U.S. Is Bankrupt and We Don't Even Know

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

We can't put it off forever. If we wait too long the market (and the miracle of compounded interest) will enforce austerity on us and it won't be pretty.

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So, you're running for public office?

It's not that I don't understand that we need to do it. It's that nobody that has a chance to actually get to DC gives a shit about it.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

So, you're running for public office?

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No.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

It's not that I don't understand that we need to do it. It's that nobody that has a chance to actually get to DC gives a shit about it.

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Yeah, that's a really tough nut to crack.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

No.

Yeah, that's a really tough nut to crack.

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we have a winner.

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"nobody that has a chance to actually get to DC gives a shit about it."

Even if some gives-a-shit faux-poplulist tea bagger get elected, he will be corrupted and compromised by corps in his first term. He will anyway vote straight Repug party, so tea bagger Congresspeople will change nothing.

you dreamers need to wake up and smell the shit of govt being irretrievably controlled and corrupted by corps, capitalists, and Wall St.

I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"nobody that has a chance to actually get to DC gives a shit about it."

Even if some gives-a-shit faux-poplulist tea bagger get elected, he will be corrupted and compromised by corps in their first term. He will anyway vote straight Repug party, so tea bagger Congresspeople will change nothing.

you dreamers need to wake up and smell the shit of govt being irretrievably controlled and corrupted by corps, capitalists, and Wall St.

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THIS POST IS WIN.

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"I doubt it."

What's your plan, Stan?

@Parker2112:

Like boutons, you seem to prefer hearing an echo and disdain whatever isn't.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"I doubt it."

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My reply to P2112. Not quick enuf.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

What's your plan, Stan?

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Try to live my own life responsibly. Talk to others.

I can't change the world, or politics, but I can change my own life, and I might have a marginal effect on those around me.

What's your effing plan, b_d?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

@Parker2112:

Like boutons, you seem to prefer hearing an echo and disdain whatever isn't.

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look mane, I hate bigots. you hate bullies. and maybe neocons. but i am respectful of everyone on this board. except the closet bigots. and sometimes neocons. you are respectful of everyone except the bullies.

but where is the disdain you speak of outside of those two situations? and where is the big difference between my list and yours? so i made your list...CC and Darrin made mine... whats your point?

and btw, i didnt put that thread together because i took your advice. i thought it would be hopelessly and pointlessly feeding the frenzy.

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Originally Posted by Parker2112

look mane, I hate bigots. you hate bullies. and maybe neocons. but i am respectful of everyone on this board.

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No, you're not.

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Originally Posted by Parker2112

but where is the disdain you speak of outside of those two situations?

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Rampant and more or less indiscriminate IMO. Plus, it's a definite sign of immaturity to take the jackassedness of others as carte blanche to act like a jackass yourself.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

No, you're not.

Rampant and more or less indiscriminate IMO. Plus, it's a definite sign of immaturity to take the jackassedness of others as carte blanche to act like a jackass yourself.

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link? or WC/dog ate your homework syndrome?

My personal challenge to you: Put the dagger in winehole! Drive your assumptions home with proof sir!

1. Reduce defense spending 50%. Is there some reason we need to be the world's policeman? I think the world can make a mess of itself without us helping. We need to maintain current alliances (Europe, Pacific), but we don't need these fruitless attempts to bring democracy and Western civilization where there is little or no support.

2. Cut financial support of Israel. I don't know about you, but I've been poked in the eye enough by these idiots. I'm not sure who else is getting big bucks from us.

3. Implement a SS tax above the Social Security Wage Base. Implement means-testing.

4. Implement evidence-based medicine and transparent medical costs. For the enormous costs at the end of life, pay for cures but not for death.

5. Legalize and tax drugs. Start with marijuana. Try it for 5-10 years and think about what to do next when we find out that the world did not end.

6. Tax unhealthy food, a fat-added tax and a sugar-added tax and a salt-added tax.

7. Too bad for Bush's tax cuts. I would target any tax breaks directly toward businesses that provide US jobs at decent wages. You get up to 1 credit for each US citizen/legal immigrant you employ, from some fraction for minimum wage to the whole credit for a wage equal to median household income (about $50,000/year).

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Originally Posted by spurster

1. Reduce defense spending 50%. Is there some reason we need to be the world's policeman? I think the world can make a mess of itself without us helping. We need to maintain current alliances (Europe, Pacific), but we don't need these fruitless attempts to bring democracy and Western civilization where there is little or no support.

2. Cut financial support of Israel. I don't know about you, but I've been poked in the eye enough by these idiots. I'm not sure who else is getting big bucks from us.

3. Implement a SS tax above the Social Security Wage Base. Implement means-testing.

4. Implement evidence-based medicine and transparent medical costs. For the enormous costs at the end of life, pay for cures but not for death.

5. Legalize and tax drugs. Start with marijuana. Try it for 5-10 years and think about what to do next when we find out that the world did not end.

6. Tax unhealthy food, a fat-added tax and a sugar-added tax and a salt-added tax.

7. Too bad for Bush's tax cuts. I would target any tax breaks directly toward businesses that provide US jobs at decent wages. You get up to 1 credit for each US citizen/legal immigrant you employ, from some fraction for minimum wage to the whole credit for a wage equal to median household income (about $50,000/year).

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I like where you go...and most importantly, the two party system will never implement any of this.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Try to live my own life responsibly. Talk to others.

I can't change the world, or politics, but I can change my own life, and I might have a marginal effect on those around me.

What's your effing plan, b_d?

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My plan is to take as much money out of this world as I can.

Government contracts, automotive bailouts, anything short of welfare, SS or Medicaid, Im going to abuse the hell out of it.

Nothing, nothing is going to deter this country from bankruptcy, collapse and ultimate restructuring. You (the informal) hit while the iron is hot or you can lament your lot in life and complain about whats fair and right or how it is supposed to be.

Me? Im making money and shitting on my non-voting, American Idol worshipping neighbor every single chance I get.

Fuck em all.

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Originally Posted by Parker2112

link?

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Other posters can judge for themselves whether or not my opinion is off base. I don't expect you to own it.

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Originally Posted by Parker2112

My personal challenge to you: Put the dagger in winehole! Drive your assumptions home with proof sir!

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Your future behavior in this forum will prove or disprove my personal opinion. That is my challenge to you.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

No, you're not.

Rampant and more or less indiscriminate IMO. Plus, it's a definite sign of immaturity to take the jackassedness of others as carte blanche to act like a jackass yourself.

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when i was in the second grade, we had a kid in class that used to pick on everyone...including me. He was the class bully. he really wasnt a bad kid, he just liked getting his way.

one day we went out to the playground and he was pushing around a couple of smaller kids. i had had enough. I latched onto his throat in a headlock and road him like a bull around the playground, with him drooling and spitting out words like "I cant breef" and "yur choken me." at a whisper obviously

the teacher, Mrs. Bruner, sees me choking this kid and tells me to get off of him. she never gets up, because she knows the kid is a bully, which is fortunate for everyone involved looking back. I tell little Willy: "I will let you go if you promise to leave everyone else alone." he doesnt. i choke harder. he promises.

I let him go and he collapses to the ground. i help him up, and he plays nice for the rest of the year. we became friends, willie and me. and he was accepted by other kids after that.

My point? (1) some evils are better off choked out. (2) you could get away with alot more shit at school in 82...

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Other posters can judge for themselves whether or not my opinion is off base. I don't expect you to own it.

Your future behavior in this forum will prove or disprove my personal opinion. That is my challenge to you.

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done, and done.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, Parker. But yeah, if you did that in school today it could easily be a criminal matter.

I think if we outlawed hunting & confiscate all scope rifles, we could then sell them to China & make a ton of money…That would reduce the deficit…:tu

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

There's more than one way to skin a cat. But yeah, if you did that in school today it could easily be a criminal matter.

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true, and that would prevent willy from learning his lesson. i dont know how long Willy's new found friendly attitude lasted...he went to another home room the next year, as did I...but the acceptance by his peers alone might have done a world of good. just a guess.

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Originally Posted by Parker2112

when i was in the second grade, we had a kid in class that used to pick on everyone...including me. He was the class bully. he really wasnt a bad kid, he just liked getting his way.

one day we went out to the playground and he was pushing around a couple of smaller kids. i had had enough. I latched onto his throat in a headlock and road him like a bull around the playground, with him drooling and spitting out words like "I cant breef" and "yur choken me." at a whisper obviously

the teacher, Mrs. Bruner, sees me choking this kid and tells me to get off of him. she never gets up, because she knows the kid is a bully, which is fortunate for everyone involved looking back. I tell little Willy: "I will let you go if you promise to leave everyone else alone." he doesnt. i choke harder. he promises.

I let him go and he collapses to the ground. i help him up, and he plays nice for the rest of the year. we became friends, willie and me. and he was accepted by other kids after that.

My point? (1) some evils are better off choked out. (2) you could get away with alot more shit at school in 82...

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lolz.

I used to get my ass kicked in grade school by a freakin bully. My dog had puppies. I gave him one. Never bothered me again, and we became buddies. He also stopped picking on other kids.

Or another idea…Give congress & the senate a 30% pay cut just like the average American worker have received…Lets see here…Confiscate scope rifles? Reduce career politician’s salaries?

Which do you folks prefer?

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

lolz.

I used to get my ass kicked in grade school by a freakin bully. My dog had puppies. I gave him one. Never bothered me again, and we became buddies. He also stopped picking on other kids.

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puppies pwn chokehold?:lol

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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

lolz.

I used to get my ass kicked in grade school by a freakin bully. My dog had puppies. I gave him one. Never bothered me again, and we became buddies. He also stopped picking on other kids.

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different personalities are molded differently. My bold choke-attack was rewarded, and ultimately reinforced my tendency towards fire with fire. if i had had a puppy, i might be less immature in my approach.