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News Corp.'s second-largest shareholder, after the Murdoch family, is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal (pictured above ), the nephew of Saudi Arabian King Abdullah, and one of the world's richest men.
Saudi Arabia, which is ruled by Alwaleed's uncle King Abdullah, is, of course, an authoritarian petro-monarchy that actually is governed by Sharia law and is known as one of the top global sponsors of terrorism.
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Um, rather ironic isn't it?
You would think FOX would be for the mosque!
nah, the Repug mosque-erade is all and only about politics, and politics is all about money.
btw, Rupert Murdoch's mother was Jewish.
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
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I doubt all those Fox news patriots know that the same News Corp that's owned by a Wahhabist Saudi prince just donated a million dollars to the Republican party. Of course they'll never find out because the only network they watch is the same terrorist funded network that's doing it.
He also has investments in Time Warner, Kodak, Apple, Pepsi, Citi, Motorolla, etc. He seems to invest in Blue Chip growth co.'s. I don't understand why this is news? It would be one thing if News Corp was doing something unethical. This is racist that an investor has to be a muslim investor first. That you think because he is muslim, he has to have a religious stance with his investments. Would you be saying this about a Christian?
Can you say BigBigBig Oil Interests, ruling Big Right Media?
Muslim doesnt really matter...unless you want to make it an issue SnC...its about big oil owning the airwaves at fox...Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
and this guy is no passive investor here...this is not just part of his portfolio, so dont even bother with that lame ass argument...this guy and rupert own the airwaves, and the policies of the right-wing if you ask me...
face it. your party is bought and paid for with oil money. you might as well have Michael Steele start wearing penzoil patches, cause you guys have sold the fuck out.
and continue to sell our country out as a result.
We report, you decide.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Oh really? I don't think their high-tech lynching of Shirley Sherrod's going to win them any Pulitzer awards, do you? Still an interesting connection though, don't you think consider how loudly Fox News has been been banging the anti-muslim drum over the GZM.Quote:
It would be one thing if News Corp was doing something unethical.
Interesting that you associate Islam with race.Quote:
This is racist that an investor has to be a muslim investor first.
Saying what, exactly?Quote:
Would you be saying this about a Christian?
What did Fox do in regards to Sherrod? Interesting that you want to play simantics with me, knowing the main point I was stating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
Fox News
"we deceive, you believe"
wtf are simantics anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Remember this gem?
I actually mentioned Alaweed in that thread. I don't think it's a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by word
So which do the Saudis own...Fox News, Repug Party, or both?Quote:
the same News Corp that's owned by a Wahhabist Saudi prince just donated a million dollars to the Republican party...
And is there any chance in hell that these strategic market "investments" end there?
Interesting that the progressives in here think that it is improper for muslims to invest in the stock market.
not at all. its just creates a hell of reason to distrust the message on Fox is all...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
conflict of interest doesnt stem from religion (only someone who sees the issues in terms of race/creed/religion would say something like this...like a fox news watcher)...
conflict of interest here flows from:
1. Big Oil owning a major news outlet and pushing imperialistic policies, neocon propoganda, and ultra-conservative domestic policies down the sheeple's collective consciousness, (all to support the continual extraction and marketing of their "black-gold" business interests and even in the face of dead bodies around the world and bankrupt nations, including our own),
VS.
2. the rights of the United States people to fair, balanced and unbiased media coverage.
sound like fox is doing this country a real service.
when wil you sheepish repugs wake the fuck up
Oh, I get it. It's not that he is a muslim, it is that he is from Saudi Arabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
What a subtle distinction. You progressives are really open minded.
And the fact that he chooses to invest in a successful company like Newscorp is obviously wrong...
So you find it perfectly acceptable that General Electric owns NBC and 1/2 of MSNBC, Westinghouse owns CBS, Disney owns ABC, Time Warner owns CNN, etc.
Is it OK if people from Saudi Arabia own stock in THOSE companies?
atrocious straw man argument...doesnt even warrant a response really...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
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Originally Posted by Parker2112
:lmao
fucking lightweight
saudi's have the right to buy.
they got some damn good pilots, too.
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
you still haven't dealt with this, and your calling me lightweight? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
the best you can do is pull some bigot argument out your ass?
:lol:lol
:rollin
Your progressive position is that because a guy from Saudi Arabia is the second largest stockholder in Newscorp that Fox News is automatically "owned" by big oil and it's editorial content is directly controlled by the guy from Saudi Arabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
:lmao
Yeah, I'm calling you out as a fucking idiot.
I got your papers right here CC...cuz youre owned like a rat terrier...Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
I say big oil, you argue saudi, I say big oil again.
when are you going to deal with big oil as being the source of the conflict here?
let me answer that...NEVER. best you can do is throw religion in the game. what a fucking bigot repug...you would do Rush and Glenn proud :lol
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Originally Posted by Parker2112
I already yanked your tags off and threw them in the trash. You are in the dresser drawer between the socks and the underwear.
You are saying a "big oil" stockholder (he HAS to be BIG OIL because he is from Saudi Arabia) in a public company is dictating editorial policy. Talk about some classic stereotyping...:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
I say the black helicopters are gonna get you, you fucking idiot.
your saying a saudi prince has no oil interests...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
use lies in argument much?:king
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Originally Posted by Parker2112
I'm saying that your conclusion that just because a stockholder in Newscorp is from Saudi Arabia that automatically makes him "big oil" and because he is a big stockholder in Newscorp that automatically allows him to dictate Fox News editorial content is laughable and outright crazy. You, sir, are a fucking idiot.
Parker, you've got two dots about a mile apart. Saudi/Big Oil Investment. Editorial Control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Thus far, you haven't shown a line between them.
purely circumstantial? Answer? No.Quote:
News Corp.'s second-largest shareholder, after the Murdoch family, is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal (pictured above ), the nephew of Saudi Arabian King Abdullah, and one of the world's richest men.
This guy holds oil interests.
CC youre a clod. :lol
except that on every issue that affects oil interests, FOX news falls on the right, as in right in line with Big Oil's interests...Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
that IS circumstantial, and in this case its enough for me. Its actually enough for anyone who has eyes and ears, and who is not die hard repug.
cue CC, the repug soundboard...
Just sayin':
cue black helicopters...Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
come on, man. you cant disown the company line that quick...your gonna get disowned by the fox repugs if you do...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
cue a few of these...:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+news+oil&aq=3
Watch out Parker. "THEY" are out to get you. BooooWeeeeeeUUUUUUU!Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
and for fun...
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Fox News?Quote:
"THEY" are out to use our military to make $!
Muslim Saudi Arabian Princes?
I think you have been breathing too many fumes from the deep fryer.
Big. Oil. and. those. with Big. Interests. in. Big. Oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
you keep talking about religion and nationality...
they arent of one color. they arent of one religion. they arent of one nationaility. thats a simple mind viewing things in a simple fashion.
they have a singular interest. thats the tie.
Fox falls on the right which is in line with many interests...your case for causation re: Big Oil is extremely weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
I understand the gut intstinct, but you don't know what you don't know.
I am not sure about all of them, but not all the princes are involved in the oil contracts in saudi arabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
This proves is that Fox News has potential ties to Islamic terrorism and is headquartered mere blocks from the ground zero of the Times Square bombing.
They have a Constitutional right to be there, but they should move somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
good one!
I wouldnt go that far..but I aint gonna argue with you either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
The fact that you didn't even get the joke shows just how fucking stupid you are.
so big oil is lobbying fox news, pepsi, kodak, disney, and cato institute to name a few? Maybe they know a good company that they like to invest in. What is your take on GE and the Dems?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Thats a hopeless question. he's already avoided it. Besides, he's too stupid to even know about GE, Immelt, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
To his credit, he would of had to recognize that chump said something witty for it to be funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
remind me how any of those corps aim to influence public opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
they dont, thus they dont matter to this discussion
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Originally Posted by Parker2112
Says the guy on the front row of the short bus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
I gotta quit respnding while distracted...Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
That in several election cycles, GE has given more to Republicans than Democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursncowboys
Their contributions vary as much as News Corp's probably do. I don't know if News Corp's holdings are as diverse as GE's.
another big holding of his is citi, time warner, among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
The top 3 media conglomerates in 2009 is:
1. Disney
2. Time Warner
3. News Corp.
You're kidding, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
no I wasnt kidding, I was distracted and didnt read the post before I responded.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
Seriously, what's the obsession with Fox News?
There's one conservative news outlet and the rest lean left or are further gone than Fox (MSNBC).
Do yourself a favor and watch as much Fox and MSNBC as possible (or, better yet, do your own research and news gathering), find the angle/talking points pushed by the pundit puppets, and then you'll find an understanding as to why their pushing those agendas. That will lead you much closer to the truth.
I'll never understand how some people can hold the pom poms for one party and completely dismiss or demonize the other, or people believed to be affiliated with them -- I guess their beliefs/arguments don't carry the type of weight or gravitas they profess them to.
It's a pack mentality looking for affirmation, not the truth.
abso-fuggin-loot-lee...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
Talaweed or whatever is a buddy of Buffett, who supported Barack. Oh noes.
All of you are fucking stupid.
The country is going bankrupt.
And you argue about dumb shit such as the subject of this thread as if it matters.
Kill yourself and save the planet. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Amen. :lol
I guess we as unintelligent beings can only focus on one subject at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Focusing on one teeny, tiny thing like the lifeblood of the country would be a step in the right direction.
you mean oil, right? :wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by Blackjack
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*multitask
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*prioritize
Yes, that's exactly what I was alluding to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Now if we could just conquer the Middle East for their oil and remove religion from the world and live in a melting pot of race and sexuality, we'd be straight (as in a line and not a sexual preference).
There you go proving yourself as a liberal Kool-Aid drinking Lemming, rather than a self thinking libertarian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
He's extrapolating fiction from facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooks
At least you don't know if it's true or not.
Really now. You think a 7% stake has enough influence? Get real. These guys are rich and want to invest in profitable stocks. I find it telling that he didn't say what class of stock it was!
Better be scared for your kids if you worry about his stock in Fox... 7% Fox, 10% Disney!
Again, are his stocks preferred stocks, or common stocks?
This is important. If they are not preferred stocks, this is not a story, and Turks are full of hot air again.
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BrilliantQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Have you seen the lifestyle of the Saudi royalty? They aren't waiting to die to get their virgins. One of the tenants of Islam is to not pay or receive interest. This same prince at one point was the largest shareholder of Citi. Take a look at Amana funds--- they are run by Muslims and don't invest in banks. Thus their 3 and 5 year numbers look great. Fox wouldn't exist if people didn't tune in. Liberal talk doesn't exist because people don't tune in.
Alwaleed is.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0821/fox...d-mosque-imam/
the plot thickens
If I am to assume incidental contact, then by your analogy, everyone is connected with in the "Human Web," and a conspirator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
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