Uh is this true??
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Uh is this true??
and acquitted later.
This shouldn't have been a new thread.
If anything, history tells us those accused of rape will go on to have MVP seasons.
Gary Neal: 2010-2011 League MVP
did this take place in colorado by chance? :(
any pics?
I wonder if he changed his number.
for or of?
Kobe 2.0
Hence the nickname "choo choo". Try to keep up, folks.
Acquitted. Didn't pay off the girl to drop the charges.
He was acquitted because there wasn't enough evidence to say that it wasn't consensual. However, there's no denying he was part of running a train on a girl that was throwing up from drinking. Sick, even if not illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/...110405acc.html
According to this, Neal had sex with the girl while she was vomiting in a sink, after drinking eight shots. Not exactly an inspirational decision by the Spurs, in my opinion.
Well, it has been a long time since we had a player labeled with this. David Wingate was the last Spur that I can remember.
Strange that the Spurs FO would still sign him as they always seem to steer clear of players with even a hint of bad karma. I guess it was just bound to happen again sometime.
My own personal feelings on that matter is that the Spurs should have not singed him based off this. Fact is that it did happen, either it was consensual or not. It's not Spur like and Spurs don't need that kind of garbage around them, but what do I know. I'm just a fan with an opinion.
Just in, Richard Jefferson just purchased 6 cases of Jack DanielsQuote:
Originally Posted by Magdalena M
:lmao:lmao:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
Hilarious. You've combined a rape joke with a gay joke. Congratulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
man yall trippin kobe straight up raped a white girl all neal did was get drunk with a ho and fuck her and the ho turned around and flipped the story just like on the movie daddy's little girls where the girl accused the boy of rape because he was a basketball player
Well Ron Mercer, but he was just here for a short time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chomag
Welcome to spurstalk :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Shifty
It's 5 years old news. I bet he's not raping drunk girls now so I really don't give a shit what he did in his past, as long as he can contribute to team success.
I'm trying to forget about him :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
well I was not a fan of this signing before but now I really dislike it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
disgusting
I prefer the hill naked pics.
We talked about this last week..it turned me off on the guy..it pretty much depends on the person, everybody has different views when it comes to off-court behavior vs. straight basketball..
Everybody knows my stance on 6-24 and his behavior, it's well-known on the NBA internet, so I would feel similar about Neal..while he may not have raped this woman(possible that he did, too), he still ran on a train on a woman while she was puking into a sink, which is disgusting behavior any way you put it..
where have you been? tothrowed always tells it like it is. real talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
That's his business, and personall life. He was acquitted, so don't treat him like a criminal. Just keep your daughters clear from him and let the kid play some damn basketball..
Yes, I am sure that Tim, Tony & Manu are thrilled at the idea of playing with that guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Seriously, what's wrong with the Spurs FO. I don't care if Neal is good, he's absolutely not a Spurs type of player.
stop trippin mutherfuckers it was 5 years ago he been incident free for 5 years and playing with tim and manu will only make him more good
I don't think anybody on the team actually cares about what he did, I'm just saying that I find it disgusting from a personal standpoint..
And what is a Spurs type of player??Quote:
Originally Posted by timaios
I came up with Gary "The Train" Neal or Gary "All Aboard" Neal. Choo Choo is not the official name yet tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Gary "Locomotive" Neal - This one could be the best because it blends the Latino heritage of SA and what he did.
I will go on record as saying--unless different evidence comes out--that I can never support this guy in a spurs uniform...even if he turns out to be a great player...I will always be against him and conflicted every time he takes the court in a spurs uniform.
I know no one gives a shit about a random spurs fan opinion---but I won't be jumping on this bandwagon and will hope he somehow is off the team soon.
I'm quite sure the Spurs did their research on the guy before making him an offer. He's obviously grown and learned from his mistakes. He's lived overseas for several years which I'm sure helped his personal development as a man. I'm not going to pass judgment on him. We've all made mistakes and done things we weren't very proud of. What's he supposed to do? Stop trying to make the best of his life? To me, it's more about what he learned and how he responded to his problems. The fact he's been out of trouble for 5 years is a good sign that he's matured. I'm sure the Spurs FO are convinced.
Actually, I don't think Neal and the other player ever agreed to the girl's version of events regarding throwing up in the sink while they had sex with her. I tried to look into it because it interests me as a legal matter as well as a Spurs matter, but I never could find where it said either way definitively. It does appear from what I can infer that the accusations regarding the girl throwing up while they had sex with her were coming only from the girl's statements/testimony and the prosecutor's opening statement (which also came from the girl's statement). I don't think either player ever corroborated that part of her accusation.Quote:
However, there's no denying he was part of running a train on a girl that was throwing up from drinking. Sick, even if not illegal.
One thing that I found while researching it was that the girl also testified to sitting in the other player's (not Neal) lap just prior to the incident and telling him that she had performed oral sex on yet another Lasalle player. Also, Neal apparently testified as to oral sex being performed on him, which would indicate that she certainly wasn't throwing up the whole time, at least.
The players' version of events was that she did everything willingly, and later regretted it because of the damage to her reputation after word got out, so she falsified the rape accusation. The jury apparently believed that version of events enough to find them not guilty.
I'm conflicted just because of the accusation, but if Neal's version of events is true (and we don't have any reason to believe otherwise), and the girl made up all of the damning accusations (including even the fact that she was throwing up drunk at the time), then can you imagine how much hell he's been through because of this?
Plenty of people have run drunken trains and could have been in this situation. Does not make it right, but still.
Any chance Bill Schoening yells "choo choo" if Neal makes a three?
Does Neal blast Soul Asylum in his car?
:lmao at gary "choo choo" neal
The type of guys who don't treat women like shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
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Originally Posted by timaios
No. That's a type of a normal guy.
Was she puking from the beginning? Because if it was during, you might as well go ahead and finish up, right?
The girl said she was raped.
Neal said she did everything willingly.
Why the fuck is everyone on the girl's side??
"Was Gary in the caboose?"
- Lefty
I'm not familiar with that maneuver . . . does it require a lot of mouth breathing?Quote:
Originally Posted by adam8065
this what im saying the ho probably just said she was raped cuz she was trying to cover the fact that shes a ho up, if neal was a raper dont u think he would have done more of this, he didnt rape that hoQuote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Great. First we have an exhibitionist in Hill, we all know about Dick and now we have this. This gives new meaning to the "spurs" and the "toros"...tsk...
Instantly just became my favorite playerQuote:
Originally Posted by Magdalena M
Will they play this during timeouts?
:rollin:rollin:rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by completely deck
"Ran a train"? "Choo choo"? Wow, i must be getting really old. Didn't know these terms at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
I can honestly say that I never thought I'd learn these terms from SpursTalk.com... ;-) Thank you for the explanation, though...i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
They have to miss the playoffs first, and then demand a trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by completely deck
Since Neal is signed for 4 years which gives the Spurs 6 guards, does this mean De Colo may never come to the Spurs?
Decolo's too tall, isn't he?
maybe its the latter and now we now why she was vomitingQuote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
Are you one of these drunken people?:lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Running a train is just taking turns on a whore..usually it doesn't take place with only 2 guys though, but I guess everybody does it in a different way..the least I've ever seen is 3 guys, and the most I've ever seen is 9 IIRC..it was quite disgusting..
Let's say that we believe him and that he was having consensual sex with her before she was vomiting, continuing the act while the girl is vomiting is disgusting either way..it's not as bad as rape, but come on, she's throwing up..
The fact that he got kicked out of school is relevant IMO..there was definitely something serious going on for him to get kicked out of school, so I tend to believe that he ran a train and the passenger got train sick..
Worst case: They raped this girl..
Best case: They ran a train on her while she was vomiting..
Both cases are disgusting, even if one isn't as bad as the other..
Not me dude. I was just saying in college boyz and girlz act slutty.
Its was just a misunderstanding. He thought she wanted it but she didn't.:nope
Well I myself have done some crazy things in my younger years but I can thankfully say this is not one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I know, respecting women is so un-cool these days... :rolleyes
At least by some of the standerds that I have seen from some posters here lol
So your penis is inside of her, and you see this..
http://www.menstuff.org/books/YouTube/vomit.jpg
So he......keeps going?..
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Forcing someone to have sex if they are too drunk to give consent is rape in Pennsylvania. If both the assailant and the victim are drunk, it does not cancel out the fact that it was rape. The victim is never at fault for being raped, regardless of his/her level of intoxication. The responsibility falls squarely with the perpetrator.
http://www.pcar.org/realities-sexual-violence
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Originally Posted by ploto
this is some mutherfucking bullshit so the girl could tell him she wants to fuck and she could even start fucking him first but since she cant remember she hollers rape and ruins the mans life, fuck that females are sheisty as fuck
It's okay, you might touch a boob someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursTillTheEnd
shut up ho obstrut view u aint seen pussy since pussy had u
Yep, I just read about this myself only a few hours ago. Spurs quality player written all over. What a guy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
you whut motheafuckin position he gon play yo, dat neega need to b startin yo that ud be some champeen shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
Okay so no one here has never been with a girl who got drunk. I had no idea that Spur fans in this forum were so eunuch.
You don't need to get a lady drunk to get laid if you know what your doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
What was he...like 20 years old?
Yes it was stupid, but he was a kid. I did stupid things at 20 I should have been arrested many times over for. He has kept his nose clean since then so obviously he has grown up. Just let it go.
We should keep the nickname though. :)
Well I just learned some new terms
-This wasn't just some "drunk girl"..I've been with plenty of drunk girls, I've never fucked one while she was vomiting :lol..that's just disgusting..I've never looked at a girl while she was vomiting and thought, "Damn, she's so sexy, I love that throw up noise"..
Big difference between "drunk", and "black out, vomiting drunk"..
-I don't think this is just some stupid thing :lol..whatever though, like I said, it depends on your view point..everybody is entitled to their own opinion..
Too bad you think someone needs to rape a girl in order to get laid. She was barfing in the fucking sink, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
nigga u fucking stupid i can tell u never drank with a girl, nigga how u know they wasnt fucking before she threw up,Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
http://www.xayni.com/wp-content/uplo...th_chillin.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by cheguevara
There is vomiting and then there is vomiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
More than likely she took a couple of shots and threw it right back up. Most anyone would throw up if they took 8 shots back to back.
It was in the sink so that does mean something. She was standing over the sink. Typically if you are really really fucked up you are on the floor of the bathroom leaning on the toilet. If you are just needing to puke to keep going thats a completely different thing. Its kinda like the fat guy in Varsity Blues puking in the washer and then getting up better than before.
Anyone who has done a lot of MDMA knows what I am talking about.
The point is that her puking does not mean she was passed out and roofied ready for a dead fish.
Well he was doing it from behind, so he could have easily been holding her up from the waist the entire time while she was vomiting in the sunk, it wouldn't be that difficult..he's 6'4 210, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any trouble..Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
Alright, that's enough of this for one day, I didn't think I would be re-enacting potential rape scenes in my head today..
Whatever, either way, everybody is entitled, I'm just saying how I find it disgusting..
Hey its definitely not my thing. My whole point is that puking does not mean she was out of her mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Neal apparently has a drinking problem though. Lets just hope hes not a sociopath.
As long as he hits the 3 while he's on the court, he can bang drunk pakis for all I care.
I havent been this disapointed in a spur since I found out Tim Duncan forced himself on that girl whilst at Wake :stirpot:
i wouldn't mind knowing more, but i don't know enough to say he did something tragically wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
two guys and one girl? maybe neal went first, so it wasn't a train until the other guy got with her. i don't know, but there's a 50/50 chance. was he drunk? don't know.
if he was sloshed and she was sloshed and both said yes, which one was too drunk to be consensual, so who raped who?
not saying those things happened, but i don't know they did not. and i certainly don't know the mindset of the jury and i don't know what happened. i'll reserve judgement for when i know more.
Nothing? Tough sub.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Could you elaborate on this, please? Sounds like this was more recent (and thus more pertinent?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
By the way, i feel like the 40-Year Old Virgin after having read some of these posts...oh, wait...
Tsk...this sounds like bad karma. Either the FO didn't know the whole story or they are just plain desperate. No way you treat women that way, whoever you are.
Oh, boy...so, strike 2 so far? (And thank you, Phila, for the story)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
With all the star player collusion and team collision in the past the Spurs probably don't care about this kid's past transgressions if he can step on the NBA court and nail 3s when it matters.
I wouldn't care is Bonner gang banged bitches and snorted coke if he would just show some balls and knock down big playoffs shots.
I was a pretty bad boy, until I hit the 30's and straightened up. Maybe Neal did it sooner. I spent half my money on bad women, alcohol, and drugs... and wasted the other half. Banging drunk ho's pulling trains and being too drunk to show up for work was a typical weekend. And that is just the legal stuff (for the most part). The other stuff you don't talk about.
You can wake up one day and decide there is another side to life. Maybe Neal has done that. Give him a chance. The FO has.