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don't forget van damnQuote:
Originally Posted by EmptyMan
He's Belgian...Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Is this thing made out of plastic?
I wonder how much stuff the US Military uses have a 'Made in China' tag on it.
if every country is disarmed then US military can also be dismissed for retrenchment. the problem is there's always some malicious country/group who's all-time ready to arouse some riots once US military loosens its nerve. Some of US allies whereas are facing far less threats than US does. Some terror attack may still happen in some allies, like the bombing in Madrid etc., but those attacks were mostly launched by the domestic terrors (like the Basque bastards in Madrid bombing). Some spare defense would be well enough to protect the allies like SK Japan etc., as it's still the US who's targeted on by the biggest terror threats like Taliban etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Terry,
Yes, the US is mostly targeted... but that could be due to the fact that we're the world's biggest power, and we're always over there. If Britain was still big, terorrists would be going after them more often than us.
without aircraft carriers it's fair to say a country has basically no marine force. maybe they have the tech to projectile a missile to hit a target hundreds of miles away, but the target has to be a static one unlike the aircraft carrier which keeps moving all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Do you think the US is the only country with a marine force?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Terry
China makes me shutter. Here we are, fighting two wars and falling in terrible debt, with a collapsing economy back home, looking the ass in front of the world. What's China doing? Developing game-changing technology, loaning us money, and biding their time. China is going to be a unified, highly developed, and powerful nation in 30 years, and we're still going to be good ol' Americans: a bunch of bickering, war-mongering, partisan, Made-In-China lovin' fucks.
ha ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
As soon as China tries anything, say goodbye to the debt we owed them. Thanks for the money, China!
If they ever hope to keep getting paid, they better not do anything :)
and even if they did, the world knows we have enough nuclear weapons to blow the entire globe to pieces. nobody would try.
sleep well, little children. china isn't coming to get you
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Originally Posted by z0sa
Print.
Truth.
You're talking right now, zosa is talking 30 years from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
The reality is that if we don't do something about the ever extending debt, our economy will crumble sooner or later. Meaning all that spending on the military simply won't be possible, because we will be effectively broke.
And all those ICBMs are nice, but sooner than later, at the pace the tech is going, and with a country that both has the tech and the economic means to do it, having missile interceptors (aka missile defense system) is not a far fetched idea at all.
So, yeah, I don't think China is coming to get us right now, maybe not in the next 10 years, but eventually, if we don't get our act together, and when we manage to lose the nuclear threat (which is going to happen), then it could get really hairy out there. Specially if we're fucking broke.
...the article says China could sink an aircraft carrier IF the weapon becomes operational in a year or two AND the U.S. doesn't come up with some countermeasures - which they always do...
For another thing, it says this is a mach 10 weapon. The U.S. has been testing a scram-jet engine for a couple of years that can supposedly go that fast, so somehow China already has one and it's almost operational. Right ...
Last, IF china has a mach 10 weapon (they don't), something going that fast isn't exactly "nimble" and can turn on a dime. But still it has to hit a carrier moving at over 30 knots.
Fear and hype people, fear and hype ...
It's a missile, not a plane. It could easily be rocket powered. It doesn't need an engine. Scramjet engines like the X51 ones actually need to be accelerated to Mach 7 in order to be used, and that's done using a detachable rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
As far as accuracy, well, when you're moving at almost 128 miles per minute, you just need to aim right.
What I'd be more interested in knowing is what's it's range.
Don't get me wrong. It could simply be a smoke screen also.
This is what I consider spooky. So much of our networking equipment is manufactured in China (the Lantronix equipment we install in military networks, for example) that one has to assume that China has thoroughly infiltrated our military networks. I suppose the same is true of other networks as well including political and commericial networks. I am sure that we have some great tricks up our sleeves but in the cyber-war aspect of of a modern war it looks like China has the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Missile defense systems are definitely not fail-proof, and there are none that I know of that can counter the amount of missiles we could theoretically launch. Not to mention we have superior air capability.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Lantronix? Eh, maybe in some places. I know the AF is mostly Cisco-based infra, with some Foundry and Sun mixed in.Quote:
Originally Posted by byrontx
And I severely doubt that China's cyberwar capabilities are greater than our militaries, or that they've infiltrated our military networks. And they definitely don't have a major presence on SIPRNet since it's isolated, which is where most of the classified info resides.
China's best way to get intel is good ol' fashiong HUMINT. And I say this as someone who is a network technician in the AF, active duty. (Of course, I'm seeing things from a low level, I don't have Pentagon level access or anything, and if I did, I wouldn't be saying something about that anyhow.)
About 900 miles, but from what little I've read, the missile guidance may not be quite up to snuff yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The "policemen of the world" thing is PR, I think. We're protecting trade partners, and this protection is monetized by discounted tariffs on our goods and/or cheap access to X country's natural resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
We don't protect any nation, just those that offer us market share, impede our competitors' strategic partnerships, or offer us natural resources.
China has zero ninjas, buttbrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptyMan
It aint were you from- it's where you at.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The guidance isn't going to be there. How are they going to track our carriers? Land based radar? HA, those are gone in the first stage of a modern war against the US if they're on. Airborne radar? Does China even have any AWAACs capability? If they do they're going to be bone fairly soon also if they come within range of a carrier's air group. You can't launch missile's off old satellite data unless you want to blow up empty patches of water.
Expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Since 2005: KJ-2000Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
One thing they are afraid of is someone who is not a representative of a country, but gets a nuke or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
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27,000 Nuclear Weapons. One Is Missing.