Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
After watching the entire unedited video, I think Sherrod should get her job back and she also deserves a public apology. Also, Fox should come clean and make a public admission that the video is misleading.
As far as Rachel Maddow goes, she shouldn't too smug, since her own network produced this video hack job (the guy carrying the gun is black).
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
After watching the entire unedited video, I think Sherrod should get her job back and she also deserves a public apology. Also, Fox should come clean and make a public admission that the video is misleading.
As far as Rachel Maddow goes, she shouldn't too smug, since her own network produced this video hack job (the guy carrying the gun is black).
foxnews broke the story that it was done out of context.
07-21-2010
DarrinS
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
Evidently, other conservatives share my opinion
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Originally Posted by Jonah Goldberg
I think she should get her job back. I think she's owed apologies from pretty much everyone, including my good friend Andrew Breitbart. I generally think Andrew is on the side of the angels and a great champion of the cause. He says he received the video in its edited form and I believe him. But the relevant question is, Would he have done the same thing over again if he had seen the full video from the outset? I'd like to think he wouldn't have. Because to knowingly turn this woman into a racist in order to fight fire with fire with the NAACP is unacceptable. When it seemed that Sherrod was a racist who abused her power, exposing her and the NAACP's hypocrisy was perfectly fair game. But now that we have the benefit of knowing the facts, the equation is completely different.
In one of the recent Journolist belches we saw how creatures like Spencer Ackerman see nothing wrong with randomly charging innocent conservatives with racism in order to send a message. This is a deplorable tactic conservatives regularly and rightly deplore when used by liberals (we usually have less proof than we have in Ackerman's confession). I see no reason to emulate this tactic and I very much doubt that was Andrew's intent. Some emailers on the other hand seem to come close to making the case for this kind of thing. As I've argued countless times before, this sort of politics is almost always counter-productive and quite often grotesque. Embracing the tactics you condemn in others requires, at minimum, that you stop condemning it in others. It also has the potential to sell your soul on layaway.
Meanwhile, as a matter of politics, I think this episode demonstrates that this White House is a much more tightly wound outfit than it lets on in public. The rapid-response firing suggests a level of fear over Glenn Beck and Fox that speaks volumes
07-21-2010
CosmicCowboy
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by beachwood
"Breitbart had said that he had posted the full version he was given, and did not immediately respond to a request for comment after Sherrod's full speech surfaced.
The speech Breitbart played was not in it's entirety; meaning it was edited. If I post online a scene from a movie and not the entire movie, that is edited footage. You're taking a larger whole and showing a specific section. You have to physically edit footage to do that.
And again, I never said Breitbart manipulated, edited or altered the footage in any way. but he did play footage that was edited in a way to manipulate its content.
Dude, by definition edited means altered as in cut, pasted, changed. I will give you that he posted a SECTION of UNEDITED tape that was taken out of context from the total speech but the clip was not edited.
That is done EVERY DAY on EVERY NEWS SHOW. When you see the President speaking on the news for 30 seconds that doesn't mean the speech was 30 seconds long...it might have been an UNEDITED CLIP from a 20 minute speech.
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
I'm afraid of your ignorance
they fired her because she ws going to be on glenn beck.
when she was on beck it was beck defending her.
07-21-2010
Winehole23
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by spursncowboys
DId I miss something about the acorn story?
You gotta be kidding.
07-21-2010
beachwood
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Dude, by definition edited means altered as in cut, pasted, changed. I will give you that he posted a SECTION of UNEDITED tape that was taken out of context from the total speech but the clip was not edited.
That is done EVERY DAY on EVERY NEWS SHOW. When you see the President speaking on the news for 30 seconds that doesn't mean the speech was 30 seconds long...it might have been an UNEDITED CLIP from a 20 minute speech.
No, what you're seeing is an edited 30 second clip from a larger 20 minute speech.
07-21-2010
Winehole23
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
wh: what does that prove? that he didn't dress up like a pimp? :lol
Are you in the chump camp that since no prostitutes were harmed in the taping, acorn are not criminals.
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
Two ACORN offices called the cops, but that didn't get much play in the media, did it?
did they give a "pimp" advice on how to break the law?
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
Yes, but what about the truth? Doesn't it deserve a worthless apology too?
the media didn't even play the acorn story in the beg.
07-21-2010
Winehole23
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
BTW, are any charges still pending against ACORN wrt what was revealed in Mr. Keefe's expose'?
07-21-2010
Winehole23
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by spursncowboys
wh: what does that prove? that he didn't dress up like a pimp? :lol
That was a big part of the narrative. Turns out, selective editing only made it appear so. Your apparent ignorance of this error of reportage -- to say nothing of the very apparent manipulation of the record -- strongly suggests you haven't kept up with the story. (Then again, Keefe did take in Breitbart, Fox, the NYT and everybody else, so perhaps I can cut you a little slack for putting your foot in it too. :p:)
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Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Are you in the chump camp that since no prostitutes were harmed in the taping, acorn are not criminals.
Pitiful dumbasses, yes.
Criminals? Probably not. Is there a true bill against ACORN anywhere that bespeaks the opposite?
07-21-2010
jack sommerset
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
Thank God! The White House offered her job back. The decided she is no longer a racist and they jumped the gun on firing her.
07-21-2010
jack sommerset
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
Why did the NAACP support her firing if they had the entire tape?
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
That was a big part of the narrative. Turns out, selective editing only made it appear so. Your apparent ignorance of this error of reportage -- to say nothing of the very apparent manipulation of the record -- strongly suggests you haven't kept up with the story. (Then again, Keefe did take in Breitbart, Fox, the NYT and everybody else, so perhaps I can cut you a little slack for putting your foot in it too. :p:)
Pitiful dumbasses, yes.
Criminals? Probably not. Is there a true bill against ACORN anywhere that bespeaks the opposite?
I didn't keep up with the story. Past three months I have been working like someone in the private sector. ALOT. Plus I just got the update (thanks btw) and find that I missed barely anything. Irregardless (hopefully webster uses my new fav word) of the clothing, the acorn people helped to establish a criminal enterprise, which is a federal offense (RICO).
07-21-2010
spursncowboys
Re: The Shirley Sherrod 'smear job' by Breitbart and Fox News Channel
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
BTW, are any charges still pending against ACORN wrt what was revealed in Mr. Keefe's expose'?
