Rumor: Malik Hairston to Montepaschi? (Confirmed)

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Originally Posted by elnono

is dragic that kid that bukkaked all over us in that playoff game last season?

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yes

IIRC, Dragic was playing for Tau Ceramica and the Spurs had failed to sign, the year before, the Argentine forward who shall not be named. At that time, most wanted the Spurs to pick an American player instead of going European, especially from Tau Ceramica.

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Originally Posted by Vic Petro

To be a role player on a good team, you need to have a singular skill that you can hang your hat on. Hairston didn't have one. Pretty good at most things but not great at anything. He needs minutes to improve and he wasn't going to get them on the Spurs, who can't afford to wait and see if he can be a regular contributor. At least with Gee, we know that no matter what he can get to the rim. With Neal we know he can score. With Hairston, maybe one night he'd rebound well. The next night he'd shoot well. The third night he'd D his man up well. But with reserves, the coaching staff needs to know exactly what they are going to get.

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Don't look at his defensive stats.

It's interesting that the Spurs fail to give minutes to guys on the team, and then when it's several years later and they still don't know anything about the guy, they suddenly "don't have time to find out" as justification for letting him go. I certainly wish it required something more substantial and consistent than Pop's love to earn minutes in this organization.

Well, regardless, he's someone else's problem now. Onward and upward. I hope Gee and Temple get some shots to play. Let's see what they can do.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Don't look at his defensive stats.

It's interesting that the Spurs fail to give minutes to guys on the team, and then when it's several years later and they still don't know anything about the guy, they suddenly "don't have time to find out" as justification for letting him go.

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They have plenty of time.

They probably just told Malik he was probably going to be waived out of camp and he decided to take some guaranteed money in Europe rather than take his chances trying to catch on another NBA roster.

It appears your faith in Malik's being a sure-fire NBA player is greater than that of Malik himself.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

So what? The question is "is anyone happy with the Dragic/Hairston trade". Say you aren't. I dare you.

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Are you trying to start an argument with me over a moot point? We all know how it went down, or at least we should. There is really nothing to be upset about. If you're asking, in hindsight, if I would rather have had Dragic over Hairston, then yes, I would, but it's fairly meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

The Spurs weren't going to pick Dragic for themselves anymore than they picked Barbosa or Salmons for themselves.

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

That wasn't really a "trade". The Spurs picked Dragic for the Suns. It was a pre-arranged deal. It would've been pretty shitty of the Spurs to back out. Funny, but shitty, nonetheless.

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You are being very silly today.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

They have plenty of time.

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All the time in the world, which is why they let him go.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

They probably just told Malik he was probably going to be waived out of camp and he decided to take some guaranteed money in Europe rather than take his chances trying to catch on another NBA roster.

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Probably. Or they told him that he could go to Europe now or take his chances trying to catch on another NBA roster after he's waived out of camp. I think the Spurs have let guys go early to have a chance to sign up with another NBA team in the past. Chances are a guy in that situation is going to take the guaranteed money regardless.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

It appears your faith in Malik's being a sure-fire NBA player is greater than that of Malik himself.

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Hello, strawman. Should have known you'd show up.

Good luck to Malik

Spurs must sign a veteran SF

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Don't look at his defensive stats.

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I have looked at his defensive stats, which given the sample size leave me with an impression that he's a pretty good defender. Am I ready to proclaim him an elite defender based on those stats? No, and I have great reservations that he'd ever be an elite defender. And apparently the Spurs had the same reservations.

I agree with you though in that you're right, I'm right, it doesn't matter. He is indeed someone else's problem and we're both Spurs fans. So let's go Temple and let's go Gee. Time to win #5.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

So what? The question is "is anyone happy with the Dragic/Hairston trade". Say you aren't. I dare you. The Spurs weren't going to pick Dragic for themselves anymore than they picked Barbosa or Salmons for themselves.

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I aren't.

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

Are you trying to start an argument with me over a moot point? We all know how it went down, or at least we should. There is really nothing to be upset about.

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No, I was just kidding with the "I dare you" thing. I should have put a :) in there.

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

If you're asking, in hindsight, if I would rather have had Dragic over Hairston, then yes, I would, but it's fairly meaningless.

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No that's not the question. That may have been the way someone originally intended the question, but it's not based in reality. The only thing the Spurs got out of Dragic/Hairston was the pick. You and I have agreed that the Spurs wouldn't have picked Dragic so the choice based on the "happy with the trade" question is to have Blair or to not have Blair. I was daring you to say that you'd be happier with Hairston and no blair than Hairston and Blair. Again, I was just having some fun because it's such a ridiculous question.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

All the time in the world, which is why they let him go.

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Yep. It was Malik who didn't have the time.

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Probably. Or they told him that he could go to Europe now or take his chances trying to catch on another NBA roster after he's waived out of camp.

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That's what I said.

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I think the Spurs have let guys go early to have a chance to sign up with another NBA team in the past. Chances are a guy in that situation is going to take the guaranteed money regardless.

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That's what I said.

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Hello, strawman. Should have known you'd show up.

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Not a strawman at all. What do you think his chances of getting a guaranteed deal from an NBA team were if he got waived from the Spurs' camp?

Spurs release Hairston:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs_...on_100729.html

per his request. makes more sense.

“We’ve enjoyed having Malik in our organization,” said Spurs General Manager RC Buford. “He is a hard-worker, a talented basketball player and an outstanding young man. After Malik approached us we were happy to honor his request as it will, after he clears waivers, allow him to pursue an excellent overseas basketball opportunity.”

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Spurs release Hairston:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs_...on_100729.html

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Looks like it was Hairston's doing. I stand by my statement that his contract is for more than the NBA minimum.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Spurs release Hairston:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs_...on_100729.html

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:depressed

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Originally Posted by Blackjack

:depressed

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sorry for your loss blackjack. my t&p are with you.

well gl Malik and WELCOME BACK CENTERPIECE !

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Originally Posted by timvp

Looks like it was Hairston's doing. I stand by my statement that his contract is for more than the NBA minimum.

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I'd like to know if that request was made after the Spurs told him he'd be in much the same position as last year, only he wouldn't be able to play at all with no D-League eligibility.

Probably will get paid a little more than his $854,389 but I imagine it won't be too much more and the difference wouldn't have probably meant much to him if he really saw a role for himself on the team. Playing in the NBA and in the States is worth it to most if the contract's are close.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Looks like it was Hairston's doing. I stand by my statement that his contract is for more than the NBA minimum.

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I still stand by my statement that it was either going to be Gee or Hairston. Malik just made their decision easy.

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Originally Posted by elemento

well gl Malik and WELCOME BACK CENTERPIECE !

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That's enough out of you!

Makes a lot more sense..they obviously weren't going to cut him without giving him a real chance in preseason, so I guess he took more money and minutes..

Sucks for the team though imo, but on to the next one..

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Originally Posted by elemento

well gl Malik and WELCOME BACK CENTERPIECE !

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:lol No way Bogans rejoins the Spurs. The Spurs played Mason more minutes than they played Bogans in the playoffs.