RJ's Contract Details

Do Pop and RC think we won a championship last year?

RJ and Bonner were our two worst playoff perfomers, yet they both got long extensions. I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by timvp

If these are the correct contract details, it's obvious that the Spurs had this offer on the table the whole time. They probably told RJ that he can go out and try to get a better offer elsewhere ... thus the delay in re-signing.

It'd basically work out as a $25 million extension over three years for RJ.

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WTF would they do this? What makes them think a bad fit who does not want to be here deserves an extension? Especially with only a 1 year window?

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

It could have been right after the season for all we know then he took a break and he meant he just started working out again. who knows. nobody knows. to assume it didn't happen is just as retarded to assume it did.

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I can find a quote of RJ saying he just started working out... can you find a quote of RJ saying he was working out with Pop?

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

so everyone besides LA and Miami should just blow up the roster. they don't have a realistic chance.

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Nope. But the Spurs aren't everyone and everyone is not in the Spurs situation. There is a difference in "blowing up your roster" and not signing RJ and Bonner to long term deals.

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Originally Posted by tuncaboylu

It shouldn't be more than 4 years 32M

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This is what im thinking....

Oh wow...

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Originally Posted by timvp

If these are the correct contract details, it's obvious that the Spurs had this offer on the table the whole time. They probably told RJ that he can go out and try to get a better offer elsewhere ... thus the delay in re-signing.

It'd basically work out as a $25 million extension over three years for RJ.

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To save $7m in tax money? smh

I'm still hoping it's not fully guaranteed and there's a team option there for the last season.

Shit, there better be a team option for this season.

I cannot believe the Spurs FO is this foolish. In fact, I know they aren't. These moves have to be working toward something else.

I could care less about the money (to a certain degree), it is the years that piss me off.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I cannot believe the Spurs FO is this foolish. In fact, I know they aren't. These moves have to be working toward something else.

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They can always package RJ and Bonner into a trade for Shaq in February... I mean, you want worse, there's always worse... :lol

I'd rather have an overpaid RJ > some D-league scrub. Let's face it. It was RJ...or nothing really. The same people who are in here hating on him are going to be the ones sucking him off when he has a highlight worthy dunk..

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Originally Posted by Baseline

Do Pop and RC think we won a championship last year?

RJ and Bonner were our two worst playoff perfomers, yet they both got long extensions. I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Nope. But the Spurs aren't everyone and everyone is not in the Spurs situation. There is a difference in "blowing up your roster" and not signing RJ and Bonner to long term deals.

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I honestly don't get what the Spurs are thinking this off season. If this is "do the best you can with what you have", they should have bit the bullet focused on the future.

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what is that supposed to mean then? focusing on the future...? I don't understand. You think there are many teams who have a better shot at winning a title than the Spurs? We knocked out #2 seed Dallas with RJ and Bonner.

Dallas is better suited to win a ring though? with mahinmi i guess..

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I cannot believe the Spurs FO is this foolish. In fact, I know they aren't. These moves have to be working toward something else.

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Like what though? I don't see a move which would require re-signing Bonner and RJ to bad long term deals.

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Originally Posted by crc21209

I'd rather have an overpaid RJ > some D-league scrub. Let's face it. It was RJ...or nothing really. The same people who are in here hating on him are going to be the ones sucking him off when he has a highlight worthy dunk..

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Maybe for this upcoming season... but 4 more years????

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Originally Posted by crc21209

I'd rather have an overpaid RJ > some D-league scrub. Let's face it. It was RJ...or nothing really. The same people who are in here hating on him are going to be the ones sucking him off when he has a highlight worthy dunk..

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Why? Does having RJ increase your chances to win a title? He might, and I say *might be able to keep you from sliding backwards, but he does nothing to move you forward imo.

If that is the case, D-League scrub as you put it, who could arguably at least defend better than RJ makes more sense.

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Originally Posted by crc21209

I'd rather have an overpaid RJ > some D-league scrub. Let's face it. It was RJ...or nothing really. The same people who are in here hating on him are going to be the ones sucking him off when he has a highlight worthy dunk..

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You won't be saying this in 4 years.

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Originally Posted by Muser

Like what though? I don't see a move which would require re-signing Bonner and RJ to bad long term deals.

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:lol I know. It was just a mini melt down.

Think of it this way. RJ was going to cost the Spurs 22 mil for one year (salary and penalty). Spurs make a deal and basically give that whole amount to RJ (which was going to be spent anyway) and an additional 3 years at 6 mil per. Total cash outlay 40 mil divided over 4 years.

When Holt looks in his wallet he spends the same amount of money plus he gets a starting SF for 6 mil per year for an additional 3 years that will be trade bait at 10mil on the 4th year.

The only thing that is left is now to get RJ to effectively play his position. That means RJ playing SF the way we need him, Spur players also playing to RJs strengths and coach Pop not playing RJ out of position anymore.

Ihave not seen anything that would supersede this as a firm indication of how RJ has spent, at least, part of his summer.

Jefferson staying in S.A.?
Richard Jefferson’s decision to opt out of the final $15 million season of his contract might not be a sign he’s willing to leave the San Antonio Spurs.
Sources said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been personally working out Jefferson in San Antonio. The free-agent forward could re-sign with the team at a number that lowers the franchise’s luxury-tax hit while guaranteeing him more money on the back end of a multiyear contract.
– Adrian Wojnarowski, June 30, 10:30 ET


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz063010

Can anyone post a link that debunks this?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I honestly don't get what the Spurs are thinking this off season. If this is "do the best you can with what you have", they should have bit the bullet focused on the future.

It makes no sense to be mediocre and saddle yourself with pointless contracts when the end is near.

At some point, you have to look in the mirror and be realistic; does this team as currently constructed have a real shot at a title?

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As far as Miami:

Duncan > Bosh
Parker = Wade
Ginobili = LeBron

RJ, Splitter, Hill, Blair, Bonner > Miami scrubs

So yes I think we have a chance at a title.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

what is that supposed to mean then? focusing on the future...? I don't understand. You think there are many teams who have a better shot at winning a title than the Spurs? We knocked out #2 seed Dallas with RJ and Bonner.

Dallas is better suited to win a ring though? with mahinmi i guess..

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Dallas unloaded contracts and picked up Chandler... they're targeting CP3 next offseason, and I think they'll get him. So they're indeed building to make a move in the near future.

People are confusing this upcoming year with the other three that are on this contract.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

:lol I know. It was just a mini melt down.

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I think we're all entitled to one of those if these figures are true. :depressed