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What part of "I didn't agree with the stimulus to start with" didn't you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
So Texas took the money and reduced their deficit. Big deal. They could have pissed it off on new programs and didn't. Bravo.
I'm confident Texas will be able to work through it's budget problems without being bailed out by the Feds.
I cant' say the same for California and Illinois. It's time for some tough love.
So you were for federal bailouts of states before you were against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
OK.
Judging by the urban neighborhood my office is in I would say 2-3 on average.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Find a link to refute me.
The best time to go on a diet is when you're starving.
You have serious reading comprehension issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I'd like to see welfare and unemployment revised so that the number of children does not factor into the amount received. If that means childless recipients can coast a little more on their check, fine.
Actually, the ones around my office are all real fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
It's a metaphor for our country.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
But on that point, junk food is usually cheaper than healthier food.
See, the GOP had no problem exploding federal spending deficits while unemployment was at historic lows...and it wasn't just the Bush administration, the GOP Congress signed off on the deficit spending too..Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
Find a link to support you first.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Since the average number of children per household with children in the US is 2, your little anecdote doesn't even support your thesis well.
http://www.census.gov/population/soc...ST-F1-2000.pdf
You have some serious self-contradiction issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Almost half our kids already live below the poverty level and you want to make that worse, seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
I have a suspicious feeling black people are behind this whole unemployment thing.
...and that zebra Barack Obama isn't the only one.
Who said make it worse? To do what I proposed (to get it passed, anyway) would probably require an increase in benefits overall, but those without children would just see more of an increase than those with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
....people aren't getting rich by having babies and living off the dole...you want to punish kids because of their parents choices....any increases in benfits typically fail to meet the rise in inflation...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
fast food wise yes. it's much cheaper at wally world.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
How is it punishing the kids?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
Nobody is getting rich, but regardless of how many are taking advantage, whether it's .01% or 10% or 50%, there is a built-in incentive that should be eliminated.
And it's not like individual cases couldn't be addressed.
what's the poverty line? 75 k/yr?. I know two years ago in the military I was able to recieve food stamps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
that's the military idea of poverty, of course with their trillion dollar a year budget..the civilian poverty line was less than $20,000/yr last I checked....try raising kids on that!Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Whats so hard to understand about not having kids if you can't afford them? I see working couples postpone having kids all the time till they feel solvent enough to proceed. The problem is the teenage single mothers I see all around the neighborhood dragging 2-3 brats behind them with another one in the oven...each kid gives them another $6,000 a year in tax free income and it's totally rational for them to keep spitting them out.
The poverty "guideline" Iis a bit over $22k for a family of four.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/09poverty.shtml
"built-in incentive that should be eliminated"
you guys are real tough on the unemployed, but let slide all the "incentives" the corps have to buy Congressman.
I'd guess corporate subsidies, tax breaks, loopholes add up to 100s of $Bs more than welfare cheats.
I HATE that bullshit. Lets start with the Ethanol subsidies.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
...more kids - equal money means less money per kid...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
You want to break the cycle of poverty you have to give people more money not less....of course, that means a $15 dollar per hour living wage...
I would start with the law that allowed BP to write off 70% of its renting of the Deepwater Horizon.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy