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my son & I go shooting most weekends. Local ranges, target shooting. We're gun nuts alright... :sleepQuote:
What bullshit.
A gun is primarily meant to kill.
the other three have primarily non-fatal uses.
Typical NRA gun-nut "logic" that convinces the bubbas/red-staters how smart they are.
Here is a pretty good source if you are looking for case law. Obviously the site creator uses a lot of his own language to explain the rulings but is a great start if anyone is interested.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amte...rces.htm#TOC11
you're talking to the pussified Wal-Mart generation. They get their food on store shelves, all neatly packed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
What's hunting?
We should ban all knives. They were designed to kill, too.
No, that's bullshit!Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Guns are used for sustaining life when its in danger from bears and large ravenous birds. A secondary use is to fuck people up that disagree with you or look at you funny. Grow a pair, buy a gun!
PS: People fish with guns and in some cases you can conduct heat with them if you're trapped in a frozen tundra and can heat the barrel by firing shots into the sky. Or if it's really desperate, into your own skull.
You see, these hippy children don't stop and think about what they are saying.
If they lived 100 years ago, they would know the importance of firearms. Hunting, protecting your property, and self-defense.
but because they don't "use" guns in their daily lives, they never stop to think about it. They use knives, so that's ok. It doesn't matter that many many people get stabbed to death or robbed at knife point. Knives are important, we cut things with them!
Cars, criminals use them to transport drugs, commit crimes, traffic human sex slaves, but but...we need them to go to the mall or the new Justin Bieber concert ~!!!!!
but guns? oh yeah, I have no need to hunt for food or protect my family, so yeah, fuck guns, people get hurt by them!!!!!! wooo!!!
Fuck.
Oh, and how about you lost hippies go look up crime rates in some of the most well-armed places in the USA?
Yeah, they have the lowest crime rates in the nation. Fact.
When a thief is scared of getting shot in the face, he thinks twice before breaking into your home or trying to mug you.
I'm done, not gonna waste my time trying to teach these misguided idealists.
the whole point is that bad guys don't give a flying fuck about any gun laws or restrictions, gun restrictions only restrict honest, lawful people.
the anti-gun pacifist in this thread can't get that through their heads apparently. "Let's ban guns... we will have Utopia!"
and vice-versa, check where the WORST violent crime is.... yep, the places that have the MOST gun restrictions... such as washington DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miami
Great
More retarded people handling guns
biggest retard in this thread lives in canada
who said to ban guns?
any discussion about guns soon degenerates into a "guns are bad" vs "guns are good" shouting match
Don't get me wrong; I'm relatively happy about this decision (just not sure about the reasoning being used). I'm just pointing out that not all liberals are alike, especially when it comes to a position as important as SCOTUS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
Her'es my question: Why do people care how many guns someone owns?
I mean, if I buy a 2nd TV for my upstairs bedroom, no one's running around shouting, "Really? ANOTHER TV? How many TVs do you really NEED?" If people want to buy guns, then they should be able to.
The only big contentious issue I see with guns is where the line should be drawn in restricting their purchase. (Ie. should we allow former criminals, mentally handicapped, etc etc to purchase one). After all, if it's a "right" as much as the second amendment, then kids/mentally handicapped/former criminals should all be able to buy guns with as much impunity as the rest of the citizenship, but that doesn't seem sensible.
Meh, if more people carried personal firearms, maybe tragedies like the VT massacre could have been drastically less lethal...
MAD works.
Right to bear arms was a good call by the founding fathers. However, I don't see the big deal with requiring registration of said firearms, and background checks to own those firearms. Sure, criminals will get their guns either way. The idea is to just make it a bit harder... No different than needing a driver's license. Problem is people got to stop thinking of driver's license as a privilege, as in the modern US, we need it to just get by...
how many tv's do you need?
Citizens lose their rights once they commit serious crimes. Can't vote, can't own guns....Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
A Judge has to specifically restore their rights on an individual basis, if the Judge deems the person is worthy of having all of their rights restored.
:lmao :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Right on. Someone would have put him flat on his ass and saved lives, instead, they ran like cattle and more people got killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobdrj
wow......so one dude is able to break in and overpower 1 man and 2 adult sized women? what a weak family. They need to learn self defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
so how are you going to get your gun if you are tied up?
A citizen doesn't lose all their rights. Former criminals still have their 1st Amendment rights, their 5th Amendment rights, etc etc. Why are some allowed and some aren't?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Along with that, there's nothing in the Consitution that specifically bars felons from voting, is there? It's arguable if that's even Constitutional.
better term is sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miami
gun free zones are paradise for wackos.
My question:
Why do some Americans want to remove guns from private citizens?
Follow up question:
Do you prefer that firearms only be trusted in the hands of government officials (ie police, military, etc.)?
IMO,Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkReign
I rarely, rarely, rarely ever hear about a gun saving someone's life.
More often than not, I hear of the tragedies of handguns.
The cons for handguns grossly outweigh the pros, imo.
I do.Quote:
Follow up question:
Do you prefer that firearms only be trusted in the hands of government officials (ie police, military, etc.)?
Why wouldn't I?
Most of this comes from incidents where parents don't secure their weapons, and a kid accidentally (and occasionally on purpose) injures or kills someone or themselves...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkReign
Once this happens, people (and emotional mothers) try to limit the guns, rather than 'waste time and money' teaching dealing with the parents.
I DO NOT think the initial parties calling for gun control are looking for a power grab. I do think that SOME politicians and corrupt government officials are, but are in the minority.
Follow up rhetorical question:
Why are there laws requiring people to have driver's licences to be allowed to operate a motor vehicle on a public road, but not parenting/breeding license's to be allowed to raise children that come into public places?
They were just questions that when answered, provide perspective. Nothing more substantive or world-changing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Its just...radically opposite of myself. It is America, youre allowed to think and say whatever the hell you want.
But if youre serious with the "Why wouldnt I?" question, I'd be happy to lend my opinion on the subject.