So you aren't a libtard. You still have many liberal qualities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veterinarian
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So you aren't a libtard. You still have many liberal qualities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veterinarian
Tbh people who are gaming the system and getting unemployment without looking for work should be thrown in jail. Its laughable that whoever set up this unemployment system did it that way. I mean right now you can sit and apply for jobs on the computer, or just email your resume out to people on Craigslist in like 15 minutes a week and collect hundreds of dollars a month. That's what Republicans should be mad about (that's what I'm mad about).
That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people on unemployment who got laid off and are looking for work. People with families. Myopic people like Jack Sommerset just pretend those people don't exist.
It also inflates the money supply and weakens the value of our currency since wealth was created artificially.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
You are truly dumber than you think everyone else is.
"inflates the money supply and weakens the value of our currency"
B U L L F U C K I N G S H I T
Greenspan fucked up the economy by pumping in money by the $Ts at low interest rates. Combined with low reserve requirement, banks multiplied that money supply. Combined with dubya's $800B in estate tax cuts which went looking for high returns, we had a housing/commoditiy bubble (food, oil) that vastly enriched the super wealthy while sucking $Ts out of pension plans and housing values.
Now that it takes a few 10s of $Bs to ease the pain of long-term unemployed, not all of whom are low-end hourlies, almost none of whom are gaming the system, you bitch "money supply!!". GFY and fuck your VRWC talking points.
so that money pumped back into the economy is a bad thng. Let's end unemployment insurance now for everyone!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignignokt
no money being pumped back into the economy is a good thing..oh wait if they didn't have the money then they would b even beigger burdens on the fed.....so I guess, according to your logic, them being bigger burdens on the fed is better than unemployment insurance.... amazing!
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Originally Posted by Ignignokt
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Originally Posted by jack sommerset
I never said that. Why do you make up things? More proof you are one dumbfuck. You must really hate yourself.
The Repugs game has been very clear to me and anybody who asks seriously WTF the Repugs are up to.
In complete bad faith and pettiness, putting Americans' pain behind the scumbag Repugs' political strategy, the Repugs intend to fuck up Magic Negro to the max, are fucking over unemployed citizens, and blocking stimulus spending, while taking credit for whatever stimulus spending falls in their districts, while spreading hate and polarization at every opportunity.
No matter how much pain the country is in, the Repugs aren't ever gonna put their complete shittiness aside and try to help.
Repugs will never Stand United, but prefer to Divide Americans and Fall.
Republicans would have voted for the unemployment extensions last week if the democrats would have agreed to use the money already appropriated for the stimulus bill to pay for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
You apparently "forgot" to mention that.
The republicans aren't the only one playing politics with this issue.
"Deficits don't matter" unless Repugs can fuck up Magic Negro by turning into deficit hawks after the Repugs run $2T in deficits in bogus, botched wars of choice.
The stimulus was always too small, given the depth of the crisis, as many serious observers warned.
Why rob the stimulus to extend unemployment? You didn't address that bogus Repug point.
Study after study? Really? If you say so....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
You didn't address the point that unemployments benefits could have been extended last week if the Democrats hadn't played politics with the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Trying to twist this into an issue about Republicans hating on the unemployed is laughable. Typical Boutons, but still laughable.
ie Paul KrugmanQuote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
democrats playing politics intrying to pass the extension? what exactly did the dems do?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The issue was never about passing the extension but rather how to pay for it. Republicans wanted to use 33 Billion (not spent yet) from the stimulus bill already passed and Democrats wanted to add another 33 billion of new debt.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
If the US is going to reduce it's deficit like Obama promised at the G20 then you have to start somewhere.
"Republicans hating on the unemployed"
I didn't say the Repugs "hated" the unemployed.
The Repugs just don't give a shit about how much pain their fellow citizens suffer, compared to the overriding priority of what the Repugs can do for the Repugs, rather than what the Repugs can do to help Their Fellow Americans in times of great pain and distress. And They Lie about being concerned about deficit when they didn't give a shit about Repugs running up huge deficits 2001-2008.
THOSE REPUG deficits, the tax cuts and wars, are much worse and much longer term than anything deficit the Dems have added trying to get the economy moving again.
so the GOP was playing politics. why did the GOP pick unemployment insurance issue to take the stand? Seems to me the wrong issue to to make a point considering this affects people today.. there are many other spending issues to take this stand but without this extension many people will suffer... that's ok because the GOP wants score political points and I understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
You fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
They are ALL playing politics. Democrats AND Republicans. They are fucking politicians.
You stupid fuckers that are trying to twist this into "Republicans want people to suffer" need to take that weak ass game somewhere else.
He just said they wanted to score political points.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Which is what you said.
People may indeed suffer as a result, but that's true of both sides as well.
Unclench.
WTF have Repugs done for America in the last 10 years? not a fucking thing.
lighten up francis.. the GOP picked this issue to make a political point.. and you claimed it was the dems. Unlike jacksommerset I wasn't born after 01/20/2009 so I understand both parties play politics and try and score points at the cost of the other guys...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
President Obama just agreed at the G20 to reduce our projected 1.3 trillion deficit in 2010 to half that amount by 2013. Thats a reduction of 650 Billion a year by 2013.
Sounds pretty Deficit Hawkish to me. Does his Democratic Congress not support him?
Are you guys really so stupid as to think there won't be pain EVERYWHERE to do this?
You tell me. Does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
No, we are not stupid.Quote:
Are you guys really so stupid as to think there won't be pain EVERYWHERE to do this?
why now with unemployment insurance? Why not wait until the next budget is being debated and attack the dems then?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'll answer the question for you.. the 2010 fall elections. The GOP has to look like they are standing up to Obama and the dems spending..