go off. When you can, let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I am sorry you have such a poor understanding of the English language and most other things in general. I wouldn't wish that kind of handicap on anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Sure he did. He does it with every post.Quote:
Yoni never said or implied he was disappointed the bomb did not to go off.
Already did.Quote:
When you can, let me know.
Be specific.
Already was.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
It is also very easy to infer that yoni is damning the Bush administration for not doing anything about this guy for eight years and taking his name off the Traveler Enforcement Compliance System list.
I deal in reality. From the point where the vehicle was discovered to the point where they identified and arrested the guy in basically under 72 hours, I thought they did, overall, a good job. You might disagree with me on that, and that's ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Do you think Yoni was dispppointed the bomb didn't go off?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono