prove it's a charade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
If you can't, then common decency would dictate that you stfu and let them build...........although you have every legal right not to stfu and continue to look like an Islamophobic idiot.
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prove it's a charade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
If you can't, then common decency would dictate that you stfu and let them build...........although you have every legal right not to stfu and continue to look like an Islamophobic idiot.
Right. If it's a charade, let them expose themselves through their actions.
There is no reason to perpetuate an image of American intolerance and prejudice against Islam worldwide. It undermines our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why do you hate our troops, Yoni?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
These people have every right to build their "terror mosque" wherever they wish. Thankfully, our Constitution has rights that are meant to not only protect the popular, majority opinions, but the unpopular ones as well.
Frankly, I think it would be considered more insulting to have bars, strip joints and porn shops 2 blocks from the ground zero site, than a religious center.
Backer of NYC mosque gave to Hamas-linked charity
NEW YORK (AP) - One of the investors in a proposed Islamic center near ground zero is a Long Island medical clinic owner whose expressions of sympathy for Palestinians included a donation to a charity later shut down for links to Hamas.
The developer leading the project confirmed Friday that Hisham Elzanaty, 51, is among the members of a real estate partnership that paid $4.8 million last year for the vacant clothing store that is to be torn down and replaced by a cultural center and mosque.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=2031430
so what jackQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Remember guys, if we don't completely abandon our ideals because there are some butthurt people, then the terrorists will win! They hate us for our freedoms; therefore, we must concede to them by giving away our freedoms! Then the terorrists will no longer be mad at us, and will give us free twinkies.
See, all you liberals always wants facts and figures. Well I just gave you one. 50% of Muslims will later become radical and go on a Jihad. /yoniQuote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
So that means Fox News is linked to terrorism.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
just let people worship. theyre not hurting anybody. the CIA will have this place under the microscope anyways. it won't take them long to spot any shennigans that they might be planning.
they might catch kids running instead of walking around the swimming pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Steamer
Concern Is Voiced Over Religious Intolerance
“This is not America,” said Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick, the emeritus Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington, flanked by three dozen clergy members and religious leaders at a packed news conference at the National Press Club. “America was not built on hate.”
They said they were alarmed that the “anti-Muslim frenzy” and attacks at several mosques had the potential not only to tear apart the country, but also to undermine the reputation of America as a model of religious freedom and diversity.
some groups at the meeting, like the National Council of Churches, an umbrella group representing 100,000 churches, have come out in support of a mosque near the World Trade Center site, said the Rev. Michael Kinnamon, general secretary of the council.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/us...gewanted=print
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Ah, no, THIS IS AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!
The VRWC hate media has won it war to scapegoat every group like illegals, Muslims, etc, like Nazis did to Jews, gays, gypsies in the '30s, excepting the group that is financing the VRWC and mugging America.
The lying hate-mongers at Fox didn't cover this religious tolerance "emergency summit".
The place will now have a place for christians also... whiners happy now?Quote:
Imam: NYC Islamic Center to Include Other Faiths
Published September 08, 2010
NEW YORK – The imam behind the controversial plan to build a mosque and community center near New York's ground zero came out strongly defending the project in an op-ed published Tuesday night on the New York Times website—saying, "Americans must not back away from completion of this project."
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who recently returned from a State Department trip to the Mideast, said the community center will be open to people of all faiths, not just Musilms, and there will be separate prayer spaces for Muslims, Christians and Jews. Responding to concerns about how the project is being financed, he said the developers will "clearly identify all of our financial backers."
"My life's work has been focused on building bridges between religious groups and never has that been as important as it is now," Rauf said.
Critics, however, have said the project is at best insensitive to the families of victims of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, carried out by extremists in the name of Islam. Some have also attacked Rauf for past comments in which he was critical of American foreign policy and seemed reluctant to specifically condemn Hamas.
But Rauf said Tuesday that the attention surrounding the plans for the $100 million community center just blocks from the site of the Sept. 11 attacks "reflects the degree to which people care about the very American values under debate: recognition of the rights of others, tolerance and freedom of worship.”
"The wonderful outpouring of support for our right to build this community center from across the social, religious and political spectrum seriously undermines the ability of anti-American radicals to recruit young, impressionable Muslims by falsely claiming that America persecutes Muslims for their faith," he wrote. "These efforts by radicals at distortion endanger our national security and the personal security of Americans worldwide."
The comments published in the Times were among Rauf's most extensive on the Islamic center since national leaders began weighing in on the debate earlier this year.
For months, the debate has focused on whether the plans for the center would include a mosque just blocks north of where Islamic extremists destroyed the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people on Sept. 11, 2001.
Opponents say the mosque should be moved farther away out of sensitivity for the families of 9/11 victims; supporters say religious freedom should be protected.
For the past two months, Rauf has been traveling abroad, including taking a 15-day trip paid for by the U.S. Department of State to promote religious tolerance in the Middle East. While on the trip, he occasionally spoke about the center, mostly to local Arab media. He returned to the United States on Sunday.
In the op-ed piece, he explained his reasons for not speaking out more and sooner, saying he felt it would "not be right to comment from abroad."
"It would be better if I addressed these issues once I returned home to America, and after I could confer with leaders of other faiths who have been deliberating with us over this project," he wrote.
In the nearly 1,000-word op-ed, he outlined his vision for the center, referring to it as a "shared space" for the community that will include "a multifaith memorial dedicated to victims of the Sept. 11 attacks."
"I am very sensitive to the feelings of the families of victims of 9/11, as are my fellow leaders of many faiths," he wrote.
Rauf is one of the directors of the nonprofit organization that was recently formed to raise money for the divisive lower Manhattan project, sometimes known as Park51. The imam referred to the project as the "Cordoba House" in his op-ed piece.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/07...est=latestnews
http://emsresponder.com/article/phot...BomberVest.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Welcome Christians!
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CosmicCowboy- I consider all Muslims terrorists
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
pictures of suicide bombers with the word christian on the bomb vests.. are hilarious...
:lmao
I guess I don't get your humor..
It's certainly a step in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
our American society as a whole took a step backwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Let me know when you are able to tell the difference between radicalized Muslims and so-called "moderate" Muslims just by looking at them or by listening to what they say. 'kay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
This Imam Rauf is still going to have to demonstrate the sincerity of his intentions before many are going to drop their opposition. In fact, it may be too late for him to change many minds.
I remained unconvinced.
Of course you do.
Shorter Yoni: All Muslims are possible terrorists, therefore, I immediately suspect all Muslims of being terrorists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Similar logic: All white people are possible racists, therefore I immediately suspect all whites of being racists.
After all, you can't tell whether a person is racist just by looking at them or by listening to what they say. Kay?
(Let's throw some DarrinS into this post....)
[DarrinS] Let me know when racist white folks killed 3,000 people [/DarrinS]
Flaw in your logic; I never said the Imam was a terrorist.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Being a radicalized Muslim doesn't make you a terrorist. You can still sympathize with the ideals and intentions of a terrorist without getting your hands dirty.
Shortest yoni: I am an Islamophobe.
My mistake. I guess it should have read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Shorter Yoni: All Muslims are possible terrorist sympathizers, therefore, I immediately suspect all Muslims of being terrorist sympathizers.