If the 10 - 11 budget was $1.00 wing-nuts would argue that its too much....at least Obama doesn't try and keep costs off the books like the previous administration so its deficits don't look so bad...
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If the 10 - 11 budget was $1.00 wing-nuts would argue that its too much....at least Obama doesn't try and keep costs off the books like the previous administration so its deficits don't look so bad...
lol @ ifQuote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
ehhhhhhhhh gtown the market value has absolutely nothing with what I am asking unless you were just replying to someone elses jibberish
Seriously guys, the constitution plainly states that every government must have a budget before moving forth and here we are almost an entire month without a budget for our country......it's really really fucked up.
Our country's 2009 budget depended on a bunch of bull shit stimulus GDP projections that we are obviously not going to reach and lo and behold, when the entire PLANET shows the common man that the recovery will be very slow, the United States decides to completely suspend any declaration of a budget.
It's fucking bull shit, this stuff with the liberals in control should only prove to normal thinking people that ALL INCUMBENT LIFETIME POLITICIANS MUST GO.....they are all scum they are all fucking scum of the earth and are afraid and incapable of making the real measures to get this country back on track because they know it will cost them their jobs....they don't want that
so they keep kicking the can down the road
and now its' to the point where we are not even releasing a BUDGET
why are people so fucking blind
Europe led by Merkel wants to institute austerity measures and we are begging the G20 to keep spending to get us out the recession.
If Merkel's group wins and we cut back, we get worldwide deflation and get fucked, hardcore, page-for-page carbon copy of the 30's
If we win, all we fucking do is kick the can down teh road and make it even more obvious to smart string-pullers in the Middle East, China, India, Russia, and South America that we are a total total joke, and the dollar becomes worthless, disconnected from Gold and Oil, and each and every one of us gets fucked.
This liberal Obama crap is bull shit, they are continuing the same exact track that Bush set, the SAME
EXACT
TRACK
bigger government, more bureaucracy, more commitments, it's the same old shit
this country is f u c k e d
we all need to pick option one, and cut back our spending, but fact of the matter is politicians will never do that because they will lose their position of power once the hurt reaches the voting public.
Coming to your senses I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
I thought we'd already turned it around, Dan. Not too long ago you suggested we might profitably borrow our way out of it, by lending the money to ourselves, and collecting the bounteous interest....
Do you recall that vein? :wakeup
Let me recap this one for ya: This is one of those threads where the Democrats blame the Conservatives and the Conservatives blame the Democrats.
Optimistic. It could be even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
It does seem to work that way. The palliatives themselves can lead to a terminal condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Game and set.(Dunno if the match is over yet.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
The hurt will reach the voting public. it already has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Could be worse in terms of economic measures but I don't think it will be worse in terms of the impact on peoples lives. I don't expect large numbers of people starving in the streets. In any event I think it is a medicine that we not only deserve but need. It amazes me that 50-60 years of the most prosperous times in history have produced almost an entire population of people with nothing to show for it except debt, xboxes, iphones, garages full of crap they never needed and fat ass kids with diabetes and heart disease who think a home cooked meal means having a pizza delivered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
We are in agreement. We are doomed unless we return to more manufacturing.Quote:
Originally Posted by angrydude
Why are you using 2008 projections instead of today's facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
That's pretty funny. By his own chart unemployment tops out at 9% without the stimulus yet he claims the stimulus was a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
It's obvious he doesn't understand what he's repeating from others.
manufacturing is a false dream.
We're in post-industrial information age, service economy, have been for decades. There's no turning back.
Unreliable, expensive humans, even when beat down and screwed by the employers' war on employees, have been designed out of manufacturing, and every industry, wherever possible, using organizational techniques, ERP, logistics, robotics.
At the same time, products are cheaper to produce overseas, so manufacturing companies have become importers/distributors/resellers. Even when the manufacturing is done by a foreign subsidiary, transfer pricing parks the profits overseas, screwing the US out of tax revenues. (The Repugs complied this transfer pricing fraud by letting US corps repatriate $300B at 5% tax rate, instead of 35%. I'm sure corps abusing transfer pricing are expecting the next Repug administration to repeat the tax cheating)
There is also a huge over-capacity in the world's manufacturing, more shit cranked out than depressed or even normal economies can swallow.
A consumption-based economy is doomed to fuck up the planet, is unsustainable as resources are exhausted and land/air/water are polluted and rendered non-productive and pathogenic.
The financial sector has already realized this and moved their capital out of bricks and mortar and into the Wall St casino, where returns are much larger than manufacturing, and much quicker (and of course totally fraudulent).
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
lol, quit worrying citizen!
The health of this nation comes far second to the political survival of our leaders. Leaders of a country, especially the ones at top should first be concerned with politics, secondly the health of the country in which they lead - if at all.
They really should teach kids this is how the world works so it's not such a mindfcuk later in our lives.