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Gary Neal signed a three year guaranteed contract with the San Antonio Spurs his agent David Bauman confirms to us.
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Gary Neal signed a three year guaranteed contract with the San Antonio Spurs his agent David Bauman confirms to us.
:lol alright. at least he can shoot lights out
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Gary Neal signed a three year guaranteed contract with the San Antonio Spurs his agent David Bauman confirms to us.
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Wow. That's kind of shocking.
Not expecting this...
Uh-oh. Merge!
3 years at the minimum?
shouldnt be too much of a bad thing.
:wow :wow :wow :wow
WTH! What about "The Cornerstone"?
actually I Like It!!! The youth movement has begun.
Lux tax here we come!
Mine's better. It's Omnipotent. :smokin
Really SA?
dunno what to say......surprise for sure
:wow...whaaat?
Wowowowow
Well, they were looking for shooters...
Lots of posters eating crow tonight... lol
:lol Dude has one stud game in Summer League and earns himself a three-year gig. Not a bad days work.
Something else to keep an eye on, I suppose. Temple certainly isn't resting as easy tonight.
Wow, all three guaranteed? I don't believe it.
temple,gee,hairston should get interesting.
So we go from he looks like Bowen to he looks like Elie?
When are they going to ink Anderson?
Temple's fine... Hairston and Gee, on the other hand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Wow. I'm guessing only the first season is guaranteed.
Pretty damn shocking since the Spurs have a lot of depth at shooting guard. Where does Neal fit with Ginobili, Hill and Anderson getting time at shooting guard? Plus, Temple, Gee and Hairston could potentially also play the two.
I liked Neal in summer league but an unathletic 6-foot-4 shooting guard has an uphill climb to make the NBA.
Congrats, Choo Choo.
So..... Is this supposed to be Sarah Palin...? That's the kinda girl that you wrap that flag around the two of you and "do-er fer your country"!!:hitit:Quote:
Originally Posted by celldweller
Actually he's been tearing it up in Europe....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
"DraftExpress Overseas Free Agent Rankings: Players 13-24
December 28, 2009
Now in his third season in Europe after an eventful NCAA career, few American guards are thriving as much as Gary Neal is in Italy right now. He leads the league in scoring at over 20 points per game, and is managing to do so in an extremely efficient manner (65% 2P, 37% 3P, 5 FTAs per game) despite shouldering an absolutely massive offensive load for retooling Benetton Treviso.
Neal operates as Benetton’s main facilitator and is looking absolutely outstanding creating shots for himself and others on the pick and roll, being arguably the most complete offensive player in that league.
While no one will confuse him with Steve Nash anytime soon, he has improved his playmaking skills substantially while keeping his turnovers to a minimum. Neal is very effective off the dribble and possesses a terrific mid-range game, needing very little space to get his shot off thanks to his quick release and excellent body control, being equally dangerous coming off screens.
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Snip snip for Hairston and Jerrells, I'm guessing.
that seems to be the next question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i though Gee and Temple still under contract coming year
He's probably taking over Mason's spot. Situational off-the-bench guy. Also insurance if Anderson doesn't pan out I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Either that, or the Spurs are getting ready to move Hill and Gino to PG full-time... :stirpot:
signing for the toros?
Good read here:
http://www.towsontigers.com/ViewArti...CLID=204968851
Intro here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Neal
Does this mean bad news for Anderson since he hasnt signed yet?
Hopefully Neal doesnt turn out like a Tolliver signing.
Hairston, Gee, Temple and Jerrells all have team options that haven't been picked up yet for the upcoming season.Quote:
Originally Posted by nbaman99
Spurs signing Neal definitely solidifies them not picking up Jerrells' option but the other 3 should be interesting. that's a lot of youth.
Man, ceperez is going to be insufferable.
what a perfect replacement for mason... can't really play point, can't really defend and god knows if he can really shoot...
Another 1 dimensional shooter...
When will the F'ing stupid FO LEARN!!!
Successful players:
Bowen : Stud Defender & Effective 3 Pt Shooter
Barry : Stud Shooter & excellent passing/ball movement
Elie: Stud Shooter & effective defender
Failed Players
Mason : Stud Shooter & nothing else (ok, big time mental breakdown)
Finley's 2nd contract : Shooter & fuck all else
Jack McClinton : Shooter & fuck all else (didn't even make it out of training camp)
Quit signing people who are shooters and nothing else. PPG & FG%are not the only measure of a players value...
he'll be in a suit anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursRulez4eVeR
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SpursRulez4eVeR
It's not THAT hard to be better than last season's Mason...
wow
For some reason I was thinking Neal was a point.
Definitely strange that they'd pick up another player at the 2.
Perhaps small ball isn't going away after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
so was demps like the brains of the FO? some seriously questionable moves. the FO is handing out contracts like a retarded cripple.
Manu ankle insurance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
I think you are right. Sorry, Blackjack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
In fact:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...72#post4525672
George Hill signed his first-round contract 9-22 and Tony signed his on 9-21.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
This ain't unusual.
This makes me think Hill will see playing time both at the two and backing up RJ at SF. When he goes to the wing, Manu will be the PG and you'll have one of Anderson or Neil playing SG. This is while Tony rests.
It just doesn't look good for Temple, Hairston or Gee, IMO.
I think Jerrels is history.
didn't even realize that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Yikes, Spurs give a guy a guarantied contract after just a couple of summer league games? Either the Fo has completely lost their minds or they are Guinness's.
I think Temple's ability to guard three positions and run the point gets him on this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
His regular season performance trumps summer league.
They had to hand a guaranteed deal if they wanted to keep Neil though. He simply could have made more money in Europe than staying in the Toros.
Yeah, I was thinking Neal was a point as well but stand corrected. As long as he stays healthy, I think Temple will get a shot as a backup PG.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
another NBA team would have snagged Neal for sure. The Spurs obviously like his shooting and potential.
Jerrells I never even saw in the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
But I don't know what the hell to think about Hairston and Gee at this point.
All I know is I've got a bag that easily travels (as long as it's hidden from plain sight :smokin).
Speaking of which, if the Spurs needed another shooter why didn't they just go out and resign Tolliver? He's taller and a better passer.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Gary "All Aboard" Neal? Come on ride the train, and ride it. Come on it's the choo choo, come on it's the choo choo train.
Spurs are doing some odd things.
Naw I disagree. I agree Jerrells is out though. I don't think Pop would disown Hairston though without getting a better look at him. He was just saying how Hairston's play through the last years SL earned him that signing. What I think will happen is Hairston and Gee will play for that last spot in training camp, and if Hairston wins out he will get more of a chance to play and I think Gee will get stashed in the D-league for another year. If Gee outplays him then I think they will cut their loses with Hairston and see what Gee can bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
That's my feeling anyways/
I'm surprised. Didn't see this coming. Wow, I wonder if a trade is in the works. I think Neal is the replacement for last year's draft pick (what's his name?)
Temple should be fine - especially since he's Pop's "new" favorite player this year. Personally, I'm worried about Gee and Hairston.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Whatever it is, the youth movement is coming strong... Gone are the days of looking at the bench and seeing Jacque Vaughn and Damon Stoudamire... (well, at least in the case of Jacque, in an uniform)...
Jack McClinton?Quote:
Originally Posted by galvatron3000
Neal is not exactly a youngster. Dude is seasoned. I am on the fence w him. He seems to have an NBA shot. He is not very athletic, but he still gets his shot off.
yeah, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Sisk
Man, that's a lot of cheese for 5 games...but it was said that he had to have a bunch of guaranteed money on the table to leave Europe. There it is.
Sounds like a good assumption. Judging from the way the Spurs "pounced" immediately on Gee, after Washington let him go, I doubt the Spurs let him get away a second time. Especially now that after his stellar performance im Summer League. Besides that, Pop's comments at the SL, seem to indicate that they WANT Gee in the program.Quote:
Originally Posted by ulosturedge
As for Hairston, he's must be ever-improving and he's certainly earned a place because of his continued progression.
Anyways, this is probably a worthy risk by the Spurs. Neal was one of the best players in Europe and very likely could have made a lot more than the Spurs gave him. He doesn't seem to fit right now on paper but for a small contract, Neal is a good deal.
Out of Anderson and Neal, the Spurs should have one rookie shooting guard that can help next season. Neal also has two seasons of Toros eligibility, so even if he struggles at first the Spurs have options to help him grow.
Surprising signing but a quality one. We'll see if his lack of size and lack of athleticism is too much to overcome.
What the hell? I thought this guy was just a summer league stand-out but a 3 year contract?:wow Probably not guaranteed but damn:wow
The FO must know something we don't. Either that or Pop was drunk.
Spurs trying to get an Eddie House a la 2008 Celtics in 2010 just as they tried to implement some defensive schemes from the 2008 Celtics instead of sticking with what they do best is beyond me especially when they were the defending Champs at that time yet they still trying to copy something from that formula, I always shake my heaad at that. They should just get younger and fins a real Sf one of these years.
Is anyone worried about Anderson?
Little Engine That Could can have a few meanings when describing this guy now
The way it reads is as if all three years are guaranteed. I find that hard to believe though.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
You've summed it up perfectly. What a perplexing signing.
I'm not going to pretend to know a ton about Neal other than he's a good shooter, but checking his three-point shooting stats from last season on draft express, his percentages aren't great.
I suspect, like Anderson, he was burdened with a lot of ball handling/play making responsibilities as his team's got-to player and with defenses keyed to stop him, he didn't get a lot of open, spot-up looks, like he'll get with the Spurs.
Based on his limitations and the glut the Spurs have at shooting guard, he needs to be verging on being a great shooter for this to make sense. He doesn't have to be Morrow, but just being fairly good isn't good enough to justify this.
Actually, I think this increases Hairston's chances, if not makes him a lock. There's a realistic - good chance that the Spurs are done this off season, which means no backup SF/established defender will be brought in. The player on the roster with the best chance of filling that role is Hairston.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
With the glut of shooting guards on the roster, I suspect the Spurs view him as strictly a small forward. Given his build and lack of ball skills, this makes sense.
More worried for Hairston/Gee than I am Anderson.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Maybe James Anderson playing as a SF in the Spurs ?
Really didn't expect Neal to be signed.
Kind of strange him not being signed yet, but it still a tad early to start to wander to much into it I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Trying to sign another pure shooter. It's obvious the FO thinks they are in dire need of some solid 3 point shooting to spread the floor. Extra insurance in case some others don't deliver.
Isn't he, as a first rounder, guaranteed a contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
I'd be surprised if Temple doesn't make the team, but the Gist experiment is probably over.
Don't the Spurs HAVE TO sign him to a rookie deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
I thought you couldn't not sign first-round rookies. Anyone?
No, but his draft position does lock him into a pay scale should he sign a contract. The spurs do not have to sign him though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
stated by blackjack already in the thread.
George Hill signed his first-round contract 9-22 and Tony signed his on 9-21.
were only in july.
Really? This is what I could find:Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Under current NBA draft rules, all first-round picks receive guaranteed two-year contracts, with team options for three additional years. It's also possible for second-round picks or even undrafted free agents to negotiate for guaranteed contracts, although that is uncommon.
From here
I think Temple's ability to guard three positions and run the point gets him on this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
His regular season performance trumps summer league.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
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Originally Posted by Blackjack
Hairston and Temple, I don't expect to be affected by this. Even though their natural positions are both SG and the Spurs have a glut at the position, on this team one will play SF and the other PG.
Anderson can and I suspect will play some SF (even though he's a natural SG), Neal is strictly an SG and obviously Ginobili and Hill will eat up most of the SG minutes.
Gee, if he's to make the team, will have to be strictly an SF (not that he'd be in the rotation; he'll probably spend the majority of the season with the Toros).
Jerrells, I agree with Blackjack, I never saw him as a serious threat to make this team. I expect he'll be back with the Toros.
I really think James Anderson is going to be used as a SF backup.
::in Beavis voice::Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Oh, yeah . . .
My first impression: good signing, a guy with some seasoning overseas and some moxie to boot. Spurs need a knockdown 3pt shooter to come off the bench (or maybe if good enough start alongside Parker!?).
My guess is the F.O. puts Temple, Gee and Jerrels on the backburner now. I think Hairston sticks as a defensive specialist SF.
Gee has lousy handles and Temple isn't needed with Parker, Hill, and Ginobili all taking turns at PG.
Anderson will be glued to the bench in learning mode most of the season.
spurs most of saw something from neal and didnt let him get away be fun to see how he progresses this season
i hope temple stays on as well
They do have to at least tender an offer though to Anderson. If they don't, which is uncommon for first rounders, they renounce his rights I believe.
The Spurs need another true SG(Manu is really the only one if we are being honest) and they needed to do it for cheap. He's got a really sweet stroke, so I think his shot will translate. He's also played a lot of minutes over several seasons in Europe as his team's primary offensive facilitator, which can't be a bad thing.
If he can bury his threes and work hard enough on defense to at the very least not be a liability, then he should be ok in the gunner role off the bench. Let him have a couple of good games in a row and ST will anoint him as the next Ray Allen.
You're right. Just looked at the NBA Salary Cap FAQ:Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
46. If a first round draft pick is renounced, is he still bound to the salary scale for a first round pick?
No. The salary scale only applies to the team that drafts the player or the team to which the player's draft rights are traded. When Chicago renounced first round pick Travis Knight in 1996, he then signed with the Lakers for one year at the league minimum salary.
Thanks :toast
I don't think so. Temple is Pop's new "favorite player" and both he and RC seem pretty high on Gee in interviews. RC has indicated that Anderson should be a big and immediate help. Jerrels is obviously out. I am a little concerned about Hairston honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
They have to tender an offer -- which I think was by July 16th. So, he'd be a free agent already if they hadn't and renounced him.
thread of the mutherfucking year finally some good news after this rj shit i was questioning the spurs but this is a great move fuck yea now only if hariston is named starter
Im pretty sure they will keep Temple. The other guys, well....
That's a lot of youth in the organization now.
Gee,Temple,Neal,Hairston,Jerrells,Blair,Anderson,H ill. wow. how times have changed.
Parker/Hill/Temple
Manu/Anderson/Neal
RJ/Hairston/Gee
Duncan/Blair/Bonner
Splitter/McDyess
I'd actually be pretty fine with this roster. I dont want Hairston or Gee gone but we'll see.
You don't consider Anderson a true SG? I agree with the rest: Hill and Temple are combo guards and Hairston and Gee are wings, but Anderson I see as a true SG (even though he'll more than likely split time between the two positions on this team, more out of necessity than anything).Quote:
Originally Posted by benefactor
hell yea especially with blair and hariston and hill the mutherfucking future we gripped like a bitch for the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT