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Still no second source yet. Hopefully the info is wrong ............ but I doubt it.
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Did the Spurs just take how much room the team has under the tax, subtract the remainder of the MLE, the LLE, and a minimum contract or two, and give the rest to RJ?
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The only worst case is if the contract is frontloaded and fully guaranteed.
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Also, for the cap/lux tax experts, how much this contract hampers the possibility of re-signing Tony?
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DPG21920
If this is true, this is by far, and I mean by far worst case scenario and makes this one of the worst most pointless off seasons in a long time.
Not only is that way to much money given there was no market for RJ, but he does not want to be here and does not fit.
He has now managed to do nothing to improve the Spurs chances at winning a title short-term and severely hindered the re-building process.
Then they give Bonner a 4 year deal.
I am disgusted if this is true. Absolutely disgusted.
I don' t understand what you base this on? For all we know the reports of him and pop working together trying to get this down could be absolutely true and he could be working harder than ever to try and make it work here. He never said he didn't want to be here. We all know why he opted out and that was because of the potential lockout. For all we know there could have been a deal together this whole time and both sides have agreed to this deal long before he even opted out of his contract. There is no evidence that he doesn't want to be here other than some random new york media that you obviously buy into.
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DesignatedT
LMAO that is the best pop gif ever.
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So now Spurs will have 2 players that are overpaid for 4 years? Great off-season FO!
Well, it is what it is. I guess the only thing to do now is hope for success.
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I honestly don't get what the Spurs are thinking this off season. If this is "do the best you can with what you have", they should have bit the bullet focused on the future.
It makes no sense to be mediocre and saddle yourself with pointless contracts when the end is near.
At some point, you have to look in the mirror and be realistic; does this team as currently constructed have a real shot at a title?
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Budkin
LMAO that is the best pop gif ever.
If I remember correctly, that was right after Mason missed yet another WIDE open 3.
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DesignatedT
I don' t understand what you base this on? For all we know the reports of him and pop working together trying to get this down could be absolutely true and he could be working harder than ever to try and make it work here.
How so? Richard himself said he didn't started to work out until about a week ago.
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DesignatedT
I don' t understand what you base this on? For all we know the reports of him and pop working together trying to get this down could be absolutely true and he could be working harder than ever to try and make it work here. He never said he didn't want to be here. We all know why he opted out and that was because of the potential lockout. For all we know there could have been a deal together this whole time and both sides have agreed to this deal long before he even opted out of his contract. There is no evidence that he doesn't want to be here other than some random new york media that you obviously buy into.
RJ said himself he has only worked out a few days this summer which dispelled those Pop workout rumors.
He did say, even if indirectly, that he did not want to be here and that NY/NJ was his place. This is well known.
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DPG21920
I honestly don't get what the Spurs are thinking this off season. If this is "do the best you can with what you have", they should have bit the bullet focused on the future.
It makes no sense to be mediocre and saddle yourself with pointless contracts when the end is near.
At some point, you have to look in the mirror and be realistic; does this team as currently constructed have a real shot at a title?
yes. they have just as much of a shot than any other team in the league not named LA and Miami.
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ElNono
Also, for the cap/lux tax experts, how much this contract hampers the possibility of re-signing Tony?
There is no way to know this at this point because of the uncertainty of the future collective bargaining agreement. It probably doesn't hinder the Spurs tendering an extension offer now, but the question is: does Tony want to commit at this point?
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DPG21920
RJ said himself he has only worked out a few days this summer which dispelled those Pop workout rumors.
He did say, even if indirectly, that he did not want to be here and that NY/NJ was his place. This is well known.
No its not.
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If these are the correct contract details, it's obvious that the Spurs had this offer on the table the whole time. They probably told RJ that he can go out and try to get a better offer elsewhere ... thus the delay in re-signing.
It'd basically work out as a $25 million extension over three years for RJ.
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So they have little to no shot.
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DesignatedT
yes. they have just as much of a shot than any other team in the league not named LA and Miami.
Not true. But even if true, that means they don't have a realistic chance to win a title because they are certainly not beating LA or MIA.
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With all this money being thrown out the window will the Spurs have anything near enough for what Tony Parker will be asking for?
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ElNono
How so? Richard himself said he didn't started to work out until about a week ago.
It could have been right after the season for all we know then he took a break and he meant he just started working out again. who knows. nobody knows. to assume it didn't happen is just as retarded to assume it did.
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I knew they were going to give him more than he was worth so they could keep him happy, but 40 million?!..for Richard fucking Jefferson?!..a 30+ year old player coming off his worst season, a player that relies on athleticism and is clearly losing it?!..wow..
The Jefferson and Bonner contracts completely negate the fact that Splitter took a lot less than he could have..:lol people in that thread were talking about how great the front office is at negotiating contracts..I guess they have a soft spot for bad fits and sandwiches..
I really hope the 4th year has some kind of stipulation to it, like a team option or partly non-guaranteed or something..having Jefferson on this team for 3 or 4 more years at 10 million a year would be disgusting..
I don't see any reason that any other team would want Jefferson..he's at a crossroads in his career, he's past his prime..he doesn't help any young teams with his "experience", because he's not that old yet and he is a low IQ player that doesn't bring leadership..
He doesn't help teams that want to win now, because his style of play doesn't fit with teams that are trying to win, unless he's a 6th man, which won't happen for the Spurs..
This clearly means there was a wink-wink deal, so I'm not as upset as I could have been, but it also means that instead of having Jefferson for 1 more year and potentially using his contract as a chip at the deadline, they're going to have him for another 4 years..he doesn't fit and he's only going to get worse with age, so it puzzles me that they would allow him to stay 4 more years.
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DesignatedT
No its not.
Yes, it is.
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DPG21920
Not true. But even if true, that means they don't have a realistic chance to win a title because they are certainly not beating LA or MIA.
so everyone besides LA and Miami should just blow up the roster. they don't have a realistic chance.
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purist
There is no way to know this at this point because of the uncertainty of the future collective bargaining agreement. It probably doesn't hinder the Spurs tendering an extension offer now, but the question is: does Tony want to commit at this point?
Well, there's the possibility that the new CBA also drastically lowers the lux tax line, or even replaces it with a hard cap, which basically would mean we're SOL to re-sign tony. I mean, we don't even know if the MLE or Bird rights will survive.
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Seventyniner
Did the Spurs just take how much room the team has under the tax, subtract the remainder of the MLE, the LLE, and a minimum contract or two, and give the rest to RJ?
No, that would have left a much lower starting figure