The official "He'll be better in his second year" thread

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Originally Posted by rascal

None of those players were boderline stars like Jefferson was and none got the pay that Jefferson is gettting.

I dont expect a big improvement in Jeffersons play unless pop lets the team run the break more.

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You do realize Jefferson is getting paid just 2-3 million dollars more than Barry and Nazr did in their second seasons right?

http://www.delmarscene.com/data/squares/1213218483.jpg:lol Billy W has his back...and yes the pun was intended.

Of course, he will be a year older this season, so I guess that's the end of plays like these.

This one is the best.

It's not like he wasn't clutch at least 1 time:

Ohmwrecker to the rescue! I knew RJ could count on you...

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Originally Posted by benefactor

Ohmwrecker to the rescue! I knew RJ could count on you...

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I should have known you would have crappy taste in music.

Isn't there a sale on Ed Hardy gear somewhere that you should be at?

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

I should have known you would have crappy taste in music.

Isn't there a sale on Ed Hardy gear somewhere that you should be at?

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

Of course, he will be a year older this season, so I guess that's the end of plays like these.

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As long as there's a straight line to the hoop and there's no shot blocker there, he won't have a problem...

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Originally Posted by ElNono

As long as there's a straight line to the hoop and there's no shot blocker there, he won't have a problem...

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You are just being contrary. He dunked right on Oden's head in the first and juked Marion and Hansbrough (admittedly, not great defenders) in the other two. I only included one breakaway dunk vid up because I thought that would be the first discrediting comment about the post. Good job weaseling around that!

I had to include the fast break dunk because it had LeBron in it and I am required by the NBA to feature the King of South Beach whenever possible.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

As long as there's a straight line to the hoop and there's no shot blocker there, he won't have a problem...

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There was only one fast break in those clips. In the others there were crossovers, defenders and Greg Oden.

Its amazing how being negative is now seen as a virtue.

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

You are just being contrary. He dunked right on Oden's head in the first and juked Marion and Hansbrough (admittedly, not great defenders) in the other two. I only included one breakaway dunk vid up because I thought that would be the first discrediting comment about the post. Good job weaseling around that!

I had to include the fast break dunk because it had LeBron in it and I am required by the NBA to feature the King of South Beach whenever possible.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

You are just being contrary. He dunked right on Oden's head in the first and juked Marion and Hansbrough (admittedly, not great defenders) in the other two. I only included one breakaway dunk vid up because I thought that would be the first discrediting comment about the post. Good job weaseling around that!

I had to include the fast break dunk because it had LeBron in it and I am required by the NBA to feature the King of South Beach whenever possible.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

There was only one fast break in those clips. In the others there were crossovers, defenders and Greg Oden.

Its amazing how being negative is now seen as a virtue.

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Meh. Nothing would make me happier than RJ turning things around. It has nothing to do with negativity. I'm just being realist. Since his knee surgery he simply hasn't been the same player he was in NJ.

To me it has nothing to do with age. It has to do with damaged goods that can't make up for it with superior basketball IQ. Duncan had the same type of surgery and lost a lot of his athleticism the same way, but he's such a smart player, he more than made up for it in other ways.

Ultimately, what I want RJ to do is defend better. I can live with the numbers he put on offense last season. What we can't afford is for him to play the same brand of defense.

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

I had to include the fast break dunk because it had LeBron in it and I am required by the NBA to feature the King of South Beach whenever possible.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Meh. Nothing would make me happier than RJ turning things around. It has nothing to do with negativity. I'm just being realist. Since his knee surgery he simply hasn't been the same player he was in NJ.

To me it has nothing to do with age. It has to do with damaged goods that can't make up for it with superior basketball IQ. Duncan had the same type of surgery and lost a lot of his athleticism the same way, but he's such a smart player, he more than made up for it in other ways.

Ultimately, what I want RJ to do is defend better. I can live with the numbers he put on offense last season. What we can't afford is for him to play the same brand of defense.

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RJ had knee surgery? I see where he had ankle surgery '07.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

RJ had knee surgery? I see where he had ankle surgery '07.

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Sorry, I meant ankle. He did have a knee injury that ended up in that ankle surgery, that's why I got them mixed up. My comment stands though.

He lost a lot of lateral quickness after that.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Sorry, I meant ankle. He did have a knee injury that ended up in that ankle surgery, that's why I got them mixed up. My comment stands though.

He lost a lot of lateral quickness after that.

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Tim Duncan had ankle surgery?

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Tim Duncan had ankle surgery?

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Tim Duncan had knee surgery and lost quite a bit of athleticism because of it.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Tim Duncan had knee surgery and lost quite a bit of athleticism because of it.

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But it was not the same type of surgery. RJ also had his best statistical season the year after that surgery. I just am not buying it.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

But it was not the same type of surgery. RJ also had his best statistical season the year after that surgery. I just am not buying it.

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You don't have to buy anything I tell you.

Statistically, his best years overall were 04-05 (regular season) and 05-06 (playoffs), unless you want to restrict stats to PPG. Both before his injury.

He did have his best PPG in 07-08... however, the Nets were already a mediocre team and missed the playoffs that year.

RJ is not a bad player, just an awful fit for SA. Spurs need a perimiter defender and a reliable outside shooter. RJ is neither of those. He's streaky at best from the outside, and what does he offer that either Tony or Manu can't already do? I think RJ would be a decent fit for PHX or DAL b/c they are lacking in dribble penetrators from that position...