Buh buh but he wasn't a real Christian. Whereas terrorists and Abdul 6-pack are interchangeable cogs in a great invisible war machine. See? Totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
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Buh buh but he wasn't a real Christian. Whereas terrorists and Abdul 6-pack are interchangeable cogs in a great invisible war machine. See? Totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
I think we both know the answer, however I wouldn't be surprised if you were still a supporter of segregation. The point is, Americans let their emotion reaction get in the way of what is/isn't constitutional, it happens all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
So that allows us to discriminate just this once? C'mon, man -- this is America. Denying people basic freedoms because they (the people) are unpopular isn't what we're about.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
BTW, I could give a fuck if they build it there or not. I just like to blow holes in y'alls weak ass "progressive" arguments.
And the terrorists who flew into the buildings weren't sick fucks? C'mon, man -- you're smarter than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
And what people don't realize is how much this crap probably fuels the terrorist movement in the Middle East. Does anyone think about how much easier it will be for Al Queda to recruit Islamic young adults when they can point to an example of America trying to stop Muslims from practicing their religion?
When is it progressive to uphold the constitution?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
They were true believers that did it in the name of their religious faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar
Apples/Oranges
Are you implying that conservatives DON'T want to uphold the constitution?Quote:
Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar
Major fail.
NO ONE is saying building the mosque is not constitutional dumb fuck.
Conversely, what democrats are saying it's the smart and sensitive thing to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
McVeigh zealously believed in racist fascism and Christian Identity doctrine, and he came from a culture/society of like-minded people -- his inspiration (The Turner Diaries) was a how-to on cell terrorism. The only difference is that most Nazis and the like in this country are (mercifully) craven pussies who rarely display the courage for their conventions (see: National Alliance), so it's more apples to apples than you know or care to know, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Wrong. McVeigh used Christianity to fuel his extremist, White Supremacist beliefs just like Al Queda uses the Islamic religion to fuel their extremist, Islamic supremacist beliefs. McVeigh wasn't just a random idiot who decided to blow up a building and kill people because he thought it was cool. The OKC bombing was McVeigh's way of "retaliating" for the 1993 Waco Siege.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
There was no facts in your nonsense. Mcveigh didn't go to a Christian church that preached hate and violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
Jesus didn't go around different tribes and make deals to violently attack others and instill their religion.
A large portion of the Christian religion in all it's denominations do not condone, or stay silent, genocide.
Going by all of Jesus's teachings, you could conclude that Mcveigh was a christian in name only. There is no evidence that he was a diciple of christ when he started his terrorism.
IMO I think if they want to build a community center near the WTC-fine. And if the Imam's preaching incite violence on others than he should be imprisoned.
This is a typical knee-jerk response from someone who listens intently to their marxist professor without doing their own homework on their nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
Al Queda has plenty of other arguments to use in recruitment.
Considering the intolerance of infidels inherent in their faith I seriously doubt that having deep conversations about religious tolerance in the US is high on their list of recruitment tools.
No. Just that we are a tolerant country. I think this has less to do with religion and more to do with american symbolism as to why most americans don't want a mosque that close to wtc.Quote:
Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Can you think of any other religions that are intolerant? :lol
White Supremacists consider themselves Christians.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
And Muhammad did?Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
And the Koran condones violence?Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
And going by the 5 pillars of Islam, you could conclude Al Queda is only an Islamic organization by name.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
And I agree, but if it's a normal Muslim center, it won't incite violence. The people who blew up the trade centers weren't mainstream Muslims, they were Muslim extremists, just like Timothy McVeigh was a Christian extremist.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
:lmao my marxist professor? Is college the devil or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
I find this funny too. If they didn't have a reason yet I doubt this will push them over the ledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
White Supremacy beliefs are inherently unchristian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
Next.
Why is it you act like all Muslims are "intolerant of infidels" as if they're all nutjob terrorists. Most Muslims are peaceful people.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Al Queda beliefs are inherently unIslamic. Nowhere in the Koran or the 5 pillars of Islam does it say to commit violent acts against the infidels.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Dumb fuck? :lol Eat a dick, tough guy -- I've been nothing but civil to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
As for constitutionality... people are trying to impede the construction of mosque for what amount to aesthetic reasons. The land is paid for, the plans are in place, and yet some misguided douchebags are trying to intercede on what amount to aesthetic grounds. That isn't constitutionally sanctioned, now, is it? So this whole hoopla (besides being primarily political opera leading up to the mid-terms) is, ultimately hypocritical xenophobia from a country that is composed of aliens, and this hypocrisy -- while constitutionally protected in itself -- has, as it's end, an unconstitutional goal.
As for your assumption that I'm pinning this idiotic behavior on conservatives... it's just an assumption, genius.
OK, GD, I get you now. Muslims good, Christians bad.
I respect your constitutional right to advocate that.
I'm not saying Timothy McVeigh was a true Christian or anything. Timothy McVeigh twisted and contorted Christian beliefs to justify blowing up a building by convincing himself god wanted him to do so. Al Queda uses Islam to brainwash young adults and convince them Allah wants them to commit terrorist acts against the "infidels". Most Muslims hate being associated with organizations like Al Queda as much as Christians hate being associated with organizations like the KKK or with people like McVeigh.
Jesus didn't, but Christians have done far more than their fair share of it, repeatedly. They just apologize later so it's ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys