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Originally Posted by galvatron3000
Did Magic and Bird team up? Did Jordan and Malone join each other?
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Originally Posted by galvatron3000
Did Magic and Bird team up? Did Jordan and Malone join each other?
CP3 is not an upgrade over Parker? Are you kidding? Paul is a better passer and leader than Parker. There's a reason why Paul is a top 5 fantasy pick :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Birn
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
No doubt that's what he wants. But I don't see any way for NY to make it work for the Hornets without a miracle multi-team trade. The Knicks' plan was to sign free agents. They dumped players to clear salary room, and they just don't have a lot to trade for a player of that caliber.
The Hornets are in salary cap hell. They will look for a way to trade Paul, but they will have to get value in return. I just don't see any way for one of those three teams (LA, NY, Orlando) to give them what they need. I guess if Paul wants out of NO badly enough he could do worse than the Spurs. The Spurs organization is the gold standard. If it's a choice between two years in NO and two years here, I think he would give it serious thought.
There's another article on Hoopshype today that says Portland and Dallas are also in the running for Paul if he does get traded. Both of those teams could make something happen, but Dallas is also in the Hornets' division. If that's a deal-breaker for the Spurs, it would be one for Dallas also. That leaves Portland. If I were Paul, I wouldn't give them more weight than San Antonio.
The people who say it's unlikely are right. Frankly, no trade is likely. Lots get discussed, not many get done. But, hey... who thought we could sign Splitter so cheap? Sometimes the unlikely happens.
my point is Jordan didn't beat Majic, the Bulls beat the Lakers etc If we are going to take that misleading Logic that even Jordan is promoting now yet in his Hall of Fame Speech he claimed it was a team then Magic beat Jordan so Pippen had to guard Magic because Jordan couldn't. All this guys joining each other because of free agency is crap, Jordan recruited Barkley for the 2nd 3 peat title run but Barkley wanted to beat Jordan's Bulls yet he teamed with the Rockets. This is all crap. Had LeBron joined the Lakers this might have a point but now he has a legitimate chance to beat them because Cleveland probably couldn't and make no mistake, the Lakers are stacked. Much more talent, especially in the paint than the Bulls ever dreamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginobili2Duncan
This entire media spin sickens me because people are taking sides on this matter when it is made up for the most part. Thank Jordan for participating and adding to the fire so now it's legitimate, not
Tres' mentioned something like this to me recently, not exactly, but I can't use picks and whatnot on the trade machine.
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WTF? no way this is happening. Wake up!
The only way we could get Chris Paul is if we get involved in a three team trade. One would think that the other team would just try to get Paul because he is better than Parker but they would be wrong. Lets say the three teams are Spurs,Hornets and Blazers. This trade could work if we could get Tony to agree to a long-term contract and he would go to the Blazers. The Blazers would take Parker for a guaranteed six years over Paul for two years. We of course get Paul in the trade. The Hornets get a bunch of young prospects from the Blazers and maybe something like temple from the Spurs. After two years with the Spurs Paul could then go to the Knicks to join his super team with Amare and Melo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chieflion
Blazers-Roy,Aldridge,Parker-Three very nice pieces to build around, plus they would not have to give away all of their young talent.
Spurs-Get Chris Paul for the remainder of the Duncan era.
Hornets-Get to rebuild with a bunch of nice young pieces from both the Spurs and Blazers.
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Originally Posted by Seventyniner
It's all been arranged w/Dell Demps...he's going to do us a "Pau Gasol" solid.
Where do I sign again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
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He'll end up in NY
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Originally Posted by CaptainLate
Bird teamed up wth Parish and McHale... you might want to look those names up. I'm sorry but as I said in another thread: are you comparing Bosh and Bird? Let's stop that joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginobili2Duncan
Which two of those guys were free agents?Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
None, but I don't think Bird said at the time "oh it's going to be too easy playing alongside 2 future HoFers, can you please trade me to a team with less talent?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
The Magic+Bird+Jordan is a big joke, these guys were already teamed with great talent, unlike any of the three players who moved to Miami.
And again, Magic Bird and Jordan were pretty much the best players of their era (they monopolized the MVP award between them for 9 straight years). I don't remember Bosh or Wade having even one MVP trophy. Apples and oranges.
Basically with Wade and Bosh, Lebron is finally getting the kind of supporting cast these guys had in the 80s.
Ah, gotcha. I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, I said at some point that if the Bulls hadn't gotten Scottie Pippen that Jordan probably would have finished his career somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
My use of "team up" was confusing, I see that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I've already thought about this.
The Spurs could offer Parker, Anderson and two first round picks for Paul. Then the Hornets (despite Demps' supposed good relationship with Parker), because Parker would almost 100% leave in the off season, could turn around and trade Parker.
In this example, I'll use the Knicks. They could offer Curry's expiring contract, Chandler and Douglas.
So while the Hornets wouldn't rid themselves of Okafor's bloated contract in this scenario (that could be a prerequisite), they would walk away with Curry's expiring contract, Chandler, Douglas, Anderson and two first round picks for Paul. Not bad. Not a single great asset, but a cadre of quality ones and this is a team short on that.
I'm not in favor of trading Parker, but if they can get back one of the (at minimum) seven best players in the league, who happens to play the same position and is younger, then it's a no brainer.
We know the Spurs aren't on Paul's list, but too bad. He's signed for two more years and has very little leverage in this. The Spurs, if they're not already, would probably instantly become contenders again and if they either won a championship or made a deep run with Paul, that could help convince him to stay.
Buford and Pop could sell him on being the centerpiece of their re-build/reload, along with Hill, Splitter and Blair. Ginobili and Jefferson would still be under contract. Obviously, once Duncan retires, they'll need another big to add to that core.
If he's still not sold and isn't likely to re-sign, then trade him at the '12 trade deadline. Sure, teams won't know if he'll re-sign, so they won't get as much in return as they normally would for a player of his caliber, but they'll still be able to get quality assets in return. At worst, they could do a sign-and-trade in the off season. The only way this could end badly is if they lost him for nothing in the '12 off season and even if they did that, in the short term they'd improve their chances at winning one last in the Duncan era, which still makes it worthwhile.
Obviously, this is probably a long shot, but it's feasible.
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Originally Posted by TD 21
People keep spinning that line, and all we ever see as a justification is a vague feeling that Paul is better than Parker.
Please explain in details why the Spurs aren't contenders with Parker, but would instantly become so with Paul. I'm all ears.
Hey Duncan was about to join Hill and McGrady in Orlando, although T Mac hadn't emerged as a star yet. Of Course Jordan would have left if Pippen hadn't grown a spine after getting dumped on by the Pistons or at least he'd wanted him traded and the FO to bring in Magic and Worthy or somebody.
Actually, I think they will be with Parker, but I think there's a better chance they would be with Paul and they would increase their chances of propping open their window longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
Paul is one of the seven best players in the league. Parker, at his absolute peak, is a fringe top fifteen player. Paul is a much better play maker and a better three-point shooter.
I'm not a proponent of trading Parker in general and it's not that I'm not a fan of his, it's that this is Paul we're talking about.
This would be a stupid trade because point guard is not an issue of concern right now. Sure, we could upgrade a fraction, but that's not putting us over the top. There are other positions that could really use an upgrade that really would push us even higher, but point guard is not one of them. That's like replacing Pepsi with Coke. Sure, I prefer Coke, but it's the rum that's missing.